dib Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 The German Ardennes offensive kicks off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 The German Ardennes offensive kicks off. Nuts!, as the good Gen. McAullife said... http://www.csamerican.com/Doc.asp?doc=mcauliffe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 The German Ardennes offensive kicks off. Too bad your avatar wasn't there to distract them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 The German Ardennes offensive kicks off. Wacht am Rhein And again...insert my usual complaint about Anglo-centric WWII history here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 The German Ardennes offensive kicks off. I wish the girl in your avatar would raise her right hand and take an oath. THEN we'd have a Battle of the Bulge(s). In typical German fashion, they went too far too fast and outran their re-supply.Terribly costly campaign for the Allies, once it was squelched, we virtually walked into the Fatherland and the European Theater was over in less than 5 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 This isn't really related to this topic much, but it made me think of it. I was watching Paths of Glory yesterday, anybody ever seen it? I thought it was a fantastic movie. I've loved most of Kubrick's works including; Clockwork, 2001, and Dr. Strangelove but I'd have to say this is right up there with those. The movie puts quite a dramatic and anti-war view on WWI, from the walk down the trenches, to the final march towards the shooting squad. There was a lot of emotion and sadness and I thoroughly enjoyed the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 This isn't really related to this topic much, but it made me think of it. I was watching Paths of Glory yesterday, anybody ever seen it? I thought it was a fantastic movie. I've loved most of Kubrick's works including; Clockwork, 2001, and Dr. Strangelove but I'd have to say this is right up there with those. The movie puts quite a dramatic and anti-war view on WWI, from the walk down the trenches, to the final march towards the shooting squad. There was a lot of emotion and sadness and I thoroughly enjoyed the film. Thanks! - I'll look for it. Every now and then, the History Channel (I think) re-broadcasts the Band of Brothers series. A must-see...a very moving story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Wacht am Rhein And again...insert my usual complaint about Anglo-centric WWII history here. I prefer to call it the Belgium defensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 In typical German fashion, they went too far too fast and outran their re-supply.Terribly costly campaign for the Allies, once it was squelched, we virtually walked into the Fatherland and the European Theater was over in less than 5 months. Wow. That's almost completely incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Wow. That's almost completely incorrect. Why do you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Wow. That's almost completely incorrect. From the Battle of the Bulge to V-E day was 3 episodes of Band of Brothers. Refute that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Why do you say that? Because the battle was not fought "in typical German fashion"; they did not go too fast and outrun their resupply; it was not a "terribly costly" campaign for the Allies; and we didn't virtually walk into Germany afterwards. Other than that, the post was spot on - the European campaign ended about five months later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Because the battle was not fought "in typical German fashion"; they did not go too fast and outrun their resupply; it was not a "terribly costly" campaign for the Allies; and we didn't virtually walk into Germany afterwards. Other than that, the post was spot on - the European campaign ended about five months later. Granted, I was a little lean on detail, but the attack was indeed sprung in typical Blitzkrieg fashion, mimicking their intial incursion there in 1940. They needed to reach the Muse (sp) river through the forest in 4 days, in order to turn north and race to the coast, trapping and garnering northern Allies and their supplies/fuel. When weather allowed, Allied air strikes wiped out their southern flank and their lean suppy lines. By the first of January '45, German forces lauched a second attack in the north, primarily to allow the 'Bulge' force to retreat back to Germany, leaving virtually all their armor on the battlefield. They would never again launch an offensive in the west. American casulites approached 100k (20k dead, X4 wounded/missing), by far the worst totals of the entire US war effort. In early Feb, Allied forces began the push into the 'Fatherland' from the east and west, and the European Theater would come to a close in 3.5 months. This is still shy on detail, but accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Granted, I was a little lean on detail, but the attack was indeed sprung in typical Blitzkrieg fashion, mimicking their intial incursion there in 1940. They needed to reach the Muse (sp) river through the forest in 4 days, in order to turn north and race to the coast, trapping and garnering northern Allies and their supplies/fuel. When weather allowed, Allied air strikes wiped out their southern flank and their lean suppy lines. By the first of January '45, German forces lauched a second attack in the north, primarily to allow the 'Bulge' force to retreat back to Germany, leaving virtually all their armor on the battlefield. They would never again launch an offensive in the west. American casulites approached 100k (20k dead, X4 wounded/missing), by far the worst totals of the entire US war effort. In early Feb, Allied forces began the push into the 'Fatherland' from the east and west, and the European Theater would come to a close in 3.5 months. This is still shy on detail, but accurate. No, actually, it's not accurate. Wish I had time to explain it to you, frankly. You go off the tracks at "typical blitzkreig fashion", frankly - of which there's no such concept in the German military lexicon. And even if there was, it still wouldn't be accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 In early Feb, Allied forces began the push into the 'Fatherland' from the east and west, and the European Theater would come to a close in 3.5 months. No, actually, it's not accurate. Wish I had time to explain it to you, frankly. You go off the tracks at "typical blitzkreig fashion", frankly - of which there's no such concept in the German military lexicon. And even if there was, it still wouldn't be accurate. You disa!@#$ingpoint me Tom He set you up for a 3.5 reference but you whiffed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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