todzilla Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 This just shows how messed up college football is, and how little a non title bowl means. The team is 12-0 with a chance to finish #2 in the polls and he just takes off. Why can't they finish the season first. If there was a playoff, he would certainly be staying to try and win the National Title. But this proves every other bowl game is meaningless. I feel sorry for the players who have busted their a$$es all year long.
stuckincincy Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 This just shows how messed up college football is, and how little a non title bowl means. The team is 12-0 with a chance to finish #2 in the polls and he just takes off. Why can't they finish the season first. If there was a playoff, he would certainly be staying to try and win the National Title. But this proves every other bowl game is meaningless. I feel sorry for the players who have busted their a$$es all year long. I wonder if Gill gets a phone call tonight...
Acantha Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 That's a really lame move by Kelly. He's taking over one of the biggest coaching jobs in college and is a year behind in recruiting for this year class. Can't say I blame him deciding he needs to do what's right for his new team. And the original post is right, in the grand scheme of things the bowl game is meaningless.
stuckincincy Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 That's a really lame move by Kelly. Nothing new these days. It's the "All About Me" era. D'Antonio bolted to MSU a few years back, Rodrgiuz whatever stiffed WVU, Petrino lifted a leg on ATL, Saban dogsh*tted the Fins, etc. If you look for ethical behavior, football is a bad place to find it these days. Sad - but that's what it is.
Dr. Fong Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 He's taking over one of the biggest coaching jobs in college and is a year behind in recruiting for this year class. Can't say I blame him deciding he needs to do what's right for his new team. And the original post is right, in the grand scheme of things the bowl game is meaningless. I understand the reasoning behind it. I just think it's not a very honorable way to conduct yourself.
el Tigre Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 That's a really lame move by Kelly. You wouldn't take a better paying,more prestigious position with another company if you were offered?
KD in CA Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 This just shows how messed up college football is, and how little a non title bowl means. The team is 12-0 with a chance to finish #2 in the polls and he just takes off. Why can't they finish the season first. If there was a playoff, he would certainly be staying to try and win the National Title. But this proves every other bowl game is meaningless. I feel sorry for the players who have busted their a$$es all year long. Guess what? ALL the bowl games are meaningless. Even the "Official Championship of the SEC and BIG 12" game being played on March 23d or whatever date they've pushed it out to this year. How can anyone blame the guy? His big motivation is to finish #2? Gee, thanks. Obviously, unless you are Florida, Alabama, LSU, Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio State, USC, Miami or Florida State, the BCS has absolutely no interest in what you may have accomplished on the field. Kelly has a chance to break into that group if he can restore Notre Dame to a national power.
todzilla Posted December 10, 2009 Author Posted December 10, 2009 You wouldn't take a better paying,more prestigious position with another company if you were offered? I don't blame the guy for taking the job (though I think it is a coach killer). It's just a shame that the nature of college football forces the decision to be made now and not when the bowl season is over.
el Tigre Posted December 11, 2009 Posted December 11, 2009 I don't blame the guy for taking the job (though I think it is a coach killer). It's just a shame that the nature of college football forces the decision to be made now and not when the bowl season is over. I hear what you're saying. Maybe a rule could be put in place prohibiting contact untll after the bowls.
DarthICE Posted December 11, 2009 Posted December 11, 2009 It is a chicken **** move by him to leave those boys and those fans high and dry like that. Some can sit there and say it means nothing, but you ask every one of those kids that fought their asses off if this bowl game means nothing. I bet their fans, alumni etal would disagree it means nothing. He is just another pos in today's 'me' society. I hope the bastard falls flat on his face at ND.
Flbillsfan#1 Posted December 11, 2009 Posted December 11, 2009 This just shows how messed up college football is, and how little a non title bowl means. The team is 12-0 with a chance to finish #2 in the polls and he just takes off. Why can't they finish the season first. If there was a playoff, he would certainly be staying to try and win the National Title. But this proves every other bowl game is meaningless. I feel sorry for the players who have busted their a$$es all year long. I will tell you why Kelly is taking off before the bowl game. He doesn't want the embarrassment of his team being CRUSHED by Florida.
SF Bills Fan Posted December 11, 2009 Posted December 11, 2009 This just shows how messed up college football is, and how little a non title bowl means. The team is 12-0 with a chance to finish #2 in the polls and he just takes off. Why can't they finish the season first. If there was a playoff, he would certainly be staying to try and win the National Title. But this proves every other bowl game is meaningless. I feel sorry for the players who have busted their a$$es all year long. I agree completely. Why could they not wait until they completed the season?
Acantha Posted December 11, 2009 Posted December 11, 2009 I agree completely. Why could they not wait until they completed the season? This isn't like the NFL where nothing can really be done until well after the season is over (Free Agency has a specific start date, the draft is a couple months down the line). Coaches started scouting high school kids for this years class 3 years ago, and started actively recruiting them 1-2 years ago. And every single person they recruit is someone that fits the needs of the team (you're not spending a lot of time recruiting the top LB talent when you brought in 8 in the last two years, etc...). Notre Dame is even more difficult due to the stricter academic considerations. Not to mention having to completely figure out everything he can about his new team and all of the recruits that were previously recruited by Weis...does he still want them / do they want to play for him / what has to be done to make it all work out. ND is going to pay him top dollar to turn their program around and every single move he makes is going to fall under the microscope of the college football world. The reports were that he talked to his team in private about what was going to happen, and while I'm sure all of those kids want him on the sideline, I bet they all also want him to succeed in his new job. I'd counter the tantrum above and say, Ask every one of those kids if they hate Kelly because he is going to start a new job, and almost all would say no, they understand.
vincec Posted December 11, 2009 Posted December 11, 2009 It is a chicken **** move by him to leave those boys and those fans high and dry like that. Some can sit there and say it means nothing, but you ask every one of those kids that fought their asses off if this bowl game means nothing. I bet their fans, alumni etal would disagree it means nothing. He is just another pos in today's 'me' society. I hope the bastard falls flat on his face at ND. There are typically two sides to every situation, but you are pretty close to correct here. Kelly owes it to the players he recruited and coached for all of these games to be there for them in the biggest game of their season and, for most of them, their entire football careers. To say anything else shows a lack of understanding as to what being a coach and leader is about. I sure wouldn't send my kids to play for him...
vincec Posted December 11, 2009 Posted December 11, 2009 Here's the reaction from the team: "I don't like it," said Gilyard, the Big East's top receiver and kick returner. "I feel there was a little lying in the thing. I feel like he'd known this the whole time. Everybody knows Notre Dame's got the money. I kind of had a gut feeling he was going to stay just because he told me he was going to be here." and "Just blindsided by the fact that it's a business," Gilyard said. "People lose sight of that. At the end of the day, NCAA football is a business. People have got to make business decisions."
Acantha Posted December 11, 2009 Posted December 11, 2009 Here's the reaction from the team: "I don't like it," said Gilyard, the Big East's top receiver and kick returner. "I feel there was a little lying in the thing. I feel like he'd known this the whole time. Everybody knows Notre Dame's got the money. I kind of had a gut feeling he was going to stay just because he told me he was going to be here." and "Just blindsided by the fact that it's a business," Gilyard said. "People lose sight of that. At the end of the day, NCAA football is a business. People have got to make business decisions." One player is "the team"? And just to put into context, the comments are aimed at Kelly leaving at all.
Dr. Fong Posted December 11, 2009 Posted December 11, 2009 You wouldn't take a better paying,more prestigious position with another company if you were offered? Not if I wasn't finished with my commitment to my current job.
DarthICE Posted December 11, 2009 Posted December 11, 2009 This isn't like the NFL where nothing can really be done until well after the season is over (Free Agency has a specific start date, the draft is a couple months down the line). Coaches started scouting high school kids for this years class 3 years ago, and started actively recruiting them 1-2 years ago. And every single person they recruit is someone that fits the needs of the team (you're not spending a lot of time recruiting the top LB talent when you brought in 8 in the last two years, etc...). Notre Dame is even more difficult due to the stricter academic considerations. Not to mention having to completely figure out everything he can about his new team and all of the recruits that were previously recruited by Weis...does he still want them / do they want to play for him / what has to be done to make it all work out. ND is going to pay him top dollar to turn their program around and every single move he makes is going to fall under the microscope of the college football world. The reports were that he talked to his team in private about what was going to happen, and while I'm sure all of those kids want him on the sideline, I bet they all also want him to succeed in his new job. I'd counter the tantrum above and say, Ask every one of those kids if they hate Kelly because he is going to start a new job, and almost all would say no, they understand. Bull ****. All those kids care about is winning. They came to that university because HE recruited them. They are there mostly because of him. sorry, no they wont' understand and they won't give a **** he is leaving them for the 'blessed' ND.
GaryPinC Posted December 11, 2009 Posted December 11, 2009 Wow, I'm soooooooo shocked uber-genius Mike Leach didn't get the job.
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