Craiger93 Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 If season ended today, the Bills would pick either 7th or 8th. Bills should look into taking: Alabama, MLB McClain (move Poz to OLB or other ILB if moving to 3-4 DEF) or pick one of two OTs (Okung or Trent Williams) if available. Draft QB in later rounds or wait till next year. Sorry, no big "geez whiz's" here. Just trying to get solid talent, if available.
BeastMode54 Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 If season ended today, the Bills would pick either 7th or 8th. Bills should look into taking: Alabama, MLB McClain (move Poz to OLB or other ILB if moving to 3-4 DEF) or pick one of two OTs (Okung or Trent Williams) if available. Draft QB in later rounds or wait till next year. Sorry, no big "geez whiz's" here. Just trying to get solid talent, if available. I'd love to get Okung
bills_red Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Trent Williams sucks, why would you want him?
DDD Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 The Bills should draft offensive tackles with their two top picks. We'd all love a QB but there's no Matt Ryan available this year.
Red Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 If season ended today, the Bills would pick either 7th or 8th. Bills should look into taking: Alabama, MLB McClain (move Poz to OLB or other ILB if moving to 3-4 DEF) or pick one of two OTs (Okung or Trent Williams) if available. Draft QB in later rounds or wait till next year. Sorry, no big "geez whiz's" here. Just trying to get solid talent, if available. No offense bud, but I really hate these 'if the season ended today' posts. The season hasn't ended, it will not be over, and nothing will take place until the actual season IS over. Phew! Now, there are still 4 games to go, and though Detroit most likely will remain a cellar-dweller along with Tampa and St. Louis, Cleveland looked pretty strong playing San Diego and maybe they will finish w/ a better record than us. We have to still play KC, New England, Atlanta and Indy. I see us finishing 5-11, and hopefully that puts us in the top 5. With a top 5 pick, only moving for the DT position with the stud on the board will work. Then, I am for trading back into the later portion of the 1st for a LT. Then, with a 3rd picking Pike from Cincy (if he is available). But all of this talk is garbage. Give the Bills a new GM and pro personnel scouts and coaching staff with some new schemes, and we should hopefully be turning this ship around.
RTW2012 Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Trent Williams sucks, why would you want him? An All-American sucks?
Peter Griffin Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Trent Williams sucks, why would you want him? You're thinking of Trent Edwards
VADC Bills Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Full agreement with Rolando McLain he should be our top pick, whether we go to a 3-4 or not. We need to start drafting players with the potential to be pro bowlers. I would love Suh, Okung or G McCoy. I just don't think they will be at the 7 or 8 spot. The remainder of the picks should bolster our OL and defensive front 7.
Got_Wood Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 The Bills should draft offensive tackles with their two top picks. We'd all love a QB but there's no Matt Ryan available this year. I laugh every time someone claims this is not a good year for drafting a QB. This is THE YEAR to draft a QB. There hasn't been this much QB talent in a draft in a long time. The draft is simply just over analyzed. There are 2 Heisman Trophy winners in Bradford and Tebow (potentially 3 if McCoy wins this year). And Clausen, Locker, Snead, Pike, LeFevour, and Robinson ALL have starting potential. And Mallett may declare as well. That's TEN QB's Buffalo has a shot at. What's the dilemma here? ****, I'd take 2 of them just to increase the potential of us landing a starter.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 I laugh every time someone claims this is not a good year for drafting a QB. This is THE YEAR to draft a QB. There hasn't been this much QB talent in a draft in a long time. The draft is simply just over analyzed. There are 2 Heisman Trophy winners in Bradford and Tebow (potentially 3 if McCoy wins this year). And Clausen, Locker, Snead, Pike, LeFevour, and Robinson ALL have starting potential. And Mallett may declare as well. That's TEN QB's Buffalo has a shot at. What's the dilemma here? ****, I'd take 2 of them just to increase the potential of us landing a starter. From reading a lot about this year's QB class, it seems there's a lot of quantity...but not necessarily the quality. We'll see.
tecmobowlbills Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 some of the top teams in the draft will be going QB...St. Louis and Washington most likely. Hopefully a stud drops to us but knowing the bills they will win just enough games to stay out of the premium portion of the draft
bills_red Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 An All-American sucks? Have you seen him play LT this year? He blows, he is a RT and a avg. one at that.
Red Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 I laugh every time someone claims this is not a good year for drafting a QB. This is THE YEAR to draft a QB. There hasn't been this much QB talent in a draft in a long time. The draft is simply just over analyzed. There are 2 Heisman Trophy winners in Bradford and Tebow (potentially 3 if McCoy wins this year). And Clausen, Locker, Snead, Pike, LeFevour, and Robinson ALL have starting potential. And Mallett may declare as well. That's TEN QB's Buffalo has a shot at. What's the dilemma here? ****, I'd take 2 of them just to increase the potential of us landing a starter. I hate any and all talk about QB's being a "sure thing" coming out of college. How many teams passed on Joe Montana? What round was he drafted in? What about Tom Brady? How many QB's were drafted in the Elway, Kelly, Marino '83 class? How many made a difference for their clubs? How many ever made a Pro-Bowl? Rick Mirer? Todd Marinovich? Akili Smith? Jeff George? For every Eli Manning, there are 4 Ryan Leaf's. Or Kyle Bollers. Or Alex Smith. Or JP Losman. You can blame it on coaching, the much different speed of the game from college, a bad offensive line, whatever. I agree with most that the QB position is the hardest position to play in professional sports. But as anyone who knows anything about scouting football players will tell you, its a crap shoot.
Got_Wood Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 I hate any and all talk about QB's being a "sure thing" coming out of college. How many teams passed on Joe Montana? What round was he drafted in? What about Tom Brady? How many QB's were drafted in the Elway, Kelly, Marino '83 class? How many made a difference for their clubs? How many ever made a Pro-Bowl? Rick Mirer? Todd Marinovich? Akili Smith? Jeff George? For every Eli Manning, there are 4 Ryan Leaf's. Or Kyle Bollers. Or Alex Smith. Or JP Losman. You can blame it on coaching, the much different speed of the game from college, a bad offensive line, whatever. I agree with most that the QB position is the hardest position to play in professional sports. But as anyone who knows anything about scouting football players will tell you, its a crap shoot. Nowhere in there did I say these guys were a sure thing. But, there is a better chance of landing a talented QB when there are more talented players to choose from. While I agree that maybe 80% of these guys will end up not making it, I think the Bills need to take that 20% chance of landing the next franchise guy. We'll have a top 10 pick. We need to snag a star player in that bunch. There are no guarantees, but that doesn't mean you don't try.
Red Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Nowhere in there did I say these guys were a sure thing. But, there is a better chance of landing a talented QB when there are more talented players to choose from. While I agree that maybe 80% of these guys will end up not making it, I think the Bills need to take that 20% chance of landing the next franchise guy. We'll have a top 10 pick. We need to snag a star player in that bunch. There are no guarantees, but that doesn't mean you don't try. Well, I am not implying that you said that- I only mean to state that every year every Mel Kiper rants and raves about this QB and that QB, when in reality and after it is all over the pro scouts themselves will admit that there is no formula. I know Polian states that you start with a franchise QB and build from there. But I do not feel confident AT ALL with our current front office making any decisions on drafting anyone. I want to see Modrak and Guy fired, and real personnel people hired. I love the Buddy Nix hire, and hope he gets a bigger say in the drafts. If we hired a Bill Parcells (let me dream!), I would have complete faith in what was being done. But with this front office in place, if nothing changes, then the lines (both offensive and defensive) are in serious need of repair and thus more important than taking another chance on a high round "golden" boy.
CountDorkula Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 I laugh every time someone claims this is not a good year for drafting a QB. This is THE YEAR to draft a QB. There hasn't been this much QB talent in a draft in a long time. The draft is simply just over analyzed. There are 2 Heisman Trophy winners in Bradford and Tebow (potentially 3 if McCoy wins this year). And Clausen, Locker, Snead, Pike, LeFevour, and Robinson ALL have starting potential. And Mallett may declare as well. That's TEN QB's Buffalo has a shot at. What's the dilemma here? ****, I'd take 2 of them just to increase the potential of us landing a starter. +1 Agree completely. Plus probably 3 of the 4 best QB's playing right now (Brees, Favre, Brady) were all first round... Oh my bad that was JP Losman. Point is ya never know.
bills2683 Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 I love the idea of drafting Rolando McClain but if we were picking today at 7 or 8 thats a little too high I think. We should trade out of the top ten and pick up another pick or two and land McClain in the middle of the first round. We need all of the help we can get so I am all for trading out of the top 10 to add additional picks. We just cant reach and take another project player, we need instant impact and McClain would give us that. Also with the qb class being so deep we could take one with our early second or trade back in to the first and grab one. Lets face it though, there are so many holes on this team one pick will not get us to the playoffs. We must be a big spender in free agency but be smart with who we choose to sign. The offensive line should be fixed via free agency because another rookie tackle will only just add to the inexperienced line we have. And it all starts from the top, we need a coach and a gm.
Got_Wood Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 I know Polian states that you start with a franchise QB and build from there. But I do not feel confident AT ALL with our current front office making any decisions on drafting anyone. I want to see Modrak and Guy fired, and real personnel people hired. I love the Buddy Nix hire, and hope he gets a bigger say in the drafts. If we hired a Bill Parcells (let me dream!), I would have complete faith in what was being done. But with this front office in place, if nothing changes, then the lines (both offensive and defensive) are in serious need of repair and thus more important than taking another chance on a high round "golden" boy. Couldn't agree with you more. These guys have no vision for this team. They're just throwing darts every year and hoping. It most definitely starts with a new front office and coaching staff. We can't get anywhere without a big improvement on top.
Thoner7 Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 An All-American sucks? Yes, he does. He is not an NFL LT. He moves his feet like they are concrete blocks. He couldnt beat out Loadholt at LT - an NFL RT - during his career. He is more of a Duke Robinson.. ie big time college name, 5th round NFL pick and career backup. And aside from make the2nd Freshman All-America team in 2006, he is NOT an AA. Brian Baluga is a 10x better pro tackle anyways. I hope he declares, he has Buffalo written all over him, and Okung will be gone.
Thoner7 Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 I laugh every time someone claims this is not a good year for drafting a QB. This is THE YEAR to draft a QB. There hasn't been this much QB talent in a draft in a long time. The draft is simply just over analyzed. There are 2 Heisman Trophy winners in Bradford and Tebow (potentially 3 if McCoy wins this year). And Clausen, Locker, Snead, Pike, LeFevour, and Robinson ALL have starting potential. And Mallett may declare as well. That's TEN QB's Buffalo has a shot at. What's the dilemma here? ****, I'd take 2 of them just to increase the potential of us landing a starter. Guys you named with zero chance of NFL success: LeFevour Robinson Guys you named with many obstacles to overcome to achieve NFL success: Snead McCoy Tebow Pike Others who may not declare: Locker Mallet QBs gone by the time Bufalo Picks Clausen Locker (maybe depending on how season pans out) Not so good anymore eh?
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