The Senator Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 I was watching the Miami-NE* game but tuned into the Eagles Falcons game during breaks wanting to see how our Pro Bowl LT was performing for the Eagles, but couldn't spot him on the field at all. Could he have already left for Hawaii?
Astrojanitor Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 I was watching the Miami-NE* game but tuned into the Eagles Falcons game during breaks wanting to see how our Pro Bowl LT was performing for the Eagles, but couldn't spot him on the field at all. Could he have already left for Hawaii? He did have that nasty habit of making the Pro Bowl and then taking the rest of the season off....
The Senator Posted December 7, 2009 Author Posted December 7, 2009 He did have that nasty habit of making the Pro Bowl and then taking the rest of the season off.... Yeah he did - this year, I guess he's taking the whole season off!
Cynical Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 I was watching the Miami-NE* game but tuned into the Eagles Falcons game during breaks wanting to see how our Pro Bowl LT was performing for the Eagles, but couldn't spot him on the field at all. Could he have already left for Hawaii? The Bills have a Pro Bowl LT? That's good to know. I was getting worried the POS scrubs that are/were playing for the Bills this year was all they had.
BADOLBILZ Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 I was watching the Miami-NE* game but tuned into the Eagles Falcons game during breaks wanting to see how our Pro Bowl LT was performing for the Eagles, but couldn't spot him on the field at all. Could he have already left for Hawaii? Yeah, remind us again how this organization can't keep it's good players. Like we don't already know. Pat Williams is playing like sh*t tonight. Where is Antoine? Clements? Who needs him. We can got 4-12 without em'. Maybe even 5-11! Good to see you are supportive of management though.
BillsVet Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 Yeah, remind us again how this organization can't keep it's good players. Like we don't already know. Pat Williams is playing like sh*t tonight. Where is Antoine? Clements? Who needs him. We can got 4-12 without em'. Maybe even 5-11! Good to see you are supportive of management though. He's been on the (EDIT: anti)-Peters crusade for a long time now. Reminds me of the two guys in Animal House who are talking while Belushi is ranting about when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor: "Forget it he's rolling."
Leonidas Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 Yeah, remind us again how this organization can't keep it's good players. Like we don't already know. Pat Williams is playing like sh*t tonight. Where is Antoine? Clements? Who needs him. We can got 4-12 without em'. Maybe even 5-11! Good to see you are supportive of management though. Winfield and Clements weren't the issue. And Clements still isn't worth the 8-year/$80M contract he got. Not even close. One doesn't have to blindly pledge allegiance to the front office to see that Peters wasn't worth what he was demanding. He's missed how many games? Given up how many sacks? Taken how many penalties? Yeah. Best tackle in the league? What a complete joke.
Cynical Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 Winfield and Clements weren't the issue. And Clements still isn't worth the 8-year/$80M contract he got. Not even close. One doesn't have to blindly pledge allegiance to the front office to see that Peters wasn't worth what he was demanding. He's missed how many games? Given up how many sacks? Taken how many penalties? Yeah. Best tackle in the league? What a complete joke. No, what's a complete joke is what the Bills FO decided they could replace him with. That overrated player is still much better than the POS scrubs the Bills tried at LT.
Ray Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 So you wanted management to pay Clements a top maybe 25 CB 10M per year? That is not money well spent. Peters was not going play here for the 7-8M they offered him per year and was not good last year and would have held out again and not played well. He is often injured and certainly if this year is any indication will NOT play up to his contract. The biggest mistake was letting Pat Williams go and that was Donahoe....for basically not wanting to pay him...the Vikings ended up paying him a little less than 1M a year more than the Bills offer. He is still playing at a great level and this defense over the last decade could have been much better with a guy like him consistently in there. Front office made some mistakes but if you think Peters and Clements are playing anywhere near the level of their contract that just is not true.
Wilson from Gamehendge Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 I was watching the Miami-NE* game but tuned into the Eagles Falcons game during breaks wanting to see how our Pro Bowl LT was performing for the Eagles, but couldn't spot him on the field at all. Could he have already left for Hawaii? Drop it already...bottom line is WE WOULD BE BETTER WITH HIM THAN WITHOUT HIM! Get a !@#$ing clue and drop the Mike Leach for Bills HC bull ****.
Big Turk Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 Yeah, remind us again how this organization can't keep it's good players. Like we don't already know. Pat Williams is playing like sh*t tonight. Where is Antoine? Clements? Who needs him. We can got 4-12 without em'. Maybe even 5-11! Good to see you are supportive of management though. Clements got benched...finally someone noticed his few interceptions don't make up for his crappy run defense or all the chances he takes and gets burned on...
Ray Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 Yes Peters is better than any of the other guys who have tried to play LT for the Bills thise year....the problem is the team would be in the same position. Out of the playoffs with bad line play and a bad QB. Plus, every year for the next two years you would have to deal with a disgruntled LT wondering if he was going to play. I'll take Wood and Nelson for Peters and hopefully in the next year or two a decent LT.
PushthePile Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 No, what's a complete joke is what the Bills FO decided they could replace him with.That overrated player is still much better than the POS scrubs the Bills tried at LT. Kyle Williams is better than Spencer Johnson and John Mcargo but I wouldn't make him the top paid DT in the league. Jason Peters played is cards well enough to get a fat payday and I can't fault him for that. In his business he'd be stupid not to chase the big dollars while he can. Even with our current state of the o-line, I'm gald we didn't give Peters his payday. His play just doesn't justify it. I'm happy enough with our compensation. IMO, the only real loser will prove to be the Eagles.
The Senator Posted December 7, 2009 Author Posted December 7, 2009 Drop it already...bottom line is WE WOULD BE BETTER WITH HIM THAN WITHOUT HIM! Get a !@#$ing clue and drop the Mike Leach for Bills HC bull ****. Get a !@#$ing clue yourself, moron - yeah sure, we'd be better paying some lazy fat clown $60M to sit on the bench. Here's another clue, mensa boy - you don't like what I post, try using the 'ignore' feature.
Doc Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 Looks like he's becoming as injury-prone as some people predicted he'd be. Like I said, Jonas Jennings part deux.
The Senator Posted December 7, 2009 Author Posted December 7, 2009 Looks like he's becoming as injury-prone as some people predicted he'd be. Like I said, Jonas Jennings part deux. Hey, guy's got himself a nice $60M gig as a bench-warmer - just like many of us predicted.
Doc Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 Hey, guy's got himself a nice $60M gig as a bench-warmer - just like many of us predicted. True. He's laughing all the way to the bank (with a stop at a buffet table first).
The Senator Posted December 7, 2009 Author Posted December 7, 2009 True. He's laughing all the way to the bank (with a stop at a buffet table first). Isn't that how he got the original hamstring 'tweak' in training camp - running from his dorm room to the breakfast table?
Thurman#1 Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 Winfield and Clements weren't the issue. And Clements still isn't worth the 8-year/$80M contract he got. Not even close. One doesn't have to blindly pledge allegiance to the front office to see that Peters wasn't worth what he was demanding. He's missed how many games? Given up how many sacks? Taken how many penalties? Yeah. Best tackle in the league? What a complete joke. Yeah, he is one of the best in the league. If he continues to miss games at this rate over the next few years then he won't have been. But he was playing sensationally this year before the injury. And he doesn't have much of a history of injuries before this year. Haters would have you believe that he did, but the facts are that in five years with the Bills, he missed four games. That is very good. You just look at profootballfocus.com and you see that right up until the injury he was the second-highest ranked tackle in the league. He has been hobbled since then and attempted to play through it, and as such hasn't performed well. So badly that he's the #13 ranked tackle in the league, including all right and left tackles. He's an elite tackle and deserves to be paid like one. If he continues to be injured at this rate, this will have been a bad deal for the Eagles, but if you want to say tha the sucks for being injured as little as he has been for his career, that would mean that, what ... 75% of the Bills suck for the same reason. Go here: http://profootballfocus.com/by_player.php?...p;playerid=2148 You can see that he had a sensational start to the season, tailed off with the injury, and has started to improve again as he got healthier. He had a head (and shoulder) injury in this game, and they're being very careful with those these days, but Peters has already pledged to be back next week. He's an elite player. Elite players get elite money. And the money goes up an ungodly amount each year as the TV dollars go up. This is the way things are in the NFL. Blaming Peters for it is idiotic. He wanted market value. He got it. And he's playing up to the salary, playing through injury, having a very good season though he's missed a bit of time. Get used to seeing "pro bowl" before his name. You are likely to be seeing it for years and years to come.
Doc Posted December 7, 2009 Posted December 7, 2009 Peters only missed 3 games in the previous 2 seasons because his injuries happened towards the end of the season. And the injuries were bad enough to force him miss the Pro Bowl (you know, what he plays the game to get to?). Had the Bills (somehow) made the playoffs either of those years, Peters wouldn't have been able to play. And getting injured and playing poorly is all part of the package. You can't separate them out.
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