Lt. Dan's Revenge Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 LINK 14 votes is a pretty wide margain. Much wider than expected, as many were saying it would come down to less than a handful of votes. Thoughts?
Gene Frenkle Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 good. Well, duh. The more the government tells us what we can and cannot do the better.
Alaska_Darin_Is_Gay Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Well, duh. The more the government tells us what we can and cannot do the better. No, this is about creating new rights that are not in The Constitution.
Alaska Darin Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 No, this is about creating new rights that are not in The Constitution. You mean because States don't have the right to create rights not in the Constitution? Way to know WTF you're talking about.
Alaska_Darin_Is_Gay Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 You mean because States don't have the right to create rights not in the Constitution? Way to know WTF you're talking about. New York state has a constitution as well.
Alaska Darin Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 New York state has a constitution as well. And what rights guaranteed by NYS Constitution would this particular LAW be changing?
Alaska_Darin_Is_Gay Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 And what rights guaranteed by NYS Constitution would this particular LAW be changing? It would be creating a new right not granted by the state constitution. http://www.dos.state.ny.us/info/constitution.htm
DC Tom Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 No, this is about creating new rights that are not in The Constitution. Have you ever read the Constitution or Bill of Rights? They don't grant the population rights, they restrict the government's ability to take them away. This is normally the point when I'd call you a moron, but it's just too damned self-evident in this case to be worth the effort.
Alaska_Darin_Is_Gay Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Have you ever read the Constitution or Bill of Rights? They don't grant the population rights, they restrict the government's ability to take them away. This is normally the point when I'd call you a moron, but it's just too damned self-evident in this case to be worth the effort. This isn't the goverment taking away rights its refusing to grant special rights to a small minority. You clearly don't understand the Constitution.
Gene Frenkle Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 This isn't the goverment taking away rights its refusing to grant special rights to a small minority. You clearly don't understand the Constitution. I wonder if you show me where the Constitution specifically grants a man the right to marry a woman?
Alaska Darin Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 It would be creating a new right not granted by the state constitution. http://www.dos.state.ny.us/info/constitution.htm Where's the right to marriage in the NYS Constitution?
DC Tom Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 This isn't the goverment taking away rights its refusing to grant special rights to a small minority. You clearly don't understand the Constitution. Okay then, you pea-brain, why don't you, in your apparently boundless Constitutional wisdom, explain to me exactly where in the Constitution of the United States or New York State it prohibits the granting of rights to minorities.
Alaska_Darin_Is_Gay Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Where's the right to marriage in the NYS Constitution? Marriage isn't a right. Liberals are trying to make it into a right for gays.
Gene Frenkle Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 I wonder if you show me where the Constitution specifically grants a man the right to marry a woman? Where's the right to marriage in the NYS Constitution? Not too sure how I feel about this. I may need to unplug for a while.
Gene Frenkle Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Marriage isn't a right. Liberals are trying to make it into a right for gays. Holy Fckuing Schitt
Alaska_Darin_Is_Gay Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Okay then, you pea-brain, why don't you, in your apparently boundless Constitutional wisdom, explain to me exactly where in the Constitution of the United States or New York State it prohibits the granting of rights to minorities. Ever hear of the Equal Protection Clause?
DC Tom Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Not too sure how I feel about this. I may need to unplug for a while. Hey, when unholy stupidity rears it's ugly head, even the normally disagreable can agree.
Alaska Darin Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Not too sure how I feel about this. I may need to unplug for a while. You finally being sensible about something doesn't change my world.
DC Tom Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Ever hear of the Equal Protection Clause? I think the better question is: have YOU ever heard of the Equal Protection Clause? Because an amendment to the Constitution that states "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; [...]; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." isn't exactly proving your point.
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