CJPearl2 Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 I know he isn't the Bledsoe we remember from the mid to late 90s ...but what is the true value of Drew? Financially, this trade was positive for TD and RW. Look at the jersey sales, the national attention and most importantly the SELL-OUTS. How many sell-outs have we had the past 3 years with Drew? Everyone but 2 or 3, right? Even though he has underachieved, he has made the franchise worth more, and maybe more stable to stay in WNY. Just some thoughts.
ICE Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 I know he isn't the Bledsoe we remember from the mid to late 90s ...but what is the true value of Drew? Financially, this trade was positive for TD and RW. Look at the jersey sales, the national attention and most importantly the SELL-OUTS. How many sell-outs have we had the past 3 years with Drew? Everyone but 2 or 3, right? Even though he has underachieved, he has made the franchise worth more, and maybe more stable to stay in WNY. Just some thoughts. 123502[/snapback] Can we stop the 'stay in NY' bull stevestojan? If they stay they stay, if they go they go. RW keeps putting stevestojan on the field...he can take the sombitch and move it for all I care. He is starting to find out fans are growing old of his bull stevestojan.
Movinon Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Can we stop the 'stay in NY' bull stevestojan? If they stay they stay, if they go they go. RW keeps putting stevestojan on the field...he can take the sombitch and move it for all I care. He is starting to find out fans are growing old of his bull stevestojan. 123544[/snapback] Which would explain Sunday's sellout.
John in VA Beach Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Whether or not the trades have worked out, no one can say the front office is not trying to get good players in Buffalo. The problem in my opinion is that they do not do a good job of evaluating how the name players we have will create a winning chemistry. To me that is Donahoes major shortcoming.
PromoTheRobot Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Which would explain Sunday's sellout. 123550[/snapback] Bills game sells out, Home Depot has run out of tar, and Wal-Mart sold out of feather pillows. Could there be a connection? PTR
CJPearl2 Posted November 18, 2004 Author Posted November 18, 2004 Im not talking so much about staying in NY - but we have to realize that there is more to player acquisitions than wins and loses (although I do not agree - I want my team to win! Period.).
Movinon Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Bills game sells out, Home Depot has run out of tar, and Wal-Mart sold out of feather pillows. Could there be a connection? PTR 123560[/snapback] It’s a conspiracy I tell ya.
John in VA Beach Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 I think Drews trade value is lower now than when the Bills and Cincy were the only teams interested in him a few years ago (I know price tag was an issue then, but today it is a skills issue)
Guest Guest_rolly_* Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Can we stop the 'stay in NY' bull stevestojan? If they stay they stay, if they go they go. RW keeps putting stevestojan on the field...he can take the sombitch and move it for all I care. He is starting to find out fans are growing old of his bull stevestojan. 123544[/snapback] You don't realize what you have until it's gone.
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 My summary of the Drew trade: On field for the Bills- Big gain the first year as getting Drew coincided with and play a large role in moving the team from 3-13 with an impotent offense and a D that could play 3/4 of a game well max in 2001 to 8-8 with Bledsoe setting many team passing records and playing QB for a O with a Pro Bowl reserve nod for him (deserved in my view if not who do you suggest was a better performer), a Pro Bowl berth for WR Moulds. a Pro Bowl appearance for RB Henry and a big FA deal for PP who got 94 receptions initiated by Bledsoe. Our D was an even worse performer that year as startting LB acqusition Robinson and rookie Wire filling in for Jenkins were not up to the game to be starters. In addition, though they kept the right QB in Brady, trading Bledsoe argualy cost this team even making the playoffs as they absorbed an accelerated cap hit in this season bookended by two SB wins. However, the trade proved to be a wash for both the Pats and the Bills as the on-field results the next year saw the Bills do a complete 180 in production and Bledsoe's poor play was a lead in the offensive meltdown and the Pats won an SN with Brady playing a leading role and FA acquisitions like Harrison being a key for them once they got past the Bledsoe cap acceleration hit. As the Pats had a wash in results but were and are on an upswing with the trade and the Bills finished on the downswing in production linked to the trade I think it is legitimate in this what have you done for me lately league to jusdgw this wash in terms of onfield results as favoring the Pats (though I think calling this the Pats raping the Bills ignores both the Pats missing the playoffs in 2002 due I believe to the cap impacts forced on them by correctly trading Bledsoe. Off-field impacts- These are impossible to state with certainty, but no one can credibly deny that moving from RJ/AVP to Bledsoe as starter coincided with huge financial gains for the Bills that almost certainly were linked to excitment caused by the Bledsoe acqusition. Objective evidence from the spike in ticket sales right after his signing, to the bid turnout for the welcome Drew event to an ongoing record of sales of luzury boxes and consecutive home sellouts almost certainly were stringly influenced by how Bledsoe could be sold regardless of his production, The deal is a wash with a bad trend for the Bills at the end of two years on the field but the off-field business spike which coincided with Bledsoe's presecense make this deal a winner for the team. The real GM mistakes were: 1. Not quitting while we were ahead and saying goodbye to Bledsoe this past off-season. 2. Once you decide to resign him then you have to have a credible plan B if he proves to be beyond rehabilitation. Travis Brown was never that and TD screwed up by not having a plan B at QB.
Albany,n.y. Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 My summary of the Drew trade: The real GM mistakes were: 1. Not quitting while we were ahead and saying goodbye to Bledsoe this past off-season. 2. Once you decide to resign him then you have to have a credible plan B if he proves to be beyond rehabilitation. Travis Brown was never that and TD screwed up by not having a plan B at QB. 123611[/snapback] I totally agree with 1, it would have cost us $0 against the cap. TD had a plan B. If Bledsoe was all done, the season was shot anyway. Plan B was to have JP in by midseason if Drew was done-plan B didn't account for Troy Vincent breaking JP's leg in camp.
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