Thailog80 Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Race is the big issue. To infer racism where there is none is as bad as being racist. I didnt care that TO is black that made no difference. The Peyton Manning crack is a croc....honestly do you think manning would've done that skit?
Alaska Darin Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Race is the big issue.The Peyton manning crack is a croc....honestly do you think manning would've done that skit? 123497[/snapback] No. Derek Jeter wouldn't have either.
Thailog80 Posted November 18, 2004 Author Posted November 18, 2004 No. Derek Jeter wouldn't have either. 123500[/snapback] Et Tu Dickface?
ch19079 Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 the cheerleaders showed more skin than the "white blond" did. if you find that offensive, than you have the problem not me.
1billsfan Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Race is the big issue. To infer racism where there is none is as bad as being racist. I didnt care that TO is black that made no difference. The Peyton Manning crack is a croc....honestly do you think manning would've done that skit? 123497[/snapback] Eva Langoria is black?????
Cutting Drew With Dignity Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Race is the big issue.The Peyton Manning crack is a croc....honestly do you think manning would've done that skit? 123497[/snapback] A bit differently. He would have rubbed his bare ass and sack on that hag.
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Race is the big issue. To infer racism where there is none is as bad as being racist. I didnt care that TO is black that made no difference. The Peyton Manning crack is a croc....honestly do you think manning would've done that skit? 123497[/snapback] I think that the mistake here is the one that the article and you in this post make that seems to believe that EVERYONE is being motivated here by the same thing. Even if anyone wants to insist that there is only one right way of looking at an issue and all other ways are completely wrong (last I saw, outside of my wife there are no perfect people in this world who are right about everything). Was race the major driver in all the folks who were dismayed by this ad or lodged complaints with the NFL, ABC or FCC. No. A good number of folks as best I can tell were motivated by seeing sex depicted on TV in the family hour (why this surprised some folks I don't know given the language used and scenes shown or implied in the family hour on popular shows such as Friends). A good number of folks also were surprised to see such a depiction in conjunction with a "wholesome" show like the NFL which they watch with their kids (again why this surprised some folks I don;t know as the wholesome NFL routinely sells sex, has scantily clad cheerleaders all over the place, has mikes which routinely pick up foul language in normal use. Racw played little or no factor in why many folks were offended by this even if I wasn't. However, in our society we have not yet overcome the issue of prejudice and racially based thinking by some folks, The existence of these views and the advocay of pre-judgment of people regardless of an assessment of their character and based mostly or soley on the color of their skin still exists. I would be surpised if some of the complaints were not motivated by the same type of thinking which resulted in a black man being dragged to death chained to a truck and other virulent racist acts which still unfortunately occur in our society. The issue of race raised touches on an extreme case of sexual interaction will be one of the last vestiges of prejudice to fall and touches upon other issues of gender bias and assumed ownership which still plague society (in my view). I do not think that race is an issue at all for me here because the main take I got from watching this ad was to doubt its message that good football is more important to many people than sex, even on Monday night. However, I know that not everyone thinks like I do and I think a lot of people were offended by this when I wasn't and some of those who were offended were put off by the racial interaction. I do not feel that those who were offended by this because it was a depiction of sex during the family hour in a football broadcast were wrong even though I disagree with them. I do feel that (I hope few) folks who were offended by this because of race are in fact wrong, but thankfully there are few enough of these people and they are not in charge that mostly I feel sad for them and their troubled view of the world,
SilverNRed Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Race is the big issue. To infer racism where there is none is as bad as being racist. I didnt care that TO is black that made no difference. The Peyton Manning crack is a croc....honestly do you think manning would've done that skit? 123497[/snapback] So did they actually pay this guy to write this garbage? I mean, you knew it was coming, just like the race card has to be brought up by somebody every time a black athlete is involved in something (Kobe, the USA Men's Basketball team being jeered by Americans, etc.) - but COME ON! *sigh* I think the real source of the outrage was that MNF was showing soft core porn at 6pm on the West Coast. And MNF is a show that fathers watch with their sons so the whole thing was just inappropriate. ABC found the wrong place to promote their show (wrong audience to advertise to, also) and the wrong time. That's it. This isn't about the subconscious of Americans (which sportswriters somehow have special insight into in these situations).
BuffOrange Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 I can see the ABC exec's sitting around in a room: "We need a star player on one of these teams to promote this show. What do you think?" "How about Chad Lewis or Vinny T?" "No - they're white - we have to make the black athlete look bad". "OK - we'll settle for Terrel Owens". Good take - it makes a lot of sense.
Corp000085 Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 How does race even play a part in it?? The only thing that was racist was tony dungy basically coming out and saying that he disapproves of interracial sexual relationships. OTher than that, nothing racial. Racy, yes. Racial, no. I think that people complain about moral issues just to hear themselves complain. One of the articles also states that bill parcells or andy reid wouldn't do that skit with the naked girl. Well, its not cause they're not black. Its cause they're old and fat. Racial that!
ICE Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Ok help me out here...ABC has the highest rated show currently on TV. They use this theme as an intro to MNF. They target the Most visible player in the NFL (Owens) who is on one of the teams that is playing that night. WTF is the problem? 'Quick....someone call Al Sharpton...ABC has some white chick jumping into TO's arms...NAKED' Uh....Like that hasn't happened before?
ICE Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 How does race even play a part in it?? The only thing that was racist was tony dungy basically coming out and saying that he disapproves of interracial sexual relationships. OTher than that, nothing racial. Racy, yes. Racial, no. I think that people complain about moral issues just to hear themselves complain. One of the articles also states that bill parcells or andy reid wouldn't do that skit with the naked girl. Well, its not cause they're not black. Its cause they're old and fat. Racial that! 123622[/snapback] Tony dungy needs to shut the fugg up and learn how to field a defense in INDY.
sweet baboo Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nf...ungy-reax_x.htm Dungy weighs in... I hope the Steelers or *gasp* the Patriots kick their !@#$ing asses out of the playoffs now for that crap
R. Rich Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 I hear ya, Coach Dungy. That interracial stuff is just wrong, man. Wrong.
GG Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 I hear ya, Coach Dungy. That interracial stuff is just wrong, man. Wrong. 123653[/snapback] Especially with a blonde.
Corp000085 Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Especially with a blonde. an old one at that.
aussiew Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 an old one at that.Hey watch it bud! You have something against old blondes?
R. Rich Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Hey watch it bud! You have something against old blondes? 123676[/snapback] We like you in spite of those factors, aussie.
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