JP-era Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Even talented players with talented coaches can lose with a losers mentality. Vincent admitted that the Bills do in fact have a losers mentality at this point. "We're just not used to winning much. That's what I've seen," Vincent said. It has been my biggest bone of contention with this squad. We havent had a hard-lined tough minded coach...umm...ever. And we havent had a QB with a winners mentality since Kelly. Losman may have very well of been the best QB for THIS team based on his attitude alone. WE desperatley need a QB and head coach who will kick these players in the ass when they need to step up and play like champions. I still believe that this teams biggest problem is that they dont maintain the attitude of winners who know how to ensure that they win. Again, thank god for Losman, lets get his experince to the level where his attitude is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest_JLK64_* Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Chuck Knox and Lou Saban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Chuck Knox and Lou Saban 123507[/snapback] Ground Chuck was the man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Lou Saban was a master motivator. He was sometimes a loose cannon, but he could always get his squad motivated to get their jobs done. Sometimes that mean't on-field improvisation. Saban was best when he had smart, if not the most talented players on his team. It is just unfortunate that his own demeanor dictated that he pi$$ off management and go away mad. He had passion that Bills fans have never again seen. Chuck Knox was a strict disiplinarian. It was, like Coughlin, his way or the highway. He didn't win because of motivational skills, but rather by insisting on perfection in players technique and assignments. He got his wins by getting the most from his players performing as a system on a team. Likely a style that can't win today with the egos of modern players. Either way, it is highly unlikely that we will ever have a coach like either of them in Bflo again, because the game has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 We don't have the lines in the trenches to win games for us anymore. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB2004 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Even talented players with talented coaches can lose with a losers mentality. Vincent admitted that the Bills do in fact have a losers mentality at this point. "We're just not used to winning much. That's what I've seen," Vincent said. It has been my biggest bone of contention with this squad. We havent had a hard-lined tough minded coach...umm...ever. And we havent had a QB with a winners mentality since Kelly. Losman may have very well of been the best QB for THIS team based on his attitude alone. WE desperatley need a QB and head coach who will kick these players in the ass when they need to step up and play like champions. I still believe that this teams biggest problem is that they dont maintain the attitude of winners who know how to ensure that they win. Again, thank god for Losman, lets get his experince to the level where his attitude is! 123461[/snapback] Wow that's two veteran players voicing their opinions about the team today (Moulds being the other). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 I'll take moulds words more seriousily than troy vincent at least moulds busts his ass every week for this teem, all troy vincent has done is milk 2 million dollars sitting on the damn sidelines. I was all over the troy vincent signing at the time, thinking what a great signing it was. However now all I see is a guy milking an injury. I have no doubt he's injured, but he doesn't seem to be trying, and if Troy Vincent is the new face of "leadership" of the Buffalo Bills, than we're in trouble, and need to bring in new veteran leadership. Guys who want to play, and try to come back from injuries and inspire their teammates, instead of miling cash. I wouldn't be suprised to see Vincent retire, and I wouldn't be against him doing so one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Troy Vincent's knee sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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