LaDairis Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 How bout we just live a more Earth-friendly life regardless of what science tells us about the state of the global climate? This is just unreal. You are attempting to deflect the issue. The issue is whether or not Global Warming is an organized FRAUD and always was one. If Global Warming is a complete farce, and the planet is not warming, then Global Warming is the greatest crime against the environment in the history of the human species. The FRAUD intentionally misdiagnoses real environmental problems and then scams the taxpayer for the money that would/should pay for the solution. Take the fires in CA. The warmest surface reading for the US was 1934, so nothing on the ground of the US is being caused by "warming" because there hasn't been any warming. Rather, CA fires get worse and worse because every additional human in CA takes that much fresh water from wildlife and plants, making the plant life DRY. The solution is DESAL, but we haven't done that, because The FRAUD intentionally misdiagnoses the real issue and blames its phony "warming" it knows isn't happening. Al Gore goes on TV and everyone praises him for the intentional misdiagnosis, and you bow your little birdbrain in support. Global non-Warming is an intentional FRAUD, a crime against the real environment. Anyone and everyone who supports The FRAUD of Global non-Warming is, in essence, cheering the fires in CA and lying to keep more coming, because that is how they enrich and empower themselves. The victims are the US taxpayer and the real environment. The real environment's #1 enemy is The FRAUD of Global non-Warming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 This is just unreal. You are attempting to deflect the issue. The issue is whether or not Global Warming is an organized FRAUD and always was one. If Global Warming is a complete farce, and the planet is not warming, then Global Warming is the greatest crime against the environment in the history of the human species. The FRAUD intentionally misdiagnoses real environmental problems and then scams the taxpayer for the money that would/should pay for the solution. Take the fires in CA. The warmest surface reading for the US was 1934, so nothing on the ground of the US is being caused by "warming" because there hasn't been any warming. Rather, CA fires get worse and worse because every additional human in CA takes that much fresh water from wildlife and plants, making the plant life DRY. The solution is DESAL, but we haven't done that, because The FRAUD intentionally misdiagnoses the real issue and blames its phony "warming" it knows isn't happening. Al Gore goes on TV and everyone praises him for the intentional misdiagnosis, and you bow your little birdbrain in support. Global non-Warming is an intentional FRAUD, a crime against the real environment. Anyone and everyone who supports The FRAUD of Global non-Warming is, in essence, cheering the fires in CA and lying to keep more coming, because that is how they enrich and empower themselves. The victims are the US taxpayer and the real environment. The real environment's #1 enemy is The FRAUD of Global non-Warming. What the !@#$ is "DESAL"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 What the !@#$ is "DESAL"? Even with my short attention span I think that means desalination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/c...ts-1822396.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Wow. You people suffer from severe retardation. There is no other explanation for the posts in this thread. Go pray to your fictional jesus, you'll need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Wow. You people suffer from severe retardation. There is no other explanation for the posts in this thread. Go pray to your fictional jesus, you'll need it. Is that the global scientific consensus? Maybe you should deduct carbon credits from the non-believers. That will teach them not to question the Gospel of Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/c...ts-1822396.html Who the !@#$ cares? We are all going to die in 2012 anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 This is just unreal. You are attempting to deflect the issue. The issue is whether or not Global Warming is an organized FRAUD and always was one. If Global Warming is a complete farce, and the planet is not warming, then Global Warming is the greatest crime against the environment in the history of the human species. The FRAUD intentionally misdiagnoses real environmental problems and then scams the taxpayer for the money that would/should pay for the solution. Take the fires in CA. The warmest surface reading for the US was 1934, so nothing on the ground of the US is being caused by "warming" because there hasn't been any warming. Rather, CA fires get worse and worse because every additional human in CA takes that much fresh water from wildlife and plants, making the plant life DRY. The solution is DESAL, but we haven't done that, because The FRAUD intentionally misdiagnoses the real issue and blames its phony "warming" it knows isn't happening. Al Gore goes on TV and everyone praises him for the intentional misdiagnosis, and you bow your little birdbrain in support. Global non-Warming is an intentional FRAUD, a crime against the real environment. Anyone and everyone who supports The FRAUD of Global non-Warming is, in essence, cheering the fires in CA and lying to keep more coming, because that is how they enrich and empower themselves. The victims are the US taxpayer and the real environment. The real environment's #1 enemy is The FRAUD of Global non-Warming. I could care less about global warming. The whole !@#$ing point was that we should be environmentally conscious REGARDLESS of the global warming debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Some jackass on CNN yesterday reported that the US holds the big cards in the movement toward global climate control, and since Republicans were holding things up in this country, they were essentially blocking the world effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Some jackass on CNN yesterday reported that the US holds the big cards in the movement toward global climate control, and since Republicans were holding things up in this country, they were essentially blocking the world effort. Yup....40 Senate Republicans are holding the entire global environment hostage. It used to be that you needed to come to this board to hear such idiocy. Nice to see it's now broadcast on major networks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Some jackass on CNN yesterday reported that the US holds the big cards in the movement toward global climate control, and since Republicans were holding things up in this country, they were essentially blocking the world effort. Perhaps conner, in his apparent infinite wisdom, can explain how this is happening, with Democrats controlling the House, Senate, and White House. I mean really, how, exactly, are Republicans holding "things" up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede316 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 He does not have too...We are too simple and retarded to fathom his infinite wisdom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Since there is sooooo much fondness of science on this board, let's apply a well know scientific precept, Occam's Razor, to this shall we? (For those that aren't familiar, google it biotches) 1. The earth appears to be cooling instead of warming, yet we have been told the opposite is the case. What is the more simple explanation? a. The scientists/activists/politicians involved lied/and continue to lie to further a political agenda b. Man now holds more power than the Sun. In fact, Man via layer upon layer of "cause and effect", and not the Sun or the entire ocean's salinity levels, is responsible for Global Warming(that actually isn't happening). 2. The entire Global Warming theory centers on clouds behaving a certain way. Said clouds aren't exhibiting the behavior necessary for this theory to be supported. What is the more simple explanation? a. The scientists/activists/politicians involved lied/and continue to lie to further a political agenda b. Our understanding of these clouds is completely wrong in every aspect. Basically we need to start all over again, because we must not be able to properly measure these clouds, since of course they ARE in fact showing the behavior the Global Warming theory describes. 3. Amazingly, the support for Global Warming among peoples of the world directly correlates to how much benefit they will gain from proposed actions. What is the more simple explanation? a. These people are using a BIG LIE, just like religion has been used, to further their own self-interests and greed, knowing full well that they cannot compete if the playing field is level. Instead, they make up phony "moral imperative", and thereby get to claim "justice" as they see our economy stifled, and theirs improved. b. Truly these are the "children of Gaia", and they have been full-blooded environmentalists their whole lives. Of course they can show that they have been thinking green since they were in highschool...and not simply the minute that they realized Global Warming = $$$. Of course they can all document fully their "earth first" positions since high school/college. They haven't been spending any time pursuing "alternative" economic models or fighting for wealth redistribution in any way. No this has only ever been about the environment. I will leave it to you all to decide. Careful though...if you choose "a" to any of those, you are going to be told that you believe in conspiracy theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaDairis Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I could care less about global warming. The whole !@#$ing point was that we should be environmentally conscious REGARDLESS of the global warming debate. and nothing is more "anti-environmentally conscious" than an intentional fraud that deliberately misinterprets real environmental problems and hence makes sure the real problems go unsolved. True "environmentalists" want the CA fires solved via desal, and don't think creatures with growing populations should be classified as "endangered," especially when their "habitat" is the reason why their population has been increasing since we started measuring it 30 years ago... ENDANGERED SPECIES are those with declining populations, not polar bears with an increasing population... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaDairis Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 "The earth appears to be cooling instead of warming, yet we have been told the opposite is the case. What is the more simple explanation?" The simple answer is that Earth "temperatures" are defined by The FRAUD as just on the surface of growing urban areas. Until you understand that, you will be fooled by The FRAUD, and The FRAUD will eventually be able to show "warming" again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaDairis Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Some jackass on CNN yesterday reported that the US holds the big cards in the movement toward global climate control, and since Republicans were holding things up in this country, they were essentially blocking the world effort. Let nobody ever forget the media's obsession with pushing this particular FRAUD. The media coverage of the Fraud of Global non-Warming has made the 1992 campaign coverage look fair... and don't look too closely at which lobbies are pushing The FRAUD, lest you get hit in the head with a flurry of anti-semite cards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I could care less about global warming. The whole !@#$ing point was that we should be environmentally conscious REGARDLESS of the global warming debate. The issue, at least for me, is when data being skewed to show proof of something doesn't exist becomes the foundation for laws and regulations that I must obey and pay for, either in taxes or by purchasing something that costs more to make but that has little to no real effect in correcting something that doesn't exist. You must buy this kind of lightbulb. You must buy this kind of car. You must have this type of health insurance. You must, must, must, must do, do, do, do because because because because... At one point it will dawn on you that opposing things like government-run health care and pretend global warming studies has more to do keeping government out of my life and less to do with whatever other concocted problem liberals say there are. "You're afraid of progress. You're for the status quo. You're not compassionate." One day it'll twack you between the eyes. If we're lucky, you won't be as old as me when that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 The issue, at least for me, is when data being skewed to show proof of something doesn't exist becomes the foundation for laws and regulations that I must obey and pay for, either in taxes or by purchasing something that costs more to make but that has little to no real effect in correcting something that doesn't exist. You must buy this kind of lightbulb. You must buy this kind of car. You must have this type of health insurance. You must, must, must, must do, do, do, do because because because because... At one point it will dawn on you that opposing things like government-run health care and pretend global warming studies has more to do keeping government out of my life and less to do with whatever other concocted problem liberals say there are. "You're afraid of progress. You're for the status quo. You're not compassionate." One day it'll twack you between the eyes. If we're lucky, you won't be as old as me when that happens. Haha, you're not totally wrong, but I don't recall ever advocating preemptive or even preventative legislation. In fact, when asked to give an example (in this thread) I suggested it be a cause that private businesses assume on their own simply for the long-term soft and financial benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Haha, you're not totally wrong, but I don't recall ever advocating preemptive or even preventative legislation. In fact, when asked to give an example (in this thread) I suggested it be a cause that private businesses assume on their own simply for the long-term soft and financial benefits. The problem with discussing anything with you is that you never seem to remember ever having said anything or suggesting anything or insinuating anything or implying anything. You just reference some topic and in theory (technically, or in some other way) never really offer an opinion on it beyond some obscure comment from the other day, and if someone inferred you had an opinion on it they were simply wrong. Make no mistake: you're going to make someone a wonderful wife some day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 The problem with discussing anything with you is that you never seem to remember ever having said anything or suggesting anything or insinuating anything or implying anything. You just reference some topic and in theory (technically, or in some other way) never really offer an opinion on it beyond some obscure comment from the other day, and if someone inferred you had an opinion on it they were simply wrong. Make no mistake: you're going to make someone a wonderful wife some day. Talking about the AP and Global Cooling, here is some more proof of their liberal bias. Btw, take a look below, some of the emails from these loony alarmists are down below. http://apcheck.blogspot.com/ From: Dave S To: Shrikant J Subject: RE: CO2 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:21:35 -0600 (MDT) I want to make one thing really clear. We ARE NOT supposed to be working with the assumption that these scenarios are realistic. They are scenarios-internally consistent (or so we thought) what-if storylines. You are in fact out of line to assume that these are in some sense realistic-this is in direct contradiction to the guidance on scenarios provided by the synthesis team. If you want to do ‘realistic CO2 effects studies, you must do sensitivity analyses bracketing possible trajectories. We do not and cannot not and must not prejudge what realistic CO2 trajectories are, as they are ultimatley a political decision (except in the sense that reserves and resources provide an upper bound). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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