Let'sGoBuffalo Posted August 27, 2004 Posted August 27, 2004 Botton line: John Kerry chose to go into battle and risk his life for his country. Bush chose not to go into battle and save his skinny a$$. I respect John Kerry far more.
IDBillzFan Posted August 27, 2004 Posted August 27, 2004 Botton line:John Kerry chose to go into battle and risk his life for his country. Bush chose not to go into battle and save his skinny a$$. I respect John Kerry far more. 9609[/snapback] Bottom line: four months in Vietnam does not qualified Kerry to be Commander in Chief of the United States of America. Nineteen years in the Senate does...if you happened to have shown up enough times. I respect John Kerry for going to war. Beyond that...crickets.
DC Tom Posted August 27, 2004 Posted August 27, 2004 He was still acting like a bombastic, grandstanding !@#$ this week at the behest of FrankenKerry. 9442[/snapback] Therein lies the difference in our opinion. He struck me little more than a shill. Really...using a disabled vet to deliver hate mal, all to take the focus off the mail and on to the treatment of the disabled vet (who is of COURSE going to be turned away, given what he's there for). Now, had Kerry's campaign had the creativity to ask John McCain deliver the letter...fellow Republican, fellow AF pilot, former POW who actually saw service...THAT would have been the smart. (Even money says McCain would have done it, too.) Instead, what do we get from them? "Hey, let's put the cripple on display!" !@#$ing boxing epileptic monkeys. Someone wake me up when it's December - no, February. I don't want to be awake for the post-election lawsuits, either.
MichFan Posted August 27, 2004 Posted August 27, 2004 Botton line:John Kerry chose to go into battle and risk his life for his country. Bush chose not to go into battle and save his skinny a$$. I respect John Kerry far more. If it were that simple, Kerry wouldn't be having the problems he has now. If Kerry were a humble war veteran (the way 99.9% are) who blushed when others talked of his medals, who saw the real heroes as those who served with/under him rather than himself, and preferred to talk about today rather than 35 years ago, he would have a 10-point lead right now. But his self-righteous arrogance has landed him in a position where the Swifities wanted to and could damage his campaign.
VABills Posted August 28, 2004 Posted August 28, 2004 !@#$ing boxing epileptic monkeys. Someone wake me up when it's December - no, February. I don't want to be awake for the post-election lawsuits, either. 9649[/snapback] Don't worry, at this point it doesn't look close. I don't think there are going to be any lawsuits, except maybe Kerry geting sued by the SBV's.
IDBillzFan Posted August 28, 2004 Posted August 28, 2004 If Kerry were a humble war veteran (the way 99.9% are) who blushed when others talked of his medals, who saw the real heroes as those who served with/under him rather than himself, and preferred to talk about today rather than 35 years ago, he would have a 10-point lead right now. From a strategic standpoint, I have to agree. I don't know that he'd have a 10-point lead, but he'd have momentum right now off being ahead in the polls similar to the momentum he got from surprising everyone in the primaries.THAT kind of momentum is very contagious within the American Idol crowd with Hot Pocket mentality. You get them thinking Kerry is ahead...pepper in a bit about how the first Bush lost reelection because of the economy despite unprecendented popularity from the Gulf War, and how never in the history of the world has a president AND his son BOTH lost a reelection campaign, and WHAMMO...victory Kerry. You have to appeal to the Hot Pockets TV Guide mentality, and if you do it right it would be like watching a reality show for these folks. Kerry would win it in a walk. Unfortunately, for a guy out to help those who can't help themselves, he sure sucks at communicating with them.
VABills Posted August 28, 2004 Posted August 28, 2004 From a strategic standpoint, I have to agree. I don't know that he'd have a 10-point lead, but he'd have momentum right now off being ahead in the polls similar to the momentum he got from surprising everyone in the primaries.THAT kind of momentum is very contagious within the American Idol crowd with Hot Pocket mentality. You get them thinking Kerry is ahead...pepper in a bit about how the first Bush lost reelection because of the economy despite unprecendented popularity from the Gulf War, and how never in the history of the world has a president AND his son BOTH lost a reelection campaign, and WHAMMO...victory Kerry. You have to appeal to the Hot Pockets TV Guide mentality, and if you do it right it would be like watching a reality show for these folks. Kerry would win it in a walk. Unfortunately, for a guy out to help those who can't help themselves, he sure sucks at communicating with them. 9741[/snapback] Don't worry, he might be "drawering" up a new plan as we speak.
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted August 28, 2004 Posted August 28, 2004 Someone send Kerry a copy of Russert's book.....explains well how to serve in the armed forces and do it with class and dignity.
BRH Posted August 28, 2004 Posted August 28, 2004 Someone send Kerry a copy of Russert's book.....explains well how to serve in the armed forces and do it with class and dignity. 9933[/snapback] Well, he certainly didn't learn from stuff like this.
BadDad Posted August 28, 2004 Posted August 28, 2004 ...but for how he is reacting today! Swiftboat veterans expose something new ...But last Thursday, John Kerry gave the vets the legitimacy they were looking for by acknowledging them, beginning to call them names and claiming they were dishonest. This is where I believe the "Swiftees" have done us all a favor in exposing John Kerry. They exposed him and his lack of leadership skills in how he handles a crisis. And what we are beginning to see is ugly. His party threatens to sue television stations carrying the ads. Then they shift to apply pressure to Regnery Publishers to recall their book "Unfit for Command." Then they go after bookstores which were selling it. Then they label all swiftboat vets liars and go on television to try to debate the guys. (And for what it's worth Kerry's surrogate – John Hurley – has looked absolutely pathetic.) Then, out of desperation, Kerry begins trying to secretly arrange meetings with the swiftboat vets – which they only expose him on. And when all of these attempts make no impact, he sends goons to Crawford, Texas, to protest outside Bush's private residence. They were delivering a letter that sounded like a piglet which had finally been caught in the County Fair "pig grab" rather than a serious complaint in this political season. "The crying, the whining, the moaning – oh my." And that's when it began to hit me like a ton of bricks. John Kerry is so afraid of conflict, of criticism, of anyone who disagrees with him or points out his inaccuracies, he would never survive six months in face of the genuine problems he would have to deal with in the White House. I can just see it. Every single time there is a negative press report out about him – "President Kerry" would feel compelled to go on every single cable TV talk show to "denounce the smears." Anybody remember how President Bush responded when groups spent $65 million dollars morphing him into Adolph Hitler? So, I ask you to fill in the blank: "From watching John Kerry handle the campaign crisis posed by the controversy of the swiftboat vets, __________ is what I have learned about John Kerry's leadership." Knowing that the presidency is not something where one can survive long with ultra-thin skin, I want to know what voter's impressions are on how you believe John Kerry would react in face of a true crisis. Listeners to my radio show seem to believe Kerry had a resemblance to a 3-year-old toddler who – though he wanted to be the tough guy in the room – was likely to be the first one to run for mommy's skirts should another kid look at him funny. I believe that this is an outstanding analysis of exactly how he responds. Remember Iowa – Kerry is Mr. Bravado: "BRING IT ON!" Remember Illinois – Kerry is Mr. Stealth: "These guys are the biggest bunch of liars ..." Remember Boston – Kerry is Mr. Soldier: "Reporting for duty ..." All of those occurred when his world was looking up – no crisis – no real challenge. Remember last Thursday – Kerry turns into Mr. Crybaby: "Tell them to stop picking on me ..." All the debate about what happened in Vietnam aside, the Swift Boat Vets have exposed the fact that, in a crisis, Mr. "Bring it On" is really Lt. Clueless, Junior Grade. And realizing what the mullahs in Iran or the dictator in North Korea wish to do to us, America does not need a child who plays victim "Reporting for duty." 9258[/snapback] Three words in reply, where was George?
Guest RabidBillsFanVT Posted August 28, 2004 Posted August 28, 2004 John Kerry is so afraid of conflict, of criticism, of anyone who disagrees with him or points out his inaccuracies, he would never survive six months in face of the genuine problems he would have to deal with in the White House. I think BUSH is afraid of conflict, of criticism, of anyone who disagrees with him or points out his inaccuracies. THAT'S WHY he puts up this stone wall in Guantanamo, in the Energy Meeting records, and says NOTHING while Iraq went to hell in a handbasket. A professor from UVA today put it into words so well- he just DOESN'T ADMIT HE'S DONE ANYTHING WRONG. THAT'S what makes him so frustrating... what good is leadership when you don't take criticism? That's not leadership, that's dictatorship. WE should have had McCain... that's my slogan for 2004.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 28, 2004 Posted August 28, 2004 John Kerry is so afraid of conflict, of criticism, of anyone who disagrees with him or points out his inaccuracies, he would never survive six months in face of the genuine problems he would have to deal with in the White House. I think BUSH is afraid of conflict, of criticism, of anyone who disagrees with him or points out his inaccuracies. THAT'S WHY he puts up this stone wall in Guantanamo, in the Energy Meeting records, and says NOTHING while Iraq went to hell in a handbasket. A professor from UVA today put it into words so well- he just DOESN'T ADMIT HE'S DONE ANYTHING WRONG. THAT'S what makes him so frustrating... what good is leadership when you don't take criticism? That's not leadership, that's dictatorship. WE should have had McCain... that's my slogan for 2004. 10179[/snapback] Who said Iraq's gone to hell? I think Iraq's come OUT OF hell. You're a singleminded simpleton if you believe ANYBODY could have handled the situation better. And I'm not voiting for Bush, so don't give me the same lame Democratic response, OK?
billfan63 Posted August 28, 2004 Posted August 28, 2004 ...but for how he is reacting today! Swiftboat veterans expose something new ...But last Thursday, John Kerry gave the vets the legitimacy they were looking for by acknowledging them, beginning to call them names and claiming they were dishonest. This is where I believe the "Swiftees" have done us all a favor in exposing John Kerry. They exposed him and his lack of leadership skills in how he handles a crisis. And what we are beginning to see is ugly. His party threatens to sue television stations carrying the ads. Then they shift to apply pressure to Regnery Publishers to recall their book "Unfit for Command." Then they go after bookstores which were selling it. Then they label all swiftboat vets liars and go on television to try to debate the guys. (And for what it's worth Kerry's surrogate – John Hurley – has looked absolutely pathetic.) Then, out of desperation, Kerry begins trying to secretly arrange meetings with the swiftboat vets – which they only expose him on. And when all of these attempts make no impact, he sends goons to Crawford, Texas, to protest outside Bush's private residence. They were delivering a letter that sounded like a piglet which had finally been caught in the County Fair "pig grab" rather than a serious complaint in this political season. "The crying, the whining, the moaning – oh my." And that's when it began to hit me like a ton of bricks. John Kerry is so afraid of conflict, of criticism, of anyone who disagrees with him or points out his inaccuracies, he would never survive six months in face of the genuine problems he would have to deal with in the White House. I can just see it. Every single time there is a negative press report out about him – "President Kerry" would feel compelled to go on every single cable TV talk show to "denounce the smears." Anybody remember how President Bush responded when groups spent $65 million dollars morphing him into Adolph Hitler? So, I ask you to fill in the blank: "From watching John Kerry handle the campaign crisis posed by the controversy of the swiftboat vets, __________ is what I have learned about John Kerry's leadership." Knowing that the presidency is not something where one can survive long with ultra-thin skin, I want to know what voter's impressions are on how you believe John Kerry would react in face of a true crisis. Listeners to my radio show seem to believe Kerry had a resemblance to a 3-year-old toddler who – though he wanted to be the tough guy in the room – was likely to be the first one to run for mommy's skirts should another kid look at him funny. I believe that this is an outstanding analysis of exactly how he responds. Remember Iowa – Kerry is Mr. Bravado: "BRING IT ON!" Remember Illinois – Kerry is Mr. Stealth: "These guys are the biggest bunch of liars ..." Remember Boston – Kerry is Mr. Soldier: "Reporting for duty ..." All of those occurred when his world was looking up – no crisis – no real challenge. Remember last Thursday – Kerry turns into Mr. Crybaby: "Tell them to stop picking on me ..." All the debate about what happened in Vietnam aside, the Swift Boat Vets have exposed the fact that, in a crisis, Mr. "Bring it On" is really Lt. Clueless, Junior Grade. And realizing what the mullahs in Iran or the dictator in North Korea wish to do to us, America does not need a child who plays victim "Reporting for duty." 9258[/snapback] Where does it say Kerry sent Cleland to Crawford????
Guest RabidBillsFanVT Posted August 28, 2004 Posted August 28, 2004 Who said Iraq's gone to hell? I think Iraq's come OUT OF hell. You're a singleminded simpleton if you believe ANYBODY could have handled the situation better. And I'm not voiting for Bush, so don't give me the same lame Democratic response, OK? 10237[/snapback] No, you are wrong. A LOT of people could have handled the situation better, BY NOT GOING TO WAR THERE in the first place. The Afghanistan job was NEVER completed before we went jaunting off into Iraq on a wild goose chase. Believe me, the hell in Iraq is in its initial stages... democracy will not last in the region, history says it will be so. I have no proof of course, but in the end, I'm willing to state it now until I am blue in the face because it's inevitable unless we plan on staying there forever. How many men did we lose AFTER the war as compared to DURING the war? If that's not hell for the recent past for the U.S. military, I don't know what is...getting bombed by people who aren't in uniform, and who strike whenever and wherever. Iraq does NOT equal 9/11.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 29, 2004 Posted August 29, 2004 Believe me, the hell in Iraq is in its initial stages... democracy will not last in the region, history says it will be so. 10286[/snapback] Oh it does, does it? Well, by your accounting, Democracy will never last in Russia, Germany or Japan where it hadn't existed until the last century, either. Unless you're a blatant racist that thinks Arabs are incapable of democratic life.
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