Gavin in Va Beach Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 ...but for how he is reacting today! Swiftboat veterans expose something new ...But last Thursday, John Kerry gave the vets the legitimacy they were looking for by acknowledging them, beginning to call them names and claiming they were dishonest. This is where I believe the "Swiftees" have done us all a favor in exposing John Kerry. They exposed him and his lack of leadership skills in how he handles a crisis. And what we are beginning to see is ugly. His party threatens to sue television stations carrying the ads. Then they shift to apply pressure to Regnery Publishers to recall their book "Unfit for Command." Then they go after bookstores which were selling it. Then they label all swiftboat vets liars and go on television to try to debate the guys. (And for what it's worth Kerry's surrogate – John Hurley – has looked absolutely pathetic.) Then, out of desperation, Kerry begins trying to secretly arrange meetings with the swiftboat vets – which they only expose him on. And when all of these attempts make no impact, he sends goons to Crawford, Texas, to protest outside Bush's private residence. They were delivering a letter that sounded like a piglet which had finally been caught in the County Fair "pig grab" rather than a serious complaint in this political season. "The crying, the whining, the moaning – oh my." And that's when it began to hit me like a ton of bricks. John Kerry is so afraid of conflict, of criticism, of anyone who disagrees with him or points out his inaccuracies, he would never survive six months in face of the genuine problems he would have to deal with in the White House. I can just see it. Every single time there is a negative press report out about him – "President Kerry" would feel compelled to go on every single cable TV talk show to "denounce the smears." Anybody remember how President Bush responded when groups spent $65 million dollars morphing him into Adolph Hitler? So, I ask you to fill in the blank: "From watching John Kerry handle the campaign crisis posed by the controversy of the swiftboat vets, __________ is what I have learned about John Kerry's leadership." Knowing that the presidency is not something where one can survive long with ultra-thin skin, I want to know what voter's impressions are on how you believe John Kerry would react in face of a true crisis. Listeners to my radio show seem to believe Kerry had a resemblance to a 3-year-old toddler who – though he wanted to be the tough guy in the room – was likely to be the first one to run for mommy's skirts should another kid look at him funny. I believe that this is an outstanding analysis of exactly how he responds. Remember Iowa – Kerry is Mr. Bravado: "BRING IT ON!" Remember Illinois – Kerry is Mr. Stealth: "These guys are the biggest bunch of liars ..." Remember Boston – Kerry is Mr. Soldier: "Reporting for duty ..." All of those occurred when his world was looking up – no crisis – no real challenge. Remember last Thursday – Kerry turns into Mr. Crybaby: "Tell them to stop picking on me ..." All the debate about what happened in Vietnam aside, the Swift Boat Vets have exposed the fact that, in a crisis, Mr. "Bring it On" is really Lt. Clueless, Junior Grade. And realizing what the mullahs in Iran or the dictator in North Korea wish to do to us, America does not need a child who plays victim "Reporting for duty." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 And when all of these attempts make no impact, he sends goons to Crawford, Texas, to protest outside Bush's private residence. 9258[/snapback] Cleland, a goon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Cleland, a goon? 9289[/snapback] That was my first reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted August 27, 2004 Author Share Posted August 27, 2004 Cleland, a goon? 9289[/snapback] Main Entry: goon Pronunciation: 'gün Function: noun Etymology: probably short for English dialect gooney (simpleton) 1 : a stupid person 2 : a man hired to terrorize or eliminate opponents Let's see, does Cleland fall under the first definition? He did pick up his own live grenade? I say yes. Does he fall under the second definition? He was sent to Crawford to supposedly 'terrorize' the opposition into accepting his 'letter' in order that they be portrayed as big meanies. Come on Dex, keep up, or can one only be a goon if one has all their limbs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Riiigght. If you react you are a crybaby and if you don't, a cricket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Main Entry: goon Pronunciation: 'gün Function: noun Etymology: probably short for English dialect gooney (simpleton) 1 : a stupid person 2 : a man hired to terrorize or eliminate opponents Let's see, does Cleland fall under the first definition? He did pick up his own live grenade? I say yes. Does he fall under the second definition? He was sent to Crawford to supposedly 'terrorize' the opposition into accepting his 'letter' in order that they be portrayed as big meanies. Come on Dex, keep up, or can one only be a goon if one has all their limbs? 9310[/snapback] Usage, Gavin, usage. It's pretty clear from the context that the writer meant "goon" as in the second definition, not the first. And if he honestly thinks a one-limbed wheelchair-bound letter carrier is going to "terrorize" or "eliminate" anyone...who's he kidding? I'm sure the mere sight of Cleland immediately put Bush into a state of overwhelming, apoplexic horror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 I think its completely fair to characterize Cleland as a goon. Maybe not literally, but figuratively, Cleland's goal was to "terrorize", running down to TX, screaming and yelling, pounding on the door of GW's ranch with press in tow, his intentions were pretty clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 this is "news"? And you trust this guy? He looks like Bledsoe after a bender and 59 sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 I think its completely fair to characterize Cleland as a goon. Maybe not literally, but figuratively, Cleland's goal was to "terrorize", running down to TX, screaming and yelling, pounding on the door of GW's ranch with press in tow, his intentions were pretty clear. 9367[/snapback] A "figurative goon"? I'll bet Cleland would love to be able to "run" down to TX and "pound" on GW's door... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 A "figurative goon"? I'll bet Cleland would love to be able to "run" down to TX and "pound" on GW's door... 9399[/snapback] a figurative goon=RJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichFan Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 I endured great mental suffering and pain to watch Deborah Norville single handedly try to rehabilitate John Kerry on her show last night. Every question she asked of Thurlow and Gardner was in the vain of -- I know you're lying about Kerry so why don't you admit it. She actually had the gall to ask one of the vets (Gardner) if he was willing to apologize to all of the Vietnam veterans for dragging this issue back to the forefront and forcing them to relive the bad feelings of the era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted August 27, 2004 Author Share Posted August 27, 2004 I endured great mental suffering and pain to watch Deborah Norville single handedly try to rehabilitate John Kerry on her show last night. Every question she asked of Thurlow and Gardner was in the vain of -- I know you're lying about Kerry so why don't you admit it. She actually had the gall to ask one of the vets (Gardner) if he was willing to apologize to all of the Vietnam veterans for dragging this issue back to the forefront and forcing them to relive the bad feelings of the era. 9419[/snapback] Deborah Norville = RJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 OK, maybe "running" was the wrong word to use. He was still acting like a bombastic, grandstanding !@#$ this week at the behest of FrankenKerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 I endured great mental suffering and pain to watch Deborah Norville single handedly try to rehabilitate John Kerry on her show last night. Every question she asked of Thurlow and Gardner was in the vain of -- I know you're lying about Kerry so why don't you admit it. She actually had the gall to ask one of the vets (Gardner) if he was willing to apologize to all of the Vietnam veterans for dragging this issue back to the forefront and forcing them to relive the bad feelings of the era. 9419[/snapback] Wish I'd seen that. Something I ate last night didn't agree with me, and I could have used the emetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 I endured great mental suffering and pain to watch Deborah Norville single handedly try to rehabilitate John Kerry on her show last night. Every question she asked of Thurlow and Gardner was in the vain of -- I know you're lying about Kerry so why don't you admit it. She actually had the gall to ask one of the vets (Gardner) if he was willing to apologize to all of the Vietnam veterans for dragging this issue back to the forefront and forcing them to relive the bad feelings of the era. 9419[/snapback] Have you seen Hardball lately? Chris Matthews' act is making Fox's "Fair and Balanced" slogan seem real. I think Buchanan brought up Kerry's Christmas in Cambodia story and Matthews' response was literally: "I don't care!!!!" Ann Coulter of all people summed up Hardball perfectly. Matthews: "Kerry is a war hero." Guest: "But questions remain about his time in Vietna---" Mattews: "HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT ABOUT A WAR HERO LIKE JOHN KERRY?!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 I've always assumed that the appearance fee on his show is very high. It's hard to think that without the coin, people would just say "SHUT UP. You asked a question, I want to answer that question, so keep your trap shut and listen to my answer. If you interrupt me again, you WILL be B word-slapped". It's an incredibly phony show - prime-time Jerry Springer, a ratings whore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichFan Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 Have you seen Hardball lately? Chris Matthews' act is making Fox's "Fair and Balanced" slogan seem real. I enjoyed Matthews leading up to the election in 2000, and loved the SNL skit they did on him. He seemed to be pretty fair and balanced at the time. I can't even bear to watch his show now. He has become a partisan hack, barely more tolerable than Begala and Carville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted August 27, 2004 Author Share Posted August 27, 2004 I enjoyed Matthews leading up to the election in 2000, and loved the SNL skit they did on him. He seemed to be pretty fair and balanced at the time. I can't even bear to watch his show now. He has become a partisan hack, barely more tolerable than Begala and Carville. 9492[/snapback] I agree, Matthews seemed to be a lot more "fair" back in the day. Now it's like the DNC caught him in a hotel room with a dead hooker and blood all over his hands. Sad to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichFan Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 It's an incredibly phony show - prime-time Jerry Springer, a ratings whore... In his case, the ratings aren't growing (btw - how pathetic is CNN ): FOXNEWS O'REILLY 2.0 [RATING] FOXNEWS HANNTIY/COLMES 1.8 FOXNEWS GRETA 1.6 FOXNEWS BRIT HUME 1.3 FOXNEWS SHEP SMITH 1.3 MSNBC OLBERMAN 0.6 MSNBC NORVILLE 0.6 MSNBC HARDBALL 0.6 MSNBC SCARBOROUGH 0.6 CNN LARRY KING .5 CNN AARON BROWN 0.5 CNN PAULA ZAHN 0.5 CNBC DENNIS MILLER 0.1 CNBC MCENROE 0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCow Posted August 27, 2004 Share Posted August 27, 2004 World Net Daily? I guess the National Inquirer didn't have a good smear against Kerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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