Big Turk Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 About time...defensive players kept tiptoeing around the issue all season, but Whitner sounds like he is sick of putting the offense in position to win games for 3 quarters and them puking all over the field... Basically said the offense needs to start converting these 3rd downs, they need to stop throwing 1,2 and 3 yard passes and need to start throwing more 5, 10 and 15 yard passes and that regardless of how well the defense is playing if they are left on the field for 65 to 70% of the game, no defense will hold up... Can't wait to see how Jauron spins this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoring is not hardy Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Glad someone said something. Whitner is good at getting the team riled up, i'll give him that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 That might mean something if it was coming from a player who...you know...pulled his own weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Whitner might want to shut his !@#$ing mouth and actually strap on some pads, take the field and make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Glad someone said something. Whitner is good at getting the team riled up, i'll give him that much. He is? Could have fooled me. Still waiting on his "guarantee" ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Glad someone said something. Whitner is good at getting the team riled up, i'll give him that much. I think the offense already knows its struggling and like Whitner's words are going to magically make things better just like they got us to the playoffs last year. The only thing this team has going for it is hanging together, now's not the time to split down the middle, its just a good excuse for the defense to quit doing what their doing if the offense continues to struggle. How about Donte just shutting his trap and stop whining and crying all the time and start helping the team win like his counterpart, Jairus Byrd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 I think the offense already knows its struggling and like Whitner's words are going to magically make things better just like they got us to the playoffs last year. The only thing this team has going for it is hanging together, now's not the time to split down the middle, its just a good excuse for the defense to quit doing what their doing if the offense continues to struggle. How about Donte just shutting his trap and stop whining and crying all the time and start helping the team win like his counterpart, Jairus Byrd. Yes Donte calling them out is a little much at this point. Probably be more effective from Stroud but he keeps his mouth shut and does his job. Week in week out. Very happy we decided to pay that guy, one good decision in a sea of bad ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 I'll ask what a previous poster asked......Link? And that's great, but this defense isn't exactly lighting it up either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Yes Donte calling them out is a little much at this point. Probably be more effective from Stroud but he keeps his mouth shut and does his job. Week in week out. Very happy we decided to pay that guy, one good decision in a sea of bad ones. I imagine when Stroud speaks, folks listen and the message probably would be more appropriate coming from Stroud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 I imagine when Stroud speaks, folks listen and a message would be much more appropriate coming from Stroud. But he just works hard and keeps silent. You have to respect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Well all I have to say is when your the last team in the league against the run you are not holding up your end of the field either...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Well all I have to say is when your the last team in the league against the run you are not holding up your end of the field either...... Line implies more than one guy. I think you will see very few runners headed into Stroud, and igf they do, that is the play they get stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Line implies more than one guy. I think you will see very few runners headed into Stroud, and igf they do, that is the play they get stopped. I'm just saying if the defense was in the top 10 in the league then they have a point. Stroud is playing well but one man does not make up a whole Defense. I feel until they get better against the run, everybody on D including Whitner should just shut the F... up and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 I'm just saying if the defense was in the top 10 in the league then they have a point. Stroud is playing well but one man does not make up a whole Defense. I feel until they get better against the run, everybody on D including Whitner should just shut the F... up and play. Agreed. The only guy that CAN legitimately speak, does not. Lil' Donte should shut his mouth now and forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 link? Don't have a link, I heard the Interview on multiple 20/20 sports updates on WGR this afternoon/evening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsInMaine Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Half the battle in sports is your attitude and outlook on the game! Whitner has that...not sayin he is a top tier player but he has the passion from what I can see! We need that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Anyone who thinks that only the "superstars" or best players can be leaders or speak out has obviously never played organized sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrudginglyPessimistic Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 A lot of this depends on how team leaders react and what tone DJ has set if he really has built a TEAM or just has a team. If there are recognized O leaders and they set the tone that the Whitner analysis (though misplaced somewhat in has never broken through to be recognized as more than a player with potential) is simply true. If the O leaders among the players (and I am not even sure who they are) set a tone of taking on this challenge (whether it be sloughing it off as that is just Donte but it is true or simply saying the words are true) then the O can internalize this challenge and be better. If however, in the absence of O leadership the prevailing reaction is one of defensiveness or anger at or calling out Whitner as a failed player then the Whitner rant will only divide the team further. One of the Bills mistakes IMHO is that they seemed to make choice to get rid of team leaders like Fletcher for being to old to play (an incorrect assessment it looks like). This left the team without the little vet leadership it had. The Bills seemed to have a theory than coached could fill that role, To some extent thet can, but the mediocre record of Jauron does not demand respect and I doubt there is much they can effectively do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 I don't care what he thinks. I don't care what any of these guys think or say for that matter. They're all riding in the back of a dump truck headed for the land fill known as The Off Season as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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