A reasonable, positive scenario

[UpstateSwagger]

I think we can all say that, at best, this season will end up mired in mediocrity, but alas, hope springs eternal in the NFL, where well-led, quick turnarounds are possible.

 

First things first, DJ will be gone unless he finds a way to win out or go 7-1, and that isn't happening. What also isn't happening is Cowher, Homgrem or Shanahan parking it in western NY for another Super Bowl run. I think realistically we end up with Billick, Chucky or maybe even a John Fox type if they decide to part ways in Carolina. I like all those choices and would also be pleased with a young, up-an-coming assistant ala Russ Grimm.

 

Next, where there's smoke, there's fire. I say we sign Vick for cheap in the off season; we'll get him reduced price by guaranteeing him a starting spot. At what point he was a winner (and that's way more I can say for any current Bill QB). Vick can make us competent with a new coach and give us a couple years to find a legit, franchise QB. He'll be well adjusted to game speed and a quality offense given his year with the Eagles.

 

On to the draft: we use our first-rounder on Gerald McCoy or (please God) Nebraska's Suh. This will provide an anchor on defense for years to come, and in the short-term a massive duo with Stroud. With our second pick, we take Ryan Mallet, our quarterback of the future. We cut ties with both Trentative and Fitzy -- Capt. Checkdown because no coach is washing that stench off and Fitzy because, well, he's just not very good. We start fresh with only The Chroise as a holdout from the previous regime's disaster because, well, he's just awesome. With the rest of the draft we alternate between O-Line and LB until it's all over.

 

We have a solid base if the proper staff can develop all this talented youth.

 

Demetrious Bell will get stronger and benefit from this trial-by-fire starting experiment, as will Meredith, Levitre and Wood. Maybin will pack on weight and hopefully enter next fall as an appropriately-sized pass-rushing specialist. The foundation of the secondary and receiving corps are already there. Vick guides us through the transition under an actual Offensive coach and scheme while we groom Mallet for a few years down the line.

 

Bingo! We're relevant again.

[tonyjustbcuz]

I think we can all say that, at best, this season will end up mired in mediocrity, but alas, hope springs eternal in the NFL, where well-led, quick turnarounds are possible.

 

First things first, DJ will be gone unless he finds a way to win out or go 7-1, and that isn't happening. What also isn't happening is Cowher, Homgrem or Shanahan parking it in western NY for another Super Bowl run. I think realistically we end up with Billick, Chucky or maybe even a John Fox type if they decide to part ways in Carolina. I like all those choices and would also be pleased with a young, up-an-coming assistant ala Russ Grimm.

 

Next, where there's smoke, there's fire. I say we sign Vick for cheap in the off season; we'll get him reduced price by guaranteeing him a starting spot. At what point he was a winner (and that's way more I can say for any current Bill QB). Vick can make us competent with a new coach and give us a couple years to find a legit, franchise QB. He'll be well adjusted to game speed and a quality offense given his year with the Eagles.

 

On to the draft: we use our first-rounder on Gerald McCoy or (please God) Nebraska's Suh. This will provide an anchor on defense for years to come, and in the short-term a massive duo with Stroud. With our second pick, we take Ryan Mallet, our quarterback of the future. We cut ties with both Trentative and Fitzy -- Capt. Checkdown because no coach is washing that stench off and Fitzy because, well, he's just not very good. We start fresh with only The Chroise as a holdout from the previous regime's disaster because, well, he's just awesome. With the rest of the draft we alternate between O-Line and LB until it's all over.

 

We have a solid base if the proper staff can develop all this talented youth.

 

Demetrious Bell will get stronger and benefit from this trial-by-fire starting experiment, as will Meredith, Levitre and Wood. Maybin will pack on weight and hopefully enter next fall as an appropriately-sized pass-rushing specialist. The foundation of the secondary and receiving corps are already there. Vick guides us through the transition under an actual Offensive coach and scheme while we groom Mallet for a few years down the line.

 

Bingo! We're relevant again.

[BillsVet]

Week 10 of the NFL season and we're already talking off-season. Kinda reminds me of 2006, 2007, 2008, and the 2009 NFL off-seasons. Selling hope will be much different this time around.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

I think we can all say that, at best, this season will end up mired in mediocrity, but alas, hope springs eternal in the NFL, where well-led, quick turnarounds are possible.

 

First things first, DJ will be gone unless he finds a way to win out or go 7-1, and that isn't happening. What also isn't happening is Cowher, Homgrem or Shanahan parking it in western NY for another Super Bowl run. I think realistically we end up with Billick, Chucky or maybe even a John Fox type if they decide to part ways in Carolina. I like all those choices and would also be pleased with a young, up-an-coming assistant ala Russ Grimm.

 

Next, where there's smoke, there's fire. I say we sign Vick for cheap in the off season; we'll get him reduced price by guaranteeing him a starting spot. At what point he was a winner (and that's way more I can say for any current Bill QB). Vick can make us competent with a new coach and give us a couple years to find a legit, franchise QB. He'll be well adjusted to game speed and a quality offense given his year with the Eagles.

 

On to the draft: we use our first-rounder on Gerald McCoy or (please God) Nebraska's Suh. This will provide an anchor on defense for years to come, and in the short-term a massive duo with Stroud. With our second pick, we take Ryan Mallet, our quarterback of the future. We cut ties with both Trentative and Fitzy -- Capt. Checkdown because no coach is washing that stench off and Fitzy because, well, he's just not very good. We start fresh with only The Chroise as a holdout from the previous regime's disaster because, well, he's just awesome. With the rest of the draft we alternate between O-Line and LB until it's all over.

 

We have a solid base if the proper staff can develop all this talented youth.

 

Demetrious Bell will get stronger and benefit from this trial-by-fire starting experiment, as will Meredith, Levitre and Wood. Maybin will pack on weight and hopefully enter next fall as an appropriately-sized pass-rushing specialist. The foundation of the secondary and receiving corps are already there. Vick guides us through the transition under an actual Offensive coach and scheme while we groom Mallet for a few years down the line.

 

Bingo! We're relevant again.

 

At this point, I'll try anything.

 

But to be quite honest, all we need to do is to hit on a QB. Maybe that guy's Vick, or maybe it's a 1st rounder. But if you have a franchise QB, it makes up for a lot of other shortcomings.

[tonyjustbcuz]

You sound reasonable with your analysis, but I don't think the Bills organization uses the same rationale that you do so no problem with your assessment, but I think things will work out differently utilizing "Bills Logic"... First off I don't think it would require the bills to finish the second half of the season at 7-1 for the Bills to retain Dick Jauron. Understand, that the Bills have D.J. under contract for 2 more years! If the Bills go 5-3 or better I think D.J. will likely remain the Head Coach! (Personally I think that stinks)...I want him gone last year! .....But in Bills world I think that they will instead blame the poor start on injuries as some players make their way back to the lineup. I think they will find another offensive coordinator, and possibly another strength and conditioning coach and pin most of the blame in those directions. I think that they will likely draft a QB in round #2 or #3. I think that the first round is a lock on a left OT if that player is on the board. Compared to what we have I would love to have any of the Head Coaches you mentioned or anyone with a winning record and a pulse! Heck I'd take my chances with UB's football coach over D.J. for that matter.

 

On the matter of M.Vick I personally don't have an opinion on him as a player as he only has thrown 2 completions on 6 attempts this year so far. There is no reason to believe in him quite yet, but I agree WHY NOT? Nothing we have at QB now is worth keeping and throwning more money into. We have a broken down Yugo for our offense that needs a new engine, transmission, brakes, and I think T.O. is coming out of the exhaust pipe!! We also need to draft better and bigger.

None of these stupid undersized players with high IQ's that have slipped past the other team's radars during the draft. Maybe concentrate on players that don't come from tiny COE College or Troy State and stick with Florida State, USC, Ohio State and teams that are big leauge college teams. Yeah, I know...why don't we start at the GM and get Bill Polian back as

GM! That would be first! Second: Polian hire new college scouts and staff. Then hire a solid coach with a tradition of winning football games! Then draft well and purge some of the crap at O.P. from the team...Personally M.Lynch would be good trade bait...Don't like him as a player, his rap sheet, his attitude, or his stats! How could he be laughing after Houston's RB ran for his 3rd T.D. a couple of weeks ago! Thurman would never have done this! Start Freddie without a doubt as he is a much better team player and had better stats prior to M.Lynch coming back after suspension. Anyways, No need to go on...do those things and your on course to be a solid team in 2 year!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe even S.B. once again!

[vincec]

Getting Vick would be a mistake. He is NOT a long term solution and the Bills have stop gap guys now. I suggest that they work on the OL and defensive front seven in the offseason and draft and then deal with QB. If they draft another QB and try to play him behind this line, he will quickly be destroyed.

[Astrobot]

I can agree with the core of Bell-Levitre-Wood, but Meredith and Hangartener are backups at best, and our FA linemen stunk.

 

I'll take one of the two or three best OT's in Trent Williams in RD#1 (Okung's long gone and Bulaga's likely gone) and the draft's best Center in RD#2, Maurkice Pouncey (Selvish Capers at OT could also be there). I'll take QB Jevan Snead or Dan LeFevour in RD#3 (yes, they'll drop to #70-79 right after Tony Pike) and Geno Atkins or Lamarr Houston at DT in RD#4. South Florida's Jason Pierre-Paul at DE is my fifth pick (he may soar up as high as 3rd rd), and as my 6th, I expect TE Aaron Hernandez to declare for the draft (may have to be 4th or 5th rd).

 

I now have a line of Bell-Levitre-Pouncey-Wood-Williams with Hangartener as backup, Mike Vick and Snead/LeFevour as QB's, and most of our existing WR's (Evans-Johnson-Reed-Hardy-Jenkins) and RB's. For D-Line I have Stroud and Atkins/Houston in the middle, and Pierre-Paul-Denney-Maybin-Schobel, outside.

[UpstateSwagger]

I can agree with the core of Bell-Levitre-Wood, but Meredith and Hangartener are backups at best, and our FA linemen stunk.

 

I'll take one of the two or three best OT's in Trent Williams in RD#1 (Okung's long gone and Bulaga's likely gone) and the draft's best Center in RD#2, Maurkice Pouncey (Selvish Capers at OT could also be there). I'll take QB Jevan Snead or Dan LeFevour in RD#3 (yes, they'll drop to #70-79 right after Tony Pike) and Geno Atkins or Lamarr Houston at DT in RD#4. South Florida's Jason Pierre-Paul at DE is my fifth pick (he may soar up as high as 3rd rd), and as my 6th, I expect TE Aaron Hernandez to declare for the draft (may have to be 4th or 5th rd).

 

I now have a line of Bell-Levitre-Pouncey-Wood-Williams with Hangartener as backup, Mike Vick and Snead/LeFevour as QB's, and most of our existing WR's (Evans-Johnson-Reed-Hardy-Jenkins) and RB's. For D-Line I have Stroud and Atkins/Houston in the middle, and Pierre-Paul-Denney-Maybin-Schobel, outside.

 

I don't know how anyone can even draft Jevan Snead given what he has deteriorated to this year. He has been just awful. I can, however, agree with you on The Fever. Although, I would still prefer Malett out of the second-tier QBs.

 

As far as Aaron Hernandez, I could see him sky-rocketing up the boards. Not only is he a big time gamer, but he is also a workout warrior, which we all know front office guys love. I'm a UF grad, and Hernandez actually runs a faster 40 than Cornelius Ingram ever has. He will be a second-rounder at worst, IMO. He will be the second TE to go.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

Move Butler back to guard and then Wood goes to center, that takes care of one of the spots. I'm not as turned off on Meridith either. If he were to be the weak link on the line, we're in good shape. Then you still have Hangardner as a backup, and the guy who currently is hurt. You can't afford 5 all-pro's If Bell looks like you can see a decent amount of improvement by year end, you go with wit hat LT and dxraft an outside LB or DT @ #1. If Bell is still shakey, then a LT with #1

[BillsVet]

Move Butler back to guard and then Wood goes to center, that takes care of one of the spots. I'm not as turned off on Meridith either. If he were to be the weak link on the line, we're in good shape. Then you still have Hangardner as a backup, and the guy who currently is hurt. You can't afford 5 all-pro's If Bell looks like you can see a decent amount of improvement by year end, you go with wit hat LT and dxraft an outside LB or DT @ #1. If Bell is still shakey, then a LT with #1

 

I'd be for moving Butler back to G, but he's been injured each season as a starter. His durability to stand up for an entire season is in doubt at this point. Hangartner has proven he's just a different type of Fowler: someone who is low cost and low reward.

 

Jamon Meredith, like Bell, is a project player. Neither OT is near good enough to be playing, let alone starting on a NFL team. Both players need another year to develop and then we'll talk. It's why both were late round picks, with Meredith unable to crack the roster of OT starved GB. But he's good enough in Buffalo.

 

I think it's ironic the Bills OL has worsened each year since 2007 when the big dollar FA's came in. More sacks allowed and less ability to run the ball. DJ and the front office plan is a catastrophic disaster.

[reddogblitz]

I say we sign Vick for cheap in the off season; we'll get him reduced price by guaranteeing him a starting spot.

 

Only problem is he signed a 2 year deal with the Eagles.

[UpstateSwagger]

Only problem is he signed a 2 year deal with the Eagles.

 

It is my understanding, and please, if someone knows, correct me, that the Eagles have the option on him for that second year. It is also my understanding that if they exercise that option they will pay him in excess of $5 million for next year. I think it's pretty clear that they would cut him before paying that amount for a player who doesn't fit their long-term plans.

[John from Riverside]

In order to right this ship quickly we are going to need to mix a combonation of quality free agent pickups and veterans........

[Red]

I don't see why you would bother talking about drafts and free agents as long as Tom Modrak and John Guy are still employed by the Bills.

 

Question: Recently fired Browns GM Kokinis was with a successful Ravens team for some 13 years as a Pro Player guy. Was he successful at that post? If so, I would replace Guy with Kokinis.

 

Buddy Nix can assume Tom Modrak's old post as Director of Scouting.

 

then it would be time to move Russ 'Barnum & Bailey' Brandon back to what he seems to do so well- marketing at COO.

 

Hire a real, proven, football GM (Allen, Wolf, Reese), and then allow the football people who know what they are doing (note: I did not mention any "hot" coordinator or unproven college coach) to implement a plan on getting this team back to the playoffs.

 

If Allen were GM I could see Gruden coaching here. If Wolf or Reese were involved I could see a Shottenheimer.

 

But until real football men are in the front office, it is no use talking about the draft or free agents as the outcome will be the same.

 

Oh, and that includes Michael Vick.

[ieatcrayonz]

I can agree with the core of Bell-Levitre-Wood, but Meredith and Hangartener are backups at best, and our FA linemen stunk.

 

I'll take one of the two or three best OT's in Trent Williams in RD#1

 

You really want the Bills to draft a guy named Trent Williams in the 1st? Really? Can we get J.P. Ellis in the 2nd and Roscoe Hardly in the 3rd?

 

[bills in va]

I don't know how anyone can even draft Jevan Snead given what he has deteriorated to this year. He has been just awful. I can, however, agree with you on The Fever. Although, I would still prefer Malett out of the second-tier QBs.

 

As far as Aaron Hernandez, I could see him sky-rocketing up the boards. Not only is he a big time gamer, but he is also a workout warrior, which we all know front office guys love. I'm a UF grad, and Hernandez actually runs a faster 40 than Cornelius Ingram ever has. He will be a second-rounder at worst, IMO. He will be the second TE to go.

Sorry I aint feelin' it with regards to your tight end talk. Tight end would be my priority number 5 after QB, OL, LB, DL.

[VJ91]

I think we can all say that, at best, this season will end up mired in mediocrity, but alas, hope springs eternal in the NFL, where well-led, quick turnarounds are possible.

 

First things first, DJ will be gone unless he finds a way to win out or go 7-1, and that isn't happening. What also isn't happening is Cowher, Homgrem or Shanahan parking it in western NY for another Super Bowl run. I think realistically we end up with Billick, Chucky or maybe even a John Fox type if they decide to part ways in Carolina. I like all those choices and would also be pleased with a young, up-an-coming assistant ala Russ Grimm.

 

Next, where there's smoke, there's fire. I say we sign Vick for cheap in the off season; we'll get him reduced price by guaranteeing him a starting spot. At what point he was a winner (and that's way more I can say for any current Bill QB). Vick can make us competent with a new coach and give us a couple years to find a legit, franchise QB. He'll be well adjusted to game speed and a quality offense given his year with the Eagles.

 

On to the draft: we use our first-rounder on Gerald McCoy or (please God) Nebraska's Suh. This will provide an anchor on defense for years to come, and in the short-term a massive duo with Stroud. With our second pick, we take Ryan Mallet, our quarterback of the future. We cut ties with both Trentative and Fitzy -- Capt. Checkdown because no coach is washing that stench off and Fitzy because, well, he's just not very good. We start fresh with only The Chroise as a holdout from the previous regime's disaster because, well, he's just awesome. With the rest of the draft we alternate between O-Line and LB until it's all over.

 

We have a solid base if the proper staff can develop all this talented youth.

 

Demetrious Bell will get stronger and benefit from this trial-by-fire starting experiment, as will Meredith, Levitre and Wood. Maybin will pack on weight and hopefully enter next fall as an appropriately-sized pass-rushing specialist. The foundation of the secondary and receiving corps are already there. Vick guides us through the transition under an actual Offensive coach and scheme while we groom Mallet for a few years down the line.

 

Bingo! We're relevant again.

 

Good ideas, but please, leave Vick out of the equation. Draft a kid in the first round, as long as our scouts can find the right one, and just play the kid from day one, like Ryan, Flacco and Sanchez. Let Vick go to some other deperate team, and Let the Bills rebuild the right way at QB, through the draft.

[AF88Bills]

I don't see why you would bother talking about drafts and free agents as long as Tom Modrak and John Guy are still employed by the Bills.

 

Question: Recently fired Browns GM Kokinis was with a successful Ravens team for some 13 years as a Pro Player guy. Was he successful at that post? If so, I would replace Guy with Kokinis.

 

Buddy Nix can assume Tom Modrak's old post as Director of Scouting.

 

then it would be time to move Russ 'Barnum & Bailey' Brandon back to what he seems to do so well- marketing at COO.

 

Hire a real, proven, football GM (Allen, Wolf, Reese), and then allow the football people who know what they are doing (note: I did not mention any "hot" coordinator or unproven college coach) to implement a plan on getting this team back to the playoffs.

 

If Allen were GM I could see Gruden coaching here. If Wolf or Reese were involved I could see a Shottenheimer.

 

But until real football men are in the front office, it is no use talking about the draft or free agents as the outcome will be the same.

 

Oh, and that includes Michael Vick.

 

 

You sir, have hit the nail on the head...until OBD hires a good football guy, then we will be stuck with 1 yr, "hope springs eternal" fixes....just enough to sell plenty of season tickets.

 

Otherwise, you'll continue to see the headscatching personnel decision rolling out of OBD...and the accompanying pitchers of kool-aid. there is a reason Jauron is still there. There is a reason we keep seeing good FAs go, and mediocre FA coming in. There is a reason we (and the talking heads) scatch their heads every year concerning draft day decisions. It's because this team has no plan other than getting butts into the seats for one more season.

 

I sound negative, because I'm frustrated. This organization has done the same thing every year for teh past ten years. They manage to have me talking (and many others) talking about what needs to be done to fix the team the following year...and guess what? It's only week 10 in the NFL...

[Ever Since '86]

I think we can all say that, at best, this season will end up mired in mediocrity, but alas, hope springs eternal in the NFL, where well-led, quick turnarounds are possible.

 

First things first, DJ will be gone unless he finds a way to win out or go 7-1, and that isn't happening. What also isn't happening is Cowher, Homgrem or Shanahan parking it in western NY for another Super Bowl run. I think realistically we end up with Billick, Chucky or maybe even a John Fox type if they decide to part ways in Carolina. I like all those choices and would also be pleased with a young, up-an-coming assistant ala Russ Grimm.

 

Next, where there's smoke, there's fire. I say we sign Vick for cheap in the off season; we'll get him reduced price by guaranteeing him a starting spot. At what point he was a winner (and that's way more I can say for any current Bill QB). Vick can make us competent with a new coach and give us a couple years to find a legit, franchise QB. He'll be well adjusted to game speed and a quality offense given his year with the Eagles.

 

On to the draft: we use our first-rounder on Gerald McCoy or (please God) Nebraska's Suh. This will provide an anchor on defense for years to come, and in the short-term a massive duo with Stroud. With our second pick, we take Ryan Mallet, our quarterback of the future. We cut ties with both Trentative and Fitzy -- Capt. Checkdown because no coach is washing that stench off and Fitzy because, well, he's just not very good. We start fresh with only The Chroise as a holdout from the previous regime's disaster because, well, he's just awesome. With the rest of the draft we alternate between O-Line and LB until it's all over.

 

We have a solid base if the proper staff can develop all this talented youth.

 

Demetrious Bell will get stronger and benefit from this trial-by-fire starting experiment, as will Meredith, Levitre and Wood. Maybin will pack on weight and hopefully enter next fall as an appropriately-sized pass-rushing specialist. The foundation of the secondary and receiving corps are already there. Vick guides us through the transition under an actual Offensive coach and scheme while we groom Mallet for a few years down the line.

 

Bingo! We're relevant again.

 

 

Perfect, where do I sign?

[BoBills20]

Get rid of M. Lynch in a trade, keep Freddie J and dreft another HB late. How about we build around speed and draft noel devine out of west virginia in a later round as a sleeper... Devine is used the same way as steve slaton was in a mountaineers jersey a couple of years ago and look how Slaton turned out in Houstan, a Pro Bowler. I would think we'll draft about 8-13 and find draft a QB like Clausen or Bradford despite his shoulder injury.

 

Of course take either Suh or Mccoy if they are there at DT at our pick but I doubt they will be. Then, you wait around a little while and take Terrance Cody out of Alabama to take up blocks for Schobel and Maybin to rush the QB.