Gavin in Va Beach Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 If Drew were a journeyman QB, signed for a moderate contract, then he'd be sitting on the bench by now. Probably benched a couple of games ago. TD and MM can't bear to sit him because he makes too friggin much. Sad how money ruins the game, isn't it? :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: TD. Swallow pride and let MM bench this waste of space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICE Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 If Drew were a journeyman QB, signed for a moderate contract, then he'd be sitting on the bench by now. Probably benched a couple of games ago. TD and MM can't bear to sit him because he makes too friggin much. Sad how money ruins the game, isn't it? I think some of these clowns might be on to something. It's all about tickets. They feel JP isn't ready (Again bad coaching by not getting him reps since the leg IS healthy) so they are gonna play Bledumbass. I say make the staff suffer. No people in the seats, booing every damn play. :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: TD. Swallow pride and let MM bench this waste of space. 119643[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeRay Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Sad how money ruins the game, isn't it? If what your saying is true, then what a golden opportunity the fans have to stand up and show some backbone by staying away from the Ralph this weekend.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Eric Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 There is another reason for starting Bledsoe. JP has not played since training camp and has had very limited practice. On Sunday he had 2 TO in 4 plays. He just is not ready. Starting Matthews accomplishes nothing. Starting Bledsoe is the wise thing to do for at least the next couple games. If the team plays badly you put in JP in the 4th or on certain downs to provide a spark or otherwise confuse the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick in* england Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 There is another reason for starting Bledsoe. JP has not played since training camp and has had very limited practice. On Sunday he had 2 TO in 4 plays. He just is not ready. Starting Matthews accomplishes nothing. Starting Bledsoe is the wise thing to do for at least the next couple games. If the team plays badly you put in JP in the 4th or on certain downs to provide a spark or otherwise confuse the defense. 119671[/snapback] Excellently put. I cannot agree more. Drew needs to start the rest of the season to give JP the room to grow when nothing matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UHSLA Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Finally, someone who gets it. Money rules football and is the basis for a lot of personnel decisions. It's why a player like Mike Williams can bail on camp for a couple days and not get cut. Say Stamer or Neufeld tried something like that. They'd be cut in a heartbeat. IMO, it's why a 4th round pick like Euhus displaced Neufeld for no reason but money. While both have been playing well, I bet it was Donahoe's call from upstairs that put his 4th round pick in the #2 spot. He has to justify his picks and the money spent. It's a sad reality, but this really is how and why some decisions are made in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Excellently put. I cannot agree more. Drew needs to start the rest of the season to give JP the room to grow when nothing matters. 119703[/snapback] I disagree...starting Drew *right now* is the appropriate thing, but Losman needs to have at least 3 starts in before the season is done. Give him another couple of weeks - he's not ready right now and there was no way anyone could have expected anything out of him on Sunday night. If I were coach (which I'm not), I'd tell him that he's now #2 and to get ready. Too early to start him this week, but I guess he should probably start either against Seattle or Miami, but no later than the Cleveland game. He's the future, so get him in there now. If he's healthy enough to go into Sunday night's mess, he's healthy enough to start. Look at Carson Palmer. He sat on the bench all of last year. He started poorly this year, but after 6-7 games, he's getting it. This is why Losman needs some games under his belt. The Bills aren't going to the playoffs (barring some miracle), so we might as well get ready for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UHSLA Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 I disagree...starting Drew *right now* is the appropriate thing, but Losman needs to have at least 3 starts in before the season is done. Give him another couple of weeks - he's not ready right now and there was no way anyone could have expected anything out of him on Sunday night. If I were coach (which I'm not), I'd tell him that he's now #2 and to get ready. Too early to start him this week, but I guess he should probably start either against Seattle or Miami, but no later than the Cleveland game. He's the future, so get him in there now. If he's healthy enough to go into Sunday night's mess, he's healthy enough to start. You're right, but with another QB with experience on the roster (although it is Matthews) there's still someone else that can start instead of Drew if the coaches wanted to prove their point with Drew. Know what I mean? It doesn't necessarily have to be JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 I disagree...starting Drew *right now* is the appropriate thing, but Losman needs to have at least 3 starts in before the season is done. Give him another couple of weeks - he's not ready right now and there was no way anyone could have expected anything out of him on Sunday night. If I were coach (which I'm not), I'd tell him that he's now #2 and to get ready. Too early to start him this week, but I guess he should probably start either against Seattle or Miami, but no later than the Cleveland game. He's the future, so get him in there now. If he's healthy enough to go into Sunday night's mess, he's healthy enough to start. Look at Carson Palmer. He sat on the bench all of last year. He started poorly this year, but after 6-7 games, he's getting it. This is why Losman needs some games under his belt. The Bills aren't going to the playoffs (barring some miracle), so we might as well get ready for next year. 119772[/snapback] I think the debate on whether starting JP "right now" is the crux of the argument. I say yes defintiely start him if he is ready, but all indicators point to him not beeing ready to start yet. IF I were coach I would not start him until he is ready. Do you disgree? Certainly, look at Carson Palmer (a QB judged by most NFL types as more talented than JP but yet he sat all year) but also look at other QBs and their experiences: Chad Pennington- perhaps one of the closer analogies to JP in terms of draft position and what he brings to the game (leadership ability but college experience which was successful but needs some work) though they are very different as players so there is no direct analogy. He got his first start in his third season after seeing mop-up roles similar to JP on Sunday his first two years and parleyed what he learned from sitting into leading his team to the playoffs his first year as a starter. Michael Vick- far better player than JP who has a better arm, some mechanical issues, and runs far better than JP and many RBs. However, he too sat most of his rookie year getting a couple of starts late in the season and in his second year led AT to the playoffs- Peyton Manning- one ofthe greatest students of the game ever as Dad Archie started him early. Not athletic in his movement but so efficient and econmical it ain't even funny. He profitted big time from starting immediately though his play and learning experience were useless to the team's W/L as they finished with the same 3-13 record he found. Yet, he showed he was special as he was the ONLY QB to start all 15 games for his team that year. These are all examples which speak even more loudly to me than the Carson Palmer example. Pennington and Vick both profitted from what Kyle Boller found last year when he started but got knocked out by injury. He was surprised to find that there are things a player can learn on the bench that he can't learn from playing. The irony for me is that I do believe that JP may actually profit a lot and be able to start at some point this season BECAUSE he got hurt and could not play. if he used the time well in the booth and at Sam Wyche's knee, i think he will actually be able to contribute to the Bills sooner. I doubt this will happen right away because the injury denied him practice time he needed to work on his mechanics, but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 If Drew were a journeyman QB, signed for a moderate contract, then he'd be sitting on the bench by now. Probably benched a couple of games ago. TD and MM can't bear to sit him because he makes too friggin much. Sad how money ruins the game, isn't it? :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: TD. Swallow pride and let MM bench this waste of space. 119643[/snapback] They are trying to recoup the costs of the rally from him. In all seriousness though, I have to agree. It certainly isn't because he's doing well. He makes some of the STUPIDEST plays I've ever seen a QB make in my life. It's just unbelieveable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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