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You know, other players have had terrible games, and yet the coaches have maintained faith. For example, Bernard starting for Milano in 2022 against the Jets had a terrible, horrible, no good very bad day. It looked like he was thinking all the time about what he should do and playing slow. Based on that, I had no expectation for him as a possible MLB replacement for Edmunds in 2024, especially when he sat out a lot of the pre-season. And Then...

I've been seeing a bunch of other teams releasing their announcements of team captains, and I'm jealous now. What's taking the Bills so long? Need a couple recounts on the votes? My guesses are below. Of note, McDermott went with 6 team captains from 2017-2019, then 7 in 2020, 8 in 2021, 9 in 2022, and back to 8 last year. I feel like we might be back to a lower number this year with all the incumbent captains departing? Offense -Allen and Dawkins are locks IMO, although Dawkins hasn't been a captain since 2020 I think he's such a veteran leader he's gotta be one this year. -Mack Hollins. Everyone on the Bills appears to be obsessed with this guy. He might also count as a special teams captain. -Dalton Kincaid? Defense -Bernard. He's the QB of the defense. Edmunds was a team captain basically every year till he left. Now that Bernard is the established starter, he'll get the C. -Von Miller has been a captain each of the last 2 years. Hard for me to think they take it away this year. -Benford? Special Teams -Mack Hollins? (see above) -Casey Toohill?

Shakir, Kincaid, Knox, Cook, Allen, DIggs, Edmunds, Poyer, Tre White, Hyde, ... Thats why

He may just have one good season right before free agency, just in time for the Bears to sign him and watch him suck again. Did you know Tremaine Edmunds was only 19 when we drafted him?

no that would have been Edmunds or Poyer in the past. McD currently Josh is appropriate for all adulation...

Perfect example of that for us would be Terrell Bernard. Pick made no sense in a vacuum of one year for where he was taken, with Edmunds and Milano on the roster. Fast forward two years and the guy is a key piece of the defense and an absolute stud in our system.

Move back, he's upset about no 3rd for Edmunds and wants to get some guys that can start in 2024 and maybe 2025 and to me that comes from quality picks early and easiest way to get more is to trade down in Round 1.

Wait, do the Bills have a 3rd this year? I thought we traded our 3rd for Rasul Douglas mid-season, and only got a 4th in comp for Edmunds.

They also clearly did not need him to start his rookie year. He was brought in to prepare for Edmunds departure.

How are the bills getting a 4th for gabe davis when edmunds and his monster contract got them only a 4th? Davis’s 3 years / $39 million deal is really not that much, and given the Samuel signing (3/24), I honestly expect a 5th at best and maybe even a sixth.

That's the whole point. Once you get out of the top 15, it's super inconsistent. The slam dunks at high value positions are gone. The Bills tried to move up to get the guys they wanted and were hit or miss, but they were always dealing from a weak position relative to the bad teams. How many stars have the chiefs or Ravens drafted in the first round since 2020? And Edmunds made the pro bowl 2x and signed a huge FA deal. He isn't the best player in the NFL, but most people would take that at 16. Meanwhile, Tee Higgins had 600 yards receiving last year in a contract year and he's better than everyone on the Bills.

Chicago does well in round 1!! They'd be thrilled with these selections AND the added draft capital. Bonus: Latu at almost a full 4 years older, should be a good mentor to Edmunds. Love this pick right here. Get your guy. Finally, the Raiders have hope.

One of the things that Beane appeared to address differently this year and maybe even already last year was picking players who performed high in college as opposed to in the early years of Beane as GM was picking players more based on potential and ceiling. A couple that come to mind were Knox, Edmunds, even Allen. I suppose it made more sense back than as the team was in a more longer term building mode whereas now they are looking to replace players with a new younger version right away.

1. Tremaine ‘only 19’ Edmunds. Physical freak but was always late. No way he made it to appointments on time. 2. Marcell Dareus. Definition of a bum. Put that captains hat away fatass. 3. Trent ‘not a bills fan’ Edwards. Was not the same after he got knocked to another dimension in phoenix. Damn shame that he turned into an ass too. 4. Buddy ‘show me the baby’ nix. That was one helluva an ugly baby. This dude had no business being in a nfl front office. He was more concerned with sleeping than actually doing anything. He drafted ej manuel and then bailed, like who the ***** does that. I bet he was a terrible gift giver too.

Just like the Bills got a third for Edmunds.

Seems like an obviously terrible decision from my perch. The fetishization of draft pick hording seems to be the driver — Beane can't quite get over the fourth tound comp designation for Edmunds and was hellbent on getting a third round pick. But jeez, don’t trade with KC. Hope I’m wrong.

They only moved from 22 to 16 to get up for Edmunds. It wasn’t all that much of an investment but I do agree with your sentiment.

The curious case of Tremaine Edmunds.

Combination of a few things: #1 Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs They have been to the Super Bowl 4 out of the 5 seasons. The Bengals got past them in 2021. The Bills SHOULD have beaten them that season as well. Whether it’s Tennessee, Buffalo, Cincy or Baltimore KC continues to be a really tough opponent in the post season. #2 Very very bad injury luck 2021 was All Pro Tre White 2022 saw “difference maker” Von Miller go down and other injuries late in the year 2023 saw Milano, Jones, and Tre out of most of the season. Then you had multiple injuries to positions of weak depth at WR and LB. Both which bit them in the ass. Yes, all teams face injuries. It’s part of the game. But having their best players face long term injuries is just horrible luck. #3 Anyone not named Josh Allen hasn’t stepped up. This includes Sean McDermott though it’s not all on him. Too many of the teams superstars are invisible at times when they are needed the most. This had nothing to do with coaching and more about stepping up. Players like Ed Oliver, Tremaine Edmunds, Stefon Diggs, etc.. where are these guys in big football games? So between KC being a dynasty, bad luck, and just failure the team is where it is

Don't forget Gabe in 2020 was more effective than Gabe 2023. He was part of the reason they had a top 3 WR corps in the NFL that year. And Dawson Knox 2020 was way more effective than the abysmal 2023 version. Allen's passer rating when targeting the true TE was much better in 2020. The only position they were stronger at anywhere on offense in 2023 was starting RB.........which is the least important to be strong at "individually". And yes the 2023 defense was more talented on the DL. But they were OLD at too many positions overall and it showed as the season went on. The back 7 was just not near the same quality as the 2020 team because of age. Guys like Hyde, Poyer and White were nearly at an all pro level in 2020. Even AJ Klein was outstanding when he filled in for Milano/Edmunds in 2020. That was arguably the best back 7 in football in 2020. All those mentioned were shells of their former selves last year. Bernard was an upgrade on Edmunds but that's about the only one in the back 7 who was better. Back in 2020 they were kinda' known as a young, durable unit. That matters. It's why they bounced back so well and played consistently from week to week and ran off a 13-3 record(and one of the 3 losses was the Hail Murray).

If they only got a 4th for the huge edmunds contract, how are they getting a 4th for 3 years/$39 million? I am assuming they get a fifth and maybe even a sixth because his contract will be offset somewhat by the 3 years/$24 million contract for Samuel. The more I think about it, I am assuming a 6th.

The kid is 20 (just 4 months older than Edmunds). He offered a reporter to tag along with him to find deals on clothing and asked for cookies. He wasn't trying to be funny. Everyone laughed because he was acting like a regular person and not above them like other players usually do. Nothing in that interview said diva.

The deal that sticks out to me the most was for Edmunds. That one was way out of left field, but it shows Beane will do whatever it takes to get his person.

Something I have learned over the years is to not get too excited over the offseason, one way or the other. The Bills definitely won the offseason when Rex was the coach, but not so much during the real season. Despite criticisms on this board, McDermott and Beane are disciplined, smart NFL veterans. They have a plan and are executing it. Give it some time. Last season, the big concern was MLB and the LB corps as a whole. Edmunds left as a free agent (to the delight of many here) with no clear replacement. McDermott said that the answer might already be on the roster, and this board blew up. Then the season came and Bernard played great. Spector and Dodson also played pretty well. Dorian Williams showed some flashes as a raw rookie backup. Until virtually all of them were injured in the playoffs, the LB unit was a major strength for the team. This season, with the loss of Diggs and Davis, the WR room looks like last year's LB situation (and arguably, Safety does too). Let's see how it plays out before getting too high or too low. It's only a few days into camp, but so far, so good.

We have seen Shakir and what he can do already. He just needs to maintain the same consistency. Nobody thought Bernard was going to play anywhere near as well as he did when he was thrust into a starting role with the loss of Edmunds. He really looked lost the year before. I don't know who is going to surprise us like that this year. Would like to see a rookie rise up and take a starting position.