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"NYET MEANS NYET" https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2022/02/27/us-nato-expansion-ukraine-russia-intervene/ Very simple to understand rationale here. Yeah yeah...its Rogan. But Dave Smith knows his stuff.

The fantasy may have been a concern after the first couple weeks, but when it was clear Russia wasn't winning the war anytime soon, I knew that any designs they had on invading other countries, much less NATO ones, was laughable. But since the Bidens had corrupt dealings there, they've been willing to accept the stories fed to them.

I like how DUI Pete has already blown our most crucial negotiation piece (NATO membership for Ukraine) and had to walk it back. Edit: hahaha this guy isn’t making it a year before Donny fires him

They got "burned bad" when they were fed Victoria Nuland's cookies and fell for the canard that the US and EU was there to help them. "NYET MEANS NYET" https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2022/02/27/us-nato-expansion-ukraine-russia-intervene/

He could cut off Ukraine from weapons and let Europe supply. He could just tell Russia to get out. He could privately tell Ukraine to give up Crimea He could pull out of Nato He could send in troups to support Ukraine, He could put more sanctions on Russia. Many things he could do BUT What he did do was hug Putin, threaten Ukraine, turn on NATO allies, offer Russia an economic relationship...... you see he offers help to Russia not as a carrot, because if it was he would not threaten Ukraine and you suggest Putin doesn't have something on Trump. Hmmmmm

So much for a quick peaceful end to the war. trump is putin's beech https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/19/europe/analysis-putin-trump-phone-call-ukraine-latam-intl For the best part of three years of war, Russia’s state media has been lecturing its audience they are not only in conflict with Ukraine, but also with all of NATO, including the United States. The presidency of Trump has created a small window in which the Kremlin might talk its way into a better position, or even alleviate the pain of some Western sanctions. But it does not change the central calculation or message of the Kremlin: this is an existential war, about re-establishing their pre-eminence in their near abroad. So much pain and loss has been inflicted on the Russian people through staggering war casualties that delivering middling to poor results might significantly limit the longevity of Russia’s leadership. This isn’t a war they can be seen to have lost.

His defense/foreign policy team. Engineering a coordinated NATO response to Russian aggression was no mean feat. Other countries did things I never thought they'd be willing to do, including Sweden's accession.

So you believe that unending Ukrainian aid can defeat Russia without NATO's direct involvement?

So France and Germany are old bad Europe. I assume Great Britain is in that group too. Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania, Croatia, Montenegro, N. Macedonia, Finland and Sweden are new, good Europe. Got it. New Europe is in NATO because they all fear they will be the next Ukraine. I’m pretty sure, they are just fine having France and Germany as allies. Strange how MAGA hates them. Also interesting that most Americans have a much stronger affinity to bad, old Europe than new Europe.

I think Zelenskyy’s move at the moment is to get European troops on the ground in Ukraine and then by treaty, bring the United States regardless of what we want to do, when European troops are attacked. Which is why Trump will seriously consider pulling from NATO if Europe follows through on these reckless threats. The stalemate days seem to be coming to an end.. and we’re either moving closer to peace or to WWIII.

More likely steel, which Russia has no market for, and oil/gas. Just like the cease fire in Black Sea, an area Ukraine controlled, didn't need, but Russia really needed to ship through. Ukraine does not ship through Black Sea. Watch fir trade to begin between Russia and US. Trump will seemingly offer it as a help to bring cease fire. It us more than that. Imagine, punishing Europe, Canada, Mexico, Japan, Korea, India, Australia, Sweden but trading with Russia. When this occurs...the world knows, then 51st state, Greenland anti NATO is real. We are close. Elections are at risk.

I think these are characterizations made by the entrenched left wing globalist politicians and media. I don't agree with a lot of those characterizations. I've seen deliberate misquotes by Trump and his admin. Like adding words he didn't say to make it look like Russia deserves the land they took. That's not what he's saying. He's saying it's unlikely that Ukraine is going to be able to win it back anytime soon. Not that Russia earned it or deserves it. He's being a pragmatic realistic instead of a delusional ideologue. And I think you're reading a lot of things that are being twisted by delusional globalists ideologues. He hasn't abandoned NATO. He's said for the last 10 years that the other NATO countries aren't pulling their own weight. His actions over the last few weeks seem to be motivating the change he thinks needs to happen. That the European NATO allies need to pony up. The nasty talk about the US abandoning NATO, along with the counter threats to abandon the US seem to be coming from the very people that are spiteful about the gravy train being turned off. I don't think Trump is abandoning NATO or Ukraine. I think he's trying to force a cease fire and bring a negotiated end to the war. Ukraine's position so far has been they won't negotiate anything but a 100% return of land. And they will fight in perpetuity to get it back. And they assume that means unlimited US funding indefinitely. Unfortunately for Ukraine, this admin doesn't seem willing to continue to bleed out of our military resources so Ukraine can fight indefinitely. The other part of the delusional ideology of the globalists is this hope that they can replace Putin with a pro-Western liberal. Their lack of ability to perceive reality amounts to failing to understand that if Putin is ousted, the most likely scenario is that Russia will be ruled by far more sinister forces. Those itching to unleash their nuclear arsenal on Ukraine and NATO allies supporting the Ukrainian war effort. So I read Trump's pressure on Zelensky and Ukraine as a means to force them to the negotiating table in order to prevent escalation, and to bring peace before this turns into a full blown regional war outside the borders of Ukraine. Which, if you listen to the globalists, is what they say the fighting in UKraine is all about. Keeping the fighting there so it doesn't expand to the rest of Europe. Trump's trying to end the fighting in Ukraine before it rages into something much larger.

When do we stand up to a backwards, pathetic nation like Russia and say “no?” Allowing Ukraine into NATO will do so. Finland was admitted with no problems. If we cede Donbas, they’re just going to invade again down the line. Why does Trump see Russia as anything but an antagonist? He’s more open to them for free trade than Canada!

russia wants to continue its land grab and will. trump actually admires this and is proposing the same for America (greenland, panama, canada). a Nuclear war has been a threat since ww2. What's kept it at bay is NATO and the western alliance of multiple democratic countries especially the US. trump has turned that upside down and made it appear that the only hope of stopping it is appeasing russia. and you're buying it.

I grew up in Buffalo, and yes, I remember them being good people. I haven't lived there since I joined the army in 91, and stayed in Middle Tennessee when I retired in 14, so I can't speak first hand as to the economic impact on Western New York, nor is it my concern. More my concern is the year over year influx of people moving down here at a greater rate than our infrastructure and first responders can keep up with. It's logical to a degree that the WNY economy may take a hit, it's also logical that Canadians living close to the border who regularly did thier shopping in WNY will continue to do so because its still cheaper and its human nature to want to spend less, especially if they're struggling to make ends meet, ideals be damned. As I said, and you agree with according to your first paragraph, I don't fault Canada for prioritizing healthcare over NATO, nor did I say anything derogatory about the people who live in Canada. You obviously disagree with my opinion that the relationship between Canada and the US is not balanced, that's okay, I still talk to you in a civil manner. Calling me ignorant and pathetic because I don't share your view is no way to change my mind, it only shows you lack intellect and maturity.

Amateur hour at DOD 🥃 🍷🍸 https://www.mediaite.com/news/pete-hegseth-roasted-over-huge-fck-up-and-clean-up-on-ukraine-negotiations-amateur-hour/ Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth raised eyebrows on Thursday when he walked back some of his comments on Ukraine from the day prior, specifically ruling out Ukraine joining NATO. Nick Schifrin, PBS’s foreign affairs and defense correspondent, reported on Hegseth’s comments during a presser at the NATO summit in Brussels. Schifrin wrote on X, “BREAKING: @SecDef walks back his statement yesterday that a negotiated settlement is not likely to end with Ukraine in NATO.” He then quoted Hegseth, a former Fox News morning show host, saying: These negotiations are led by Donald Trump. Everything is on the table. In his conversations with Vladimir Putin and Zelensky, what he decides to allow or not allow, is at the purview of the leader of the free world–President Trump. So I’m not going to stand at this podium and declare what President Trump will do or won’t do, what will be in or what will be out, what concessions will be made or what concessions are not made. Hegseth made news on Wednesday by declaring “we must start by recognizing that returning to Ukraine’s pre-2014 borders is an unrealistic objective” and arguing that Ukraine joining NATO was not likely. Many pundits and observers slammed Hegseth after he walked back the comments, arguing that he had given up leverage to Russia without gaining any concessions.

So, President Musk, acting as a Russian proxy, berates Ukraine and its supporters while rallying against NATO; naturally, blames the country under Russian bombardment. No surprise that MAGA followers accept this without question. What Really Happened With the DDoS Attacks That Took Down X | WIRED Elon Musk said a “massive cyberattack” disrupted X on Monday and pointed to “IP addresses originating in the Ukraine area” as the source of the attack. Security experts say that’s not how it works.

I couldn't agree with you more on the merits of that approach. But this scenario is all based on an assumption the European States are interested in reaching a peaceful settlement rather than continuing the war, escalating it by sending more weapons and their own troops to join the fighting, all with the express intent shared by Zelensky and European leaders of drawing American forces directly into the conflict though some invocation of NATO Article 5. I would say publicly let them go ahead and "own" the outcome but behind the scenes I would warn them that if their intentions are not genuine and they decide to directly engage in the conflict rather than pursue some negotiated settlement America will stop all monetary and all physical support, things like weapons, intelligence, and logistics, and withdraw from NATO and move our troops out of Europe. I might add, at this point in the process I don't trust Zelensky and the European leaders any more than I trust Putin.

Trumps actions in office are a dream scenario for Putin. He couldn’t expect anything better as Trump turns America towards an alliance with Russia over our traditional western allies. What is amazing to watch is how the rest of the Republicans along with MAGA have become obedient sheep and seem just fine with abandoning our NATO allies and other democracies in the world. The vets from WWII, who are nearly all gone must be rolling in their graves. It’s to the point now where he is either an agent for Putin or he is doing a very good job of acting like one who is.

he's losing. other than other countries funding more of NATO and the UN, I don't see much evidence that we are going to win a trade war in terms of inflation, unemployment, gdp, wall street and individual incomes. i would replace "tactless" with "crazy" and his strategy is completely ungrounded in accepted economic principles. He's no where near bright enough to reinvent the wheels of global commerce. for my personal sake, I hope i'm wrong but I can't imagine this all ending well. he's already backtracking under pressure from wall street. stop the pretense. you're a trumper. And you're part of a shrinking minority who still support his lunacy. your position on nearly every issue aligns with the maga influencers. interestingly, the influencers positions almost always align with each other.

I think the idiot’s rants on Canada and Greenland are about his strategy to destroy NATO. Offend the NATO allies so much to make the international politics toxic and destroy the relations moving forward.

Here's an alternative hypothesis. Russia invaded Ukraine due to real national security threats that they take seriously. Threats born in the Obama administration, carried out under Hillary Clinton's State Department. So the real guarantee of peace is removing the threats to Russia. No NATO for Ukraine. No missile defense systems East of the Dnipro. And a DMZ buffer zone between Russia and Ukraine. Now to the issue of the allies not trusting the US. They're liberal globalist leaders are parroting Democrat talking points. Don't care.

I think that as long as trump is in power, that's where we are headed. Europe doesn't trust trumpski. I don't think Canada or Mexico do or most of the rest of the world at this point. he'll likely withdraw from NATO anyway. Our strongest alliance then becomes the one with the murderous, barbaric russian regime. here's some Bman or NC level sensationalist journalism but if even part is correct, it explains much of what we are seeing. https://www.mind-war.com/p/stop-being-shocked

Trump if he has influence will sell his son the give Putin access to Crimea and Black Sea. Putin will gain something for sure, the questions are, 1, can a deal be struck to stop Putin from invasion again next year, 2, does Moscow get their money back from sanctions, literally billions. 3, does EU continue boycott of Russian gas and oil, 4, does US remain in NATO, or start doing business with Putin.

Zelenskyy just secured a 2.7 billion dollar loan from the UK, so that will help keep this going another 5-10 days. As for the question above of what does Russia want? From what I’ve heard, it’s to keep the Donbas & Crimea, along with a reduction in the Ukrainian military and for the West to stop flirting with Ukraine/NATO membership. At which point Russia would then shift efforts towards installing a pro-Russia leader to replace Zelenskyy in their next election.