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1) Butch Byrd (and it isn't close) 2) Charles Romes 3) Terrence McGee 4) Nate Odomes 5) Robert James Honorable mentions: Tre White, Mario Clark, Nate Clements, Booker Edgerson

Antoine Winfield Tre White Nate Odomes Nate Clements At least during my time actively watching since the late 80s

As far as a complete career with the Bills, I'm giving it to Nate Odomes. Nate was solid throughout his 7 year stint. Winfield was never spectacular with us but played better as a Viking. McGee had 2 solid seasons in 04 & 05. And Tre had easily the greatest single season (2019) of any Bills CB. Benford is a good cb but needs more improvement in play making. James & Byrd deserve props for their play in that era. I never saw Byrd Sr play and vaguely remember James. All eyes were on 32.

I’ve seen them all. I’d say Robert James. Here’s my top 5: Robert James Tre White Nate Clements Nate Odoms Booker Egerson

I think this one is a tough one with many potential answers. I don't know maybe....Nate Odomes? Winfield was great but only here a few years. Same with Clements. Terrence McGee potentially ahead of Odomes?

Real talk. Nate Peterman's 5 picks in 2 quarters.

That's a coaching cliche--doesn't exist. I get there a lot of posters who suddenly are trying to create a bit of Milton myth because he took a meaningless game off the Bills that they were actively attempting to lose, but this kid never "tempered any of the QBs ahead of him over 6 years in 2 Power 5 programs. No sane person present would view Milton vs Maye in a NE training camp as a legitimate "QB competition". Did Nate Peterman "temper" Josh in his rookie year? lol

Why are they behind the worst team in the NCAA? They won 30 games this year. Plus a post season tournament. Wouldn't that put them somewhere in the Top 25? UB games are a bargain. If you bought them on the phone from the Athletic office, you'd only play $10 each. And parking is free! Except the portal usually means your team will be totally different next year. I'm holding my breath to see what happens to this team. Does coach Becky Burke leave for a power conference, like Nate Oats did? How many players get poached?

Just curious... How do you know what Carrol thinks? Carroll has won more Super Bowls than all 21 Bills head coaches combined. He's also won more college national championships than the combined total of the UB Bulls' 28 head coaches. I personally don't think Pete's "mental competence" is really an issue - despite GB's concern with his age. I also suspect he went after Geno because Josh (or Pat, Joe, etc.) wasn't available. When you go to the store and the shelves are empty, you take what you can get. And let's not forget Geno threw for more yards with a higher completion percentage than Allen last year. Geno's not MVP material but he's not Nate Peterman either.

Unfortunately I don't have any other names that I feel strongly about. I had never gotten information from the guy that initially mentioned William Kyle, but that name was so out of left field that I felt like he couldn't be making it up. Nate Kingz and Dishon Jackson are the other two names he said to keep an eye on and then the buzz around Kingz came in shortly after that. Haven't heard anyone else corroborate Dishon but still keeping an eye on that one given the guy's track record out of nowhere lol. Desmond Claude was a name that someone else mentioned to me and they've been reliable in the past. I don't think Claude has entered the portal yet though.

Nate kingz has committed He has had a weird basketball journey

He did a game on Christmas last year. It was overshadowed by how incredibly awful Nate Burleson was. It was SO hard to listen to. JJ Watt wasn't very good either, though. They probably mentioned Russel Wilson needed to use his legs more at LEAST 30 times. My one fear is JJ doing Steeler games often. He talked about his brother far too often. I remember Burleson actually said: "That run had me feeling some type of way" as commentary. It was brutal.

Apparently some buzz that we're talking to Nate Kingz, sharpshooter from Oregon State and Dishon Jackson, big man from Iowa State.

I wonder who CBS will get to replace Watt in the studio with. Also, James Brown is getting up there. I wouldn't be surprised if he retires soon, and Nate Burleson takes over as host.

Mike Williams, Marcell Dareus, JP Losman, EJ Manuel, Aaron Maybin, Leodis McKelvin, CJ Spiller, Donte Whitner, Erik Flowers, John McCargo, Sammy Watkins. These 11 guys were drafted by the Bills in the first round of the drought era. They were either flat out busts or they were players they didn’t come close to being as good as their draft spot. Winfield doesn’t count because he was drafted in 99 the last year we were in the playoffs if you want to get technical. The other guys Nate Clements, Marshawn Lynch, Lee Evans, Willis McGahee, Eric Wood, Stephon Gilmore were good NFL players so 6 guys but…. They did re-sign Eric Wood Stephon Gilmore hated Buffalo and became the #1 paid CB in the league. Same thing happened for Nate Clements if I recall correctly minus the hatred of Buffalo They did re-sign Lee Evans who was a very good NFL player for a short period and the Bills have been well documented they they wanted Ben Roethlisberger badly which led to the ill fated Losman pick. Marshawn Lynch thought Buffalo was boring and hit a woman while driving so he wanted out of here. Cant recall why the Bills let McGahee go but overall during the drought they had 11 terrible picks and 6 good ones. 2 RBs, 2 DBs, 1 WR, and a Center. They reupped two of them , 2 couldn’t wait to get out of here, 2 became the highest paid player at his position (Clements), and 1 I don’t recall. So yes the Bills drought did last so long because they drafted terrible and B. Couldn’t find a QB

The draft is literally a crap shoot because highly rated draft picks crash and burn while great players come out of Day 2 or 3 in every draft, and good teams miss just like bad teams. I disagree that the Bills drafting was the reason why the Bills had the playoff drought. It was more a consequence of the team philosophy which always put maximizing profits ahead of winning football games, even during the Glory Years. Bill Polian was fired because he clashed with the finance guys in the 1990s. John Butler (and a significant part of the Bills pro personnel department) left for San Diego because the Chargers offered him more money. During the Drought, the Bills never re-signed their first rounders who did develop into good/great players except for Eric Wood -- most notably, Antoine Winfield, Nate Clements, Willis McGahey, Marshawn Lynch, Stephon Gillmore -- although they did keep some two who became notable busts after signing their second contracts: Mike Williams and Marcell Dareus. Under Tom Donahoe and especially Russ Brandon/Buddy Nix/Doug Whaley regimes, the Bills continually allowed their best players to leave in FA or via trade and used the draft to find replacements. FYI -- Tre White was the first first-round pick who developed into an outstanding player whom the Bills re-signed since the 1990s. He was drafted as a replacement for Stephon Gilmore whom the Bills allowed to hit FA (and helped the Patriots win SBs). I don't judge rookies. Some players who look terrible as rookies develop into good/great players. Others who look like good/great NFLers in their first season never ever play that well again. I'm a believer in giving rookies three years to show who they are, especially if they play a position which has a longer learning curve than some other positions. DT is certainly one of those positions.

He also had just under 1,000 yards in 2022 despite playing under Nate Hackett and Russell Wilson. I was banging the drum to trade for him back in 2023 when the thought was it would take a 2nd. I remember saying even a 1st I would have been fine with if that's what it took, which in hindsight would have been a much better use of that pick than Kincaid. The fact that he went for a 5th and 6th last year, and got less than the combined AAV of Samuel and Palmer, that was a no brainer to me. Every year we overpay for defensive linemen but when really good or great WRs become available we get gun shy. I really don't get it, but I guess I'm on the extreme end of the WR discussion compared to most fans.

Really??? How much game film do you watch? How many times have you seen Benford get burned or even targeted over the years? I don't watch film but trust the guys who do like Joe Marino, Nate Tice, Bruce Nolan and Robert Mayes. Those guys all think he's somewhere in the range of really good to Elite. Benford's camp was smart to hold out. His price range is probably somewhere between $25-$30m AAV

wouldn’t a signed Nate Peterman jersey be better . remind Josh of his humble beginnings when Nate “won” the starting job and then lost it

I understand your point, but come on Nate Clements was drafted 24 seasons ago and McKelvin 17 seasons ago. Aaron Williams was a safety. Given that the Bills play 3 CBs almost all of the time, that list seems pretty light to me. Please don’t get me wrong - I’m not pounding the table to take a CB, but they pretty much have to take 1 early this year and probably another later.

can you imagine a worse room than Arthur smith, Aaron Rodgers and Nate hackett?

Yup, solid logic. Every contender needs a QB. Through the drought years the Bills had some good teams that just needed a QB. Going through some old Bills stuff this weekend I ran across a 2003 season calendar. They had some great players on that team but Bledsoe crapped out as the season progressed and they finished 6-10. 9-7 the next season. No playoffs. On the team: Pat Williams Travis Henry Nate Clements Eric Moulds Ruben Brown Antoine Winfield London Fletcher Brian Moorman Aaron Schobel I'd take every one of those guys today w/Allen or Allen with that 2003 roster and the Bills are pretty good.

Ware would be Nate Peterman to Peete's Tom Brady

The 2002 Bills had a QB who had started in the Super Bowl, Drew Bledsoe. He made the Pro Bowl that season because he threw for more than 4300 yards and 24 TDs despite being sacked 54 times. Unfortunately, the Bills didn't have a defense. It ranked 27th despite having Nate Clemens, London Fletcher, Pat Williams, and Antoine Winfield SR on the roster. Bledsoe threw for nearly 3000 yards and 20 TDs. With Willis McGahey at RB, the Bills offense ranked #7. The 2004 Bills again had no defense -- they ranked 25th-- despite having Sam Adams, Nate Clemens, London Fletcher, Takeo Spikes, and Pat Williams. In the final game of the year, the Bills blew their chance at the playoffs by losing to the Steelers' backups, 29-24, and it wasn't really that close. They allowed UDFA rookie Willie Parker to run for 102 yards on 19 carries. Josh Allen would have been a bust if he had been on any of the teams fielded by the Bills during Jauron's stint as HC. He would have been benched for Captain Check Down, Trent Edwards, because Allen would have tried too hard to win games. Jauron's aim was always to not lose by too much.

In honor of Tommy Doyle’s retirement, here are some notable picks that went after him in the 5th round (#161) of the 2021 draft: #162: TE Noah Gray (KC) #167: CB Nate Hobbs (LV) #168: TE Zach Davidson (MIN) #172: CB Deommodore Lenoir (SF) #173: DT Tedarrell Slaton (GB) #175: S Jason Pinnock (NYJ) #180: S Talanoa Hufanga (SF) What a lucky round for the 49ers and a tough break for the Bills.