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I don't think it has much to do with Coleman himself. It's been known since the draft that Hollins would get a significant amount of playing time. Until MVS was signed out of desperation, Hollins was the only player on the roster to have received a majority of his snaps outside in the NFL. I don't know if he is ahead of Coleman in the coaching staff's mind or vice versa, but both are going to get a lot of playing time outside because they are the only real options we have there. And yes it represents a massive failure of this regime to have a 2nd round rookie and a journeyman JAG as the primary outside receiving options in the prime of Allen's career. Much like this regime did when they drafted Allen, they have drafted a raw physical talent that was known to need a development track and are instead throwing him into the deep end of the pool because they've left themselves no other options. If Hollins ends up in front of Coleman on the opening depth chart, that isn't any more concerning than Nate Peterman opening the season ahead of Allen on the depth chart in 2018.

if a preseason hero is your trade target goal, why not go after Nate Peterman?

"Why is this board so negative?" Wide Right - SB 25 loss Lost Helmet - SB 26 loss Epic beat down by the Cowboys - SB 27 loss Lead at halftime, then man handled by the Cowboys in the second half - SB 28 Loss Music City Miricle 17 year playoff drought GMs - Tom Donahoe, Marv Levy brought back, Doug Waley, Russ Brandon, Buddy Nix Coaches - Dick Jauron, Greg Williams, Mikke Mularkey, Doug Marrone, Chan Gailey, Rex Ryan QBs - Ej Manuel, Jp Losman, Trent Edwards, Kelly Holcomb, Billy Joe Hobert, Todd Collins, Alex Van Pelt, Nate Peterman, Rob Johnson, Doug Flutie, Drew Bledsoe, Kyle Orton, Tyrod Taylor Leodis McKelvin fumbled the ball Monday Night, in Buffalo, with 6 take aways - Bills lose Hail Mary to Hopkins Chiefs beat down Bills - AFCCG Loss 13 Seconds - AFC Divisional Round Loss Bengals - AFC Divisional Round Loss Chiefs again - AFC Divisional Round Loss ....There is more but, need I go on?

The Raiders waived him so they can re-sign Nate Peterman.😃

Jeff Tuel and Nate Peterman also dominated in second halves of preseason games.

You have to wonder if they will. Trumps 2016 and 2020 results were due to good turn outs and huge rallies. Is there a correlation between Trumps rally sizes and his voter turn out? If so, it’s looking bleak for Trump. Also a good analysis on this polls weighting: The partisan split was 29D/29R/29I (for all adults, unclear what that ended up being for RV/LV). They weighted on 2020 recalled vote, among other common things. This is generally seen as a way to capture the "hidden Trump voters" to try to avoid a repeat of the 2020 polling error (though its effectiveness is disputed). Weighting on recalled vote often has the effect of underrepresenting voters who voted for the winning candidate last time. Nate Cohn said that half of non-voters from 2020 now tell them they voted, and people are more likely to falsely recall voting for the winner. If they had weighted on recalled vote in 2020 they would have underestimated Trump by even more. It’s possible that this effect cancels out other errors, but the direction of the effect is definitely to underrepresent Biden voters

Cooper Rush, Davis Mills, Tyson Bagent, Ryan Tannehill, Nate Sudfeld and maybe tommy devito etc they are into trubisky for nearly 3 million this year so he is not going anywhere unfortunately

Nate Geary had stats on WGR this morning. Allen attempted 17 passes inside the 5 yard line with 7 TD passes. He did have 15 rushing TD's and you expect the majority of them to be at the goal line. This is why I don't think this stat means much. We still usually scored.

Sean McDermott started Nate Peterman over Tyrod Taylor and Josh Allen. No wonder he passed on Mahomes. He's a terrible QB evaluator. Thank god for Bean.

Yup, there is always more than one path to success, Nate is a multi millionaire with a job he likes, I think he is getting the last laugh. Nate has been an easy target to bash on from a Bills perspective, but it’s been years since he was here, time to let the animosity go, jmo.

Ok, now TE matters. Got it 👍🏻 at least you know when you purposely move the goal poasts. whatever suits your agenda at the moment. Per usual. maybe if we had Nate Washington, Steve Breaston and Harry Douglass we’d be contenders. edit- maybe we’ll get lucky and the panthers will cut Jordan Matthews!! He’s eclipsed the elusive 852 twice in his career! 🙏🏻

Bills should have brought him back. Why sign Dinucci when you can have Nate ? It would have been like the prodigal son returning. Huge miss by Beane

No Dems are freaking out. Actually today was an awesome day so far: - republicans pull out of the Ohio Senate Race - 538 avgs update and have Harris winning. - Bullfinch polls come out showing Harris with big leads in the 3 states she needs - poll out that Harris is making Maine 2nd district competitive - Harris now 51/46 over Trump on Polymarket - Harris now 59/44 over Trump on Predictit - Nate Silver now has Harris winning PA, MI and WI with his averaging (those 3 win Harris the election) - Harris just 0.8 down to Trump in PA once that turns, RCP has Harris winning Overall, Harris is dominating. I think as each new poll comes out, the best part is the lead keeps increasing. So we haven’t seen her plateaued yet in the polls. We haven’t even seen her convention bump yet!!! Trump has 1 scheduled rally up ahead. The campaign is low energy and enthusiasm is dropping. So no. I’m not freaking out. None of my Dem friends are freaking out. No one on this board is freaking out. Jubilation may be a good word for how Dems are. Crap…. Forgot this news too and great way of Kamala to own Trump yet again:

Nate. Peterman.

The crazy thing with this is if you flip PA to blue, Harris wins. RCPs avg has Trump +.8, 538 has Harris +1.1, Nate Silver has has +1.3, Polymarket has Harris 56/44. So thanks for that map! Makes me feel great that for everyone else, Harris is winning. For RCP she’s just within .8 percent of winning it all. Go Kamala!!!

In the 2020s, people say roughly the same about Nate Hackett. 🤔

lol you’re wrong. In poll aggregators: - 538 has Harris +1.8 https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/ - Nate Silver has Harris +1.9 https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model - RCP has Harris +.5 https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris The last National Poll with Trump in the lead was July 26-29 in a 5 way. The same poll had Harris up 1 on 1. I can’t find any poll or poll aggregators that have Trump up 3-5 points nationally.

Harris leading with Nate Silvers projection for the first time: From your CBS poll some really concerning Trump numbers: - Increase in Dem likely voters and drop in R. - Gigantic increase in the black likely voters with a huge swing towards Harris: - Women overwhelmingly think Harris policies will help them more than Trump: Probably the worst in the poll is Trump will not win if half the country things he doesn’t have the cognitive health to serve as President.

good for Nate. still getting paid to do what he loves. hes been through a lot, and hes doing better than 95% of the world.

Kamala ahead in the polls under Nate Silver’s averaging: https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model

I hate to pop a bubble in the bubble you live in. But doing things like ignoring Nate Silver because you don’t like what he says, ignoring how national polls are going because you don’t like what they say. Ignoring and disregarded basically anything you don’t like or that doesn’t hit in your narrative is ridiculous. JD Cance has one of the worst approval ratings for a VP in history. This isn’t me telling you that because it’s how I feel. It’s me telling you what polls of American are saying. Your Vance Bubble thing is what you’re living in if you think he’s liked outside of a subset of the Republican Party. Heres a good write up by the Hill as well giving Republican senators view of Vance: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4799235-trump-vance-republican-senators-divided/amp/ But go ahead and live in your bubble. Im just hoping hearing different perspectives and seeing how polling is trending real time will make you understand this election wasn’t stolen and that the signs were all there for another Trump loss.

Hey Nate Silver - ask Harris to actually start playing

Great analysis by Nate:

Founded in 2020, Polymarket has raised a total of $70 million from investors including Peter Thiel's Founders Fund (which was an early investor in CoinDesk's parent company Bullish) and Ethereum creator Vitalik Buterin. not sure Nate is ummm impartial.

(apologies in advance for the tangent) Respectfully, I only would agree to the extent as it applies to the successes. I would argue that there are plenty of cases, QBs in particular, where a player's future failure can be attributed to the poor quality of the coaching provided to them. EJ Manual is (in my opinion anyway) a case in point. When you consider the circumstances, it was almost like there was a conspiracy against the kid: (correct me if I'm mistaken on the details). High character kid with great physical tools and a legacy relationship to Buffalo Trade-down and Drafted as a "project" intended to sit and learn under a more experienced hand (i.e. a perfect mentor - Fitz). Buddy is "punked" by TB radio station and Fitzpatrick is cut loose. Kolb is signed as the "bridge" to mentor EJ. EJ injured in preseason, but then forced into duty week 1 when Kolb suffers a career-ending mat injury (I swear, you can't make this stuff up) in August of preseason. The QB room is EJ, Thad Lewis, Tuel. A QB known to have "slow eyes" (thereby needing all the time possible to read defenses) and in need of improved mechanics - Nate Hackett puts him in a up-tempo, no-huddle, read-option-like offense. After seeing a hint of success, he gets injured in Cleveland, and has to run said offense without being allowed the "run" option. Over the next two years, Marrone and Hacket fiddly-fart around with both the offense and the QB position, eventually settling on (for the love of the Lord) Kyle Orton. The regime changes, and Rex comes in - buttsore over Mark Sanchez, and spoiling to prove to the world that he can win without a quarterback. Enter Tyrod. Bye-bye EJ. I'm not saying that EJ could have been Josh under different circumstances, but I am saying I definitely believe Josh could have been EJ under similar circumstances - which to a large degree was coaching and organizational management . I would argue that virtually any rookie QB brought in under these circumstances would fail (Steve Young in Tampa for example).