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So is this the Edmunds pick?....it was always slated at 99?

yeah they got ran over. The whole defense really sucked. Would've been nice to have been in a shootout. Here's Jackson Carman absolutely posterizing Edmunds. I used to have this in gif form.

So now we are listening to PFF again? The formula for when to follow their grading is probably as complex as the NFL explaining how Edmunds wasn't a 3rd round comp pick.

Yeah there was an edge defender list recently where they had Rousseau ranked VERY highly. I chose not to interject/link it because so many people hate PFF. But PFF loves Rousseau. And the reason is that he gets a lot of what qualifies as pressure while maintaining his responsibility in run defense/contain. What fans see is that he hasn't been finishing enough plays. That's what needs to happen for him to cross over from misunderstood to a star. I suppose one could have said the same thing about Edmunds to some extent........but there was a large group of homers who went out of their way to promote a narrative about Tremaine that wasn't true(that he made it impossible for teams to throw over the middle when, in fact, teams were often throwing right at him).

Yea he seems to understand how everything else worked out but still be confused on how the 9ers (Jimmy G) and the Bills (Edmunds) didn't get 3rd rounders.

@Kirby Jackson, prepare to be disappointed IMO. Right or wrong to do it, looking at Beane and his history of round 1 suggests otherwise. Even his three largest moves to date (Diggs, Allen, Edmunds) are not even close to the level of this kind of monumental deal. He’s been historically more likely to move slightly in RD1. I’d be very surprised to see this happen and get to #4. Pair this with the cards reportedly asking for 3 #1’s….i just don’t see it.

I certainly hope that Allen was not involved in this pick. That is not his job. If the Bills picked Coleman because Allen wanted him then Beane definitely needs to be fired. My guess is that the involvement by Allen was prefunctory, sort of like King Charles officially has to approve all legislation before it becomes law. Coleman fits the high ceiling low floor profile of most early round Beane picks. Except for the 40 time, he is a freakish athlete whose college stats are not super impressive. Examples include Allen, Edmunds, Brown, Knox, Elam, and Rousseau. They are betting on that can teach him to separate in the pros. Hopefully they are right.

Edmunds just named valedictorian at Sweet Home HS. Here’s to the graduating class of 2024!

How long until they realized they made a mistake with Tremaine Edmunds and award a compensatory pick to NE?

So many variables if we took Mahomes at 10 though as could be debated we'd never gotten a 3rd for Tyrod as doubt Mahomes sits on bench his rookie year here. Also with no White on defense is it what we've seen? Do we still trade up for Edmunds or take another LB? I'll say it. I don't think Patrick Mahomes have the success we've seen him have in KC if we took him instead.

And by jumping ahead of edmunds into the 3rd, the 4th that cancelled out with orlando brown now shifts down and cancels out a 6.

I think we’re going to get answers on McDermott over the next couple seasons. Im interested to see how the rebuild on defense goes. Terrel Bernard’s success kind of made me dig in deeper for McDermott. I mean he literally hand picked that guy to replace Edmunds and every fan and media member thought he was crazy.

Thanks for this. I'd only say that, having seen and heard Coleman for a week now, and seeing what the Bills saw, I seriously doubt that they think they'll have to wait for year three. I'm sure they expect him to move into serious playing time in year one, just like Rousseau, Kincaid, Cook, and others. And I agree with that assessment. He has special physical talent, and he's tuned in to what the position takes. I expect he'll be soaking up information from last week through Labor Day, and the Bills will get him the field in live action pretty quickly. (They started Edmunds from day 1, and he had more to learn than Coleman.)

Ahh the end of summer. Cooler nights, days a little shorter, pre-season games done, and TBD fans losing their SHT over the release of CB6 or RB5. Love it! Hardy was drafted as a returner, that came from McDs mouth. He was meh at best. McD doesn’t like bad decisions and Hardy made a bunch the first 2 games. Also, McD is a DB whisperer. You can question a lot about McD, you can’t question his judgement or coaching of DBs. Yeah, Hardy looked like he had some potential on the outside when he was projected as a slot. He wasn’t close to unseating Lewis or Ingram on the depth chart. Cordington has much better tape as a returner, that’s why he’s here. I suspect Hardy will make the practice squad as we tend to over value our bottom of the roster players and many teams do the same with theirs. Toohill is the 53rd man on the roster and wouldn’t be surprised if he’s gone in the next couple days as we make moves. Evans was the better RB for our offense than Gore Jr which is why they put him on IR to stash him. Gore Jr will not get picked up on waivers and probably end up on our PS. Andreesen is a great story and I think he’s got real potential. He showed more natural instincts than Edmunds did in 5 years. He will be a special teams demon to give him time to develop as a LB. Hope he makes a true Buffalo story for us. Where are all the people who said MVS was getting cut?? He was a roster lock the day he was signed. They will keep him inactive or quiet until mid season. Beane wants to unleash him to make or get through the playoffs since so many of our players disappear come crunch time. Milano being designated to return is a good indicator he may be back for the final push / playoffs.

WR and edge - doesn't matter which comes first No team drafts BPA and certainly Beane does not. Allen, Edmunds, Oliver, Epenesa, Rousseau, Elam, and even Kinciad were all positions of absolute need at the time they were drafted.

Agree. He is nothing special so far. Pick up the option and let him play it out just like Edmunds.

Rousseau would probably be viewed as a good pick by most people. Epenesa took some time, in part due to our staff changing his body, but the way he played last year is - at least - a solid RD2 output for a DE taken late in the round. Edmunds is good, but not elite. Solid pick. Same with Oliver. Very good, not elite. Underwhelming for where he was drafted, but not a miss - and many would view him as a hit. Boogie was a miss and everyone knew it except for our FO apparently. Elam.. I’m still in wait and see mode. Weird situation. I’m willing to see what this year brings as he clearly can play.

Good: Shakir - Picked up where he left off as a dependable slot option that always manages to pick up sneaky YAC. Solomon - He showed flashes including as a run defender which was supposed to be an area weakness. Ray Davis - There wasn't a lot of space to be had in the run game but as a pass catcher I thought he looked right at home. The contact balance showed up. Samuel - Really just the one play but it was good to immediately see the juice he adds to the offense. Explosive plays downfield will be hard to come by this year, we need his YAC skills to show up. Bad: Trubisky - Every ball he throws is half a second or more late. Even the 4th down conversion to Shakir, he was standing wide open for a while and it took Trubisky forever to find him. He airmailed a TD pass to Morris and forced the ball to Coleman twice in the endzone. The interior OL - Pretty much all of our runs were dead on arrival no matter which string was on the field. I'm especially worried about Edwards/McGovern. We're trying to be a ball control offense but we can't open holes in the run game. It's concerning. Even depth players who looked good last year - namely Anderson, Vandemark, and Gouraige - looked worse today. Cook - He went down on first contact every time and was directly responsible for Edmunds getting in Allen's face on a blitz. All the camp reports on him have been negative, hopefully it is all a mirage once the real season starts. MVS - He gets my c'mon man award of the day. The one player you don't want to see drop the ball and he does it on the easiest catch opportunity you'll ever see. I have PTSD from some of the ridiculous drops Allen has dealt with throughout his career, I don't have the stomach for anymore.

I think another interesting comparison might be with the 2021 roster. Despite not making it to the Championship game (as they did in 2020), I think 2021 was the year that we all thought they could/should go on to win it all...probably the best team in the McDermott era to date. Pos 2021 2024 QB Allen, Trubisky Allen, Trubisky RB Singletary, Moss Cook, Davis WRs Diggs Shakir Sanders Samuel Davis Coleman Duke Wiliams Claypool, MVS Kumerow, Hodgins Hollins, Hamler TE Knox Kincaid. Knox LT Dawkins Dawkins LG Feliciano Edwards C Morse McGovern RG Ford Torrence RT Williams Brown So, quarterback is a push. I'm taking Cook and Davis over Singletary and Moss. Diggs wins the #1 WR battle for the 2021 squad, but from there down, I'm taking the 2024 WRs over the 2021 WR corps. Kincaid/Knox is better than Knox/no one. Dawkins is a push. Not much difference between Feliciano and Edwards probably. As of now, Morse wins the center position, but I'm taking Torrence and Brown over Ford and Williams on the right side (although Williams played well in 2021). Pos 2021 2024 LDE Addison Rousseau NT Lotulelei Jones DT Oliver Oliver RDE Hughes Epenesa/Miller WLB Milano Milano MLB Edmunds Bernard SCB Johnson Johnson CB White/Jackson Douglas CB Wallace Benford SS Poyer Rapp FS Hyde Bishop I'm taking Rousseau over Addison, and Daquan over Star. Oliver, Milano, and Taron are all pushes (provided Milano is back to form). I'm taking Epenesa and Miller over Hughes for two reasons, where Jerry was in his career at the time and the hope that Von returns to form---but I could see someone taking the other side on that to. I'm taking Bernard over Edmunds at Mike. And Benford gets the nod over Wallace. Obviously, Hyde and Poyer win the safety battle easy. Then there is Tredavious vs. Rasul. I would give the nod to Tre, but he missed the last 6 games of the year and the two playoff games in 2021, so I'm taking a healthy Rasul over 2021 Tre/Jackson. I honestly do not see any reason why we can't still go on a deep playoff run. The only players I picked from the 2021 squad over the 2024 squad were Diggs, Morse, Poyer, and Hyde. I don't think center will be a problem or that big a drop-off. So, to me, the only major question marks (personnel-wise in comparison to 2021) are can McDermott get the younger safeties up-to-speed? I don't expect them to have the knowledge and rapport of Hyde and Poyer, but are they good enough to keep the drop-off to a minimum and hold their own? And, developing DBs does seem to be a strength for McD, so crossing my fingers. And then, without Diggs, how will the rest of the WR corps handle things? But, with Kincaid in the mix, way better depth, Shakir maturing, and Josh Allen distributing the ball, I really do think we will be fine without Diggs (just mo).

Edmunds is getting younger. They’re similar as both can be versatile. Former CBs, McDermott likes former CBs at safety. Blackmon has more of that dog in him IMO. Leader type. That’s what I wanted here.

Of course, but trading back in the first round isn't Beanes style. He's traded up four times in the first round in six years. Allen, Edmunds, Elam, Kincaid. The fools in Las Vegas have them fourth. I'd say they're a contender.

Tbh, this was the game i gave up on Edmunds. I watched him get pancaked out of the stadium on third and 1 by Jackson Carman after watching Hayden Hurst eat all afternoon in the middle of the field, and I had finally realized the scarecrow sucked.

These are Professional football players... Every single one is oozing with talent All it takes is one guy to understand his situation and seize the reins I wasn't panicked last year either because I knew they had a guy to take the spot... Your number one guy gets all the reps It's hard to improve when you don't get the reps... Bernard and Dodson both are really good football players and one of them were going to pop because they were getting professional treatment ... That was going to Edmunds before Shakir and Samuel are probably going to look two times better because they get practice reps... Then you add in Kincaid and knox who is still a physical freak Our line which is going to be very good... With James Cook and Ray Davis Coleman is going to play well when his number is asked and he's not going to be asked to be a superstar out the gate He's going to be asked to score touchdowns inside the 20

We’ll see…as we know there are no guarantees They only gave out 3 4th rounds this year and Edmunds got more money

When I hear Beane talk about WRs it sounds like McConkey to me. When I think about the athletic profiles that Beane has gone after early (Josh, Edmunds, Rousseau, Oliver, Elam) he loves physical talent with upside. His actions make me think it’s Legette.