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Uhhh … unless I missed something MAGA doesn’t want to supply Ukraine with military aid that Ukraine uses to fight a war of survival against the invading Russians. So, yeah, Putin is happy with you. Oh, and don’t forget NATO. Putin doesn’t like NATO because it’s a check on his expansion into Eastern Europe. Trump doesn’t like NATO. So, again, Putin is happy.

Vance has already said Trump plans to stay in NATO. Also the Ukrane is nothing but a BS money laundering outfit that is costing good people their lives.

So Putin doesn’t want us out of Ukraine and NATO? What does he want? Why interfere with our elections?

His plan far exceeds Ukraine, cancel the UN and 4 people, (China, Russia, India US) rule the world. Without Trump, Nato is useless.

She is going to continue to support NATO and Ukraine, that's pretty clear.

Listening to Katy Kay and Scaramucci’s podcast. They asked what Putin desires for America. I’ll start with the most obvious: He wants us out of NATO. What else?

It would be something if western or Nato trainers at that training facility.

He's been doing that without provocation. When has he attacked a NATO country after any of those moves?

the whole world is at risk because of his buddy, Putin. Oh, and Netanyahu. How do you think trump ends the war in Ukraine quickly? He capitulates to Putin putting Europe and NATO at great risk. yes, I pray. But I don't believe in predestination. Many MAGAs do but probably don't understand the significance or implications.

Conald is telling Vlad that he can launch an attack on a NATO country without facing any repercussions. Trump is once again fervently calling for more Russian interference in our 2024 election. It was NEVER a hoax.

Wasn't NATO. Was Ukraine that suffered. Maybe I missed the other red lines. I don't want to see Kiev a parking lot

Trump was a Putin puppet and trying to destroy NATO. Don't you know that's why Putin didn't invade Ukraine when he was President and no new wars started?

Trump shooting himself in the foot again. Question about Afghanistan (a Trump strong point!) and he interrupts about making NATO pay.

our ally and member of NATO? If they were attacked, we would have to?

So our allies in NATO got stronger during his previous 4 years but you believe that during this time frame things will become horrible. You're a moron.

Biden‘s weakness and insistence they join NATO were catalysts. Yes.

Names being kicked about: - Josh Shapiro, to help in PA - James Stavridis (former NATO commander) to help with foreign policy/defense credentials - Mark Kelly, to help in AZ Who'd you like to see?

So anyone still think Russia has the ability to invade a NATO country? Didn't think so.

Victor Davis Hanson: The Ordeal and Triumph of Mr. Netanyahu 28 Oct, 2024 Netanyahu's actions have neutralized more Western adversaries responsible for decades of bloodshed than NATO, the CIA, FBI, or Interpol, combined, yet he’s often met with rebuke rather than gratitude. https://amgreatness.com/2024/10/28/the-ordeal-and-triumph-of-mr-netanyahu/ .

I just said it. He wants the US out of the picture. They've been trying to sow discord in the US for decades. I've been saying this since about the time the Ukraine war entered its 4th month with no end in sight. He has no chance to invade another country, much less a NATO one.

Damn. Maybe ukraine can beat Russia strait up. Na, never mind. That's Western/nato weapons and air support.

I can see we’re already back to the MAGA nonsense and Trump hasn’t even been inaugurated. I highly doubt that the grain farmers in Ukraine who seek self-determination and the freedom not to be overrun by another country are actually complicit in a national money laundering scheme. And, in any event, assuming Trump shares your view, that is precisely why Putin his happy with Trump’s win. Now he’s likely to have latitude to take care of that “money laundering” problem once and for all. Vance did say, on Trump’s behalf, that Trump plans to stay in NATO. But Trump says a lot of stuff that’s BS. (e.g., repeal and replace, Mexico will pay for the wall, father of IVF, etc.). Do you believe somebody with that distant of a relationship with the truth gets the benefit of the doubt? I don’t, especially given his attitude toward NATO during his first term.