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Remember when Whaley was pushing working with EJ Manuel as a prerequisite for taking the Bills job just two years ago. Yes - let's him have a major role in picking the next coach.

Sounds like the 49ers situation when they hired tomsula. They wanted a controllable, yes man in charge of the team. Trust me. If Whaley and Brandon are involved with hiring the next coach, it will be someone who is somewhat obscure but with marketable qualities. Like an Anthony Lynn or Jim Bob Cooter. Someone who will be grateful for the job and not question there decisions.

Joke franchise is a joke. Nothing to see here.

This was rumored to happen with the bills when we signed Rex.

The problem with letting go of Gilmore for the comp pick is that we also need to lose more guys than we pick up. I'm not sure yet how many guys we are losing to FA, but we are not filling all or holes in the draft.

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Ryan coaches a complex defensive system. The decision makers assumed that our players would be able to transition well. They did not. His nickel and dime defenses usually require 2 very good, instinctual safeties of which we have none. He regularly would play a 3 safety look on passing downs. We were built as a 43 team. Even Mike Pettine played us mostly in a 43 Under front. Also LB talent matters. They have gotten great production out of Zach Brown and Alexander, two veteran journeyman. IMO that's a credit to Ryan and the defensive staff. But we do not have a great talent at that position. Safety play has been abysmal, as has any attempt to bring in talent at that position. In fact, they have brought in no one of real consequence at this position since Ryan was hired. I think there are better HCs, but I don't think he his holding down our defensive talent.

How does that work if it is an injury that takes him past when the option needs to be picked up? Wouldn't they have to exercise the option if he were to suffer a long term injury?

What about the injury risk?

I was referring to the Ryan firing rumor and that they've already made a determination on tyrod. If that is true, playing him with even the slightest risk of injury is reckless. There is a greater chance that tyrod gets a significant injury than us making the playoffs.

If that rumor is true, there is no way Taylor plays the rest of the season.

I like Kaaya the best so far of the QBs

This is twice now he has released a report like this suggesting that the team had superior talent that the coaching staff is wasting and with a source close to ownership. Sounds like someone is feeding him the info.

"This wouldnt be micro-managing everything, scouring the waiver wire, making every decision, deciding what temperature the coffee should be and all that stuff, La Canfora said. I do think he would be in the building. He would be watching things closely. Hed be making recommendations to ownership. The way Ive heard it is it would be a senior advisory position, come in and see how decisions are being made, seeing what processes are in place, see how theyre getting to some conclusions theyre getting at and give recommendations on what he thinks is the best way to do things, kind seeing whos pulling their weight and maybe whos not and then trying to get a long-term structure in place to be more of a winning franchise. Yeah, we don't need that.

If you look at ANY team that has turned around a consistent losing stretch, they have brought in a strong football guy to steward the operation. Patriots - Parcells, continued by Belichek Jets - Parcells, slow decline since then Seahawks - Holmgren, continued by Carroll Colts - Polian Falcons - Dan Reeves Cardinals - Whisenhunt/basically raided Bill Cowher's Steelers staff. Sorry, we have reached a point where small fixes and tweaks will not suffice. Major changes need to take place.

The only benefit to firing Rex now is if they are going to clean house. It lets them get the jump on vetting GM candidates, talking to college coaches, etc. If they've decided to scapegoat the HC, then they will make him coach the final 3 games.

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Firing Rex and keeping Whaley is so Bills. Whaley has shown nothing that leads me to believe he can make a good decision in the coaching search. His reported pick is 0-13 this year. I know it's the Browns, but that's not a great sign. Meanwhile, they passed on Adam Gase, passed on the Shanahan's, passed on Dan Quinn, and passed on Teryl Austin. They liked Frank Reich(was fired the following season as OC of SD), Hue Jackson (0-13 this year; people already saying he won't last long), and Rex. What a great job. Oh, and Whaley wanted the new coach to try to work with EJ Manuel and was reportedly very high on him during the coaching interview process.

Hire Mike Pettine.

They knew Watkins was hurt. Goodwin has been hurt every year Listenbee was drafted with an injury Salas had a serious knee injury 2 years ago and has been hurt alot Don't need a crystal ball. Should have been better prepared

There were plenty of guys to sign back in the summer when this problem was discussed ad naseum. These guys don't know what they are doing. Every year that Whaley has been at the helm, there is always a position that we seem to be scrambling to fill and find guys during the season. I can understand a rash of injuries one year, but this is a pattern at this point.

People that want a football czar just want a new decision maker making the calls in the Bills front office. Personally, I do not trust Whaley or Ryan to make sound decisions with regards to draft strategy, organizational makeup, and overall team philosophy. I would prefer the "football czar" to simply be our HC a la Pete Carroll in Seattle, with a smart personnel person paired with him. This is somewhat what the Bills have setup, but the two people who have the most say(Whaley and Rex) are not qualified to run an entire organization. And we have no one anywhere in the front office structure that has any extensive experience running a modern football program.

Everything happening now is a direct result of how the Bills (re: Pegula's) assessed and handled the end of the 2014 season. Doug Marrone asked for an extension and was denied, and the Bills incorrectly assumed that this was a team on the cusp of being a playoff team and needed to hire a veteran HC. They overvalued the talent on the team, especially defensively. They did not recognize the need to purge and rebuild a franchise from the top down as was needed, and as many here were calling for during the entire 2014 season. They were offered and encouraged to use consultant help from the NFL in the form of Casserly, Wolf, or Accorsi and said "no, thanks." The Bills now face the prospect of having a very expensive, very average team with a terrible QB making $15 mil per year for the next 2-3 years. It is not completely hopeless, but a complete re-tooling is necessary here. Not to mention the Bills are on the verge of losing a very key defensive piece in Gilmore in favor of keeping Taylor. Very bold decisions are needed here and I doubt our management team is up to the task as their MO has continually been to keep status quo.

There have been plenty of opportunities for Whaley to exert his philosophy of how to build a football team in his time there and he had failed miserably. There are plenty of good talent evaluators out there. There is a great one currently out of a job in Tom Gamble. This organization needs a top CEO type personality a la Pete Carroll, Bill Belichek, Ted Thompson, Andy Reid, or Elway. Whaley is not that person; if he was, the Steelers do not let him leave for a lateral position. Rex is not that person. Rex plus a strong GM = fine Whaley plus an alpha coach = fine Together, they will not work.

I'm right there with you BUT the blueprint for this team was supposed to be a stifling defense combined with a multiple and dominant running game with a QB who doesn't make mistakes. Obviously, this is not how most of us would want the team to be built, but in that paradigm the defense is the part that is vastly underperforming. This brings us back full circle to a talking point that has been beaten to death since Rex took over. His style of defense is outdated as a dominant way to play defense and we severely overvalue our defensive talent. We do not have dominant defensive playmakers a la Denver or Seattle or KC. The scheme itself does not make a dominant defense as can be seen by many other teams who are running a version of this 34 hybrid defense around the league without the best talent like Chicago, Indy, and Baltimore. Kansas City is the only team having success with this style of defense and they have better talent on defense.