cantstopbeastmode

You guys really can believe what you want. I dont know what games you showed up to where McGee personally impressed you with anything other than his reputation. I remember one big deflection in the Denver game and thats it. His interceptions were thrown directly to him(as opposed to Greer's 2 OUTSTANDING interceptions). This could go on all day, but I feel like you guys just listen to ESPN. Some of you guys thought Marshawn was a bust early on, you think Whitner should be cut b/c of stats, you think Evans is overpaid cuz of his stats, you think so many things because of what you see other teams doing on ESPN. McGee didn't do anything to impress us this year, whether ESPN thinks so or not. He got beat plenty of times, though.

People like you are the true morons. Was lets go bills suggesting that we sign McAlister to a 3 year, 89 million dollar contract to be our best defensive player since Bruce Smith? Obviously not. If we can sign McAlister for 1-2 mil a year and have him play some nickel/dime and groom guys like McKelvin/Corner, is it worth it? Hell yeah. So.....your the moron.

I think your wrong. Teams regularly picked on McGee. McKelvin proved to me that he's better.

What scientific research is necessary? If you consider yourself an alcoholc, and you don't want to be one anymore, then stop grabbing your bottle. Thats it

And then we can still have the corners give 8 yard cushions and have the safeties play 47 yds deep in soft zone coverages and we can lose every single division game again!

1- Revis/Greer 3-McKelvin 4-McGee

McGee? He's the 3rd best corner on the 4th best team in the AFC East.

Maybin would be great. Everyone said Freeney was too small for a 4-3 DE. I believe he won a SB starting at DE... On a side note for the guy who said ppl would just run at him every down, don't teams do that anyway? GET ME A !@#$ING PASSRUSH.

Thank you! I always hate smoking "quitters." Your not actually quitting if you're still smoking. Sure, you may be addicted, but if you quit, you quit. All you have to do is not buy them anymore. The act of buying them itself shows you simply aren't a quitter.

Well said with the Cowboys/Pats reference. Fully agreed. Have been saying this for some time now.

You're on board. Sadly, many others disagree. Plus, I feel like Dick never actually sees he has talent, he just lucks into it. Greer, Jackson, Scott, etc. I still feel like they underrapreciate Greer and overappreciate McGee. If McGee never made the Pro Bowl returning kicks, you guys would think of him as a great mid-round pick that isn't of starting caliber. Kinda like Ellison, but maybe a little better. Instead we all saw him on ESPN a few times and think that makes him a great corner.

We let HIM go?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? WAY TO DROP THE BALL RALPH. I think he's easily our best cover guy and if he goes on a team where he can play in man coverage he'll look like a star, make the pro bowl, and all of our fans will be calling it an idiot move that we let him go. This is all IF we let him go. The thread on how he's not even mentioned in Clayton's article is what got me thinking this way. The sad thing about all of this, though, is that most of you guys are okay with him leaving, since he's our 3rd best cornerback. FALSE. Wait 2 years and you'll all be saying Ralph's the dumbest piece of sh-- ever, even though right now you're fine with it.

Some people saying Thomas Jones is better than Marshawn Lynch, due to stats. More YPC and more TDs obviously means that Jones is the better player, at least to some of you. Well today they're on the same field, running behind the same line, and Lynch will look better. I bet his YPC are better today than Jones'. Lynch is clearly a much better player. Just wanted to throw this out there before the game started. I understand its just the pro bowl and nobody really cares, but nonetheless, its all we have to go by.

Kenwick??????

WHy are you saying he could charge at least double 3 mil and then saying it comes out to 29 mil? Double means multiply by 2, not 8. Plus the people in Toronto didn't even go to their one game.

I fully agree with all of your posts here. The only thing I might disagree with is the idea that the players dislike Jauron. I really do think they like him. I couldn't begin to tell you why, but they seem to genuinely like him. That pisses me off just about as much as anything.

I keep reading on here about how what the team really needs is this or that. If we had Kurt Warner, we'd be in the playoffs. If we didn't trade for JP, we could have Bob Sanders. If we had "difference makers," maybe we'd have a chance. YOU GUYS WILL NEVER GET IT. Look at our favorite division rival, the Patriots. They lost THE BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE in week one and substituted him with A GUY WHO HASN'T STARTED SINCE HIGH SCHOOL. They lost their first rd rb and beat us with BenJarvus Green Ellis. People say that great players can overcome poor coaching but not vice versa. NO. ITS THE EXACT OPPOSITE. If some of you claim that Jim Leonhard has become a "difference maker," then you're just wrong. He's the same guy he was here. You guys would be surprised to see how big of difference makers Lynch, Trent, Lee, Roscoe, Leodis, Poz, Stroud, Mitchell, Jackson, Greer, and Whitner are. Give us Bill Belichick and I bet we're pretty damn near close playing last sunday. They made it to 11-5 with Cassel and Ellis as their studs. They won in the past with Troy Brown as the #1 WR. They went 11-5 after one of their main difference makers, Asante Samuel, left. Get a clue. If anything, we're really good at drafting difference makers. Not too many teams have picked up Mckelvin, Lynch, Posluszny, etc in the past 2 years.

I feel like some of you guys undervalue him. I can only think of Peterson as being better than him. Please don't pull out stats. I know that "numbers don't lie," but they also don't tell the whole story. Please dont attempt to tell me Lynch would have the same stats if he was on the steelers, pats, etc. Where do you guys put him? I have him as 2nd best.

Both teams: Lynch, Peters, Stroud, Greer, Whitner, Posluszny, McKelvin Steelers but not Cardinals: Evans, As you can see, our DBs are extremely elite. I feel like Stroud could definitely help both teams, and Posluszny would be a beast on the Steelers(he's already a beast, but you know what I mean). Lynch would have about 2000 yds a year on either team, and peters is clearly a stud. I don't know too much about individual special teamers or lineman, but I'm assuming a few of our linemen could be useful somewhere. So, to the thread starter, the Bills have the !@#$ing players. Watch Lynch run or Peters block or Greer cover and you'll see it. Or watch ESPN and think that having a new TE that would start on BOTH SUPER BOWL TEAMS WILL LEAD US TO THE PROMISED LAND.

I've been around I basically just never feel motivated enough to post. These trade ideas really got me going though...

My bad guys. I really don't like the use of "retard" either. Just frustrated at the time. I just feel like some of you guys contribute to the Bills sucking as much as the staff itself does. You gotta get the media to want a new coach, not a first rd TE and Boldin and McNabb.

Lynch, Peters, Evans, etc. Your all !@#$ing retarded. Just wanted to let you know. If we cant win with these studs on the field, I can't even imagine what the hell we'd look like. We have the worst offense in the division with the current players. How the !@#$ do you want us to get better without peters and lynch? Obviously no player is untouchable, but we're not just gonna trade Peters for McNabb. Awful idea. Same with Lynch for Boldin. As Bill in NYC wrote the other day, people always just watch the playoffs and see guys like Fitzgerald(or Moss/Burress last year) and think that that's all there is to winning. That's far from the truth. The Lions have Calvin Johnson and the Bengals had Chad Johnson and TJ Houshmandzadeh. Winning all starts with coaching, and is dependent on talent, particularly on the lines. Unfortunately you guys think that McNabb and Jackson and Boldin and Evans would just turn out to be a legendary offense. Truth is, we have the players now, its just Jauron doesn't get sh-- out of them.

Yeah. The Bills left their coaches alone when dick was busy trying to get us to the playoffs too. Its been working for years now for the bills organization to have choir boys.

I swear Ralph trained some of you guys into actually accepting mediocrity. You never see any sort of spark from the Bills, anyone getting frustrated, and that pisses me off more than if they actually did. If you want choir boys, then go ahead and be 7-9 every year. If you want a SB team, you gotta have guys who love the game who wanna make plays for their team. Anyone see the passion Fitz had yesterday? Hightower? Boldin's desire for the game? We have a teamful of Lee Evans'. Great player, great character, can't really complain about the guy, but he does kind of seem to just accept whatever happens. If he has a 2 catch game, he won't B word. If we lose cuz of a playcall, he won't B word. I understand bitching does not equate to wins, but I just wish we had someone with some !@#$ing passion. But yeah, the selfish prick boldin is going to the SB in 2 weeks. And the guy you compared him to was in the SB a few years ago. The Bills haven't even sniffed the playoffs. Its actually conceivable that both of those guys have been to the SB more recently than we have even beat the Pats(I don't feel like researching it).

Yea dude. All of those guys in your first sentence(im not too sure about vick?) have been in the playoffs more recently that the Bills. TO, Tank, and Plax have all been to the SB. But yeah, having these players always constitutes as team killing.