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Yeah, would have been nice, but if you look at around at the Journeyman that signed places, they all got more money than they were worth...ask Jacksonville and Miami about that one...lol.
Wasnt a lot to choose from that was better than we had or could get in the draft. I definitely didnt expect Hardy to be a monster impact this year, although I will admit I expected more than we got from him, thats for sure. The coaching staff is really high on him still, at least they claim to be, so who knows what next year brings. Personally, I think Johnson emerges as the eventual #2 either during preseason or sometime during the season.
Then again, unless we get a QB to get these guys the ball, none of them are gonna develop or at least appear to develop. Even when Trent was doing ok he wasnt pushing the ball down field much...which is why I am not too high on him at this point when you add that into how fragile he has been his entire football life, and how bad his swagger and confidence dipped when he struggled. Dont get me wrong, I hope he rebounds and develops just like I will root for any of our guys to, but I just am not that optimistic after what I have seen this year.
I never said he's been fragile, I just said his confidence was shaken this season, especially in the Cleveland game. Edwards took a beating in college. Like you, I hope Edwards rebounds in 09'. I think a lot of us got very high hopes on Edwards after we were 5-1, but we have to realize that he's just a 2nd year QB and we're gonna go through some growing pains with him.
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Since everybody seems to think Schobel is so great a first rounder in a trade should be no problem
That would be nice!
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Wow, agree totally again...
Whats with all the "mark my words" topics...
Mark my words, I am gonna postal up in here if I see another one...lmao...
LMAO!!! We agree again!!!
Last week there were a bunch of "Mark My Words" threads, one was just a spinoff of the other, it became very annoying.
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Sorry, but who in the hell is gonna pay full price for a ticket and pay for parking just to stay for 15 minutes of a game. The only way Ralph is going to notice anything is if there is a significant drop in ticket sales next year...when it hurts his pocketbook, he'll notice.
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Good, the best teams trade for more 1st & 2nd round picks.
How many times have the Patriots ended up with 2 first round picks in recent years.
When we traded a 1st to NE, what did they get?
If we could trade someone (like Schobel) to get another 1st round pick, then that would be a smart move. If a team wanted our #1 pick and we got multiple picks in return (like we did with Dallas 2004- #2 & #5 plus 2005 #1), then that would be a good move as well.
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From what I heard was that he was pushing for a high end deal but couldnt find it, which is why he signed the 1 year deal in SF to try and play his way into a bigger deal this off season that he was seeking last year.
He has been a bust in SF and grossly outplayed by an old Issac Bruce. He wont find that deal this year either. Buffalo didnt want to waste time messing around with a 1 year deal...it was a lose lose for us. If he doesnt work out, he took time away from developing a young WR we could get in the draft. If he did have a big year, he would hold us over the coal's this offseason for a huge contract and likely go some where else anyway as he would be highly sought given his size and would likely sign with a Philly, Minn, Dall (they didnt have Roy at the time Buffalo was considering this), etc. if he showed big time talent during his year in Buffalo.
So, I was happy to see him go to SF as I didnt want to overpay for potential.
I was hoping we would've picked up a journeyman WR for 2-3 years and drafted a WR as well. It usually takes 2-3 years for a WR to develop, sometimes 4, so bringing in a veteran WR for at least 2 to 3 years would have been helpful to this offense. But I agree, I wouldn't have broke the bank on Johnson or given him a 1 year deal.
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I'm gonna say with Evans, Reed and Johnson on the field the Bills are ok at WR..we all saw what the offense was like without Reed..and when he came back he stepped in right where he was b4 he got hurt...he might not have outstanding #'s but he gets 1st downs when we need them...Johnson looks to be better than Hardy to me at this point...I'd rank the wr's in this way : 1-Evans, 2-Reed, 3-Johnson, 4-Hardy, 5-Jenkins..next season I wouldnt be suprised to see it go: 1-Evans, 2-Johnson, 3-Reed.....I also think D.Fine will be the TE we all are looking for next season..So far I really like his play...I'm hopeing TE watches tapes and says " hey I need to throw to Fine more often"
I agree as well. Reed brings a lot to our offense with his ability to gain crucial yards and his blocking. I hope Johnson and Fine will be more involved in our offense next season.
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The funniest thing is that I think I argue with you the most yet I agree with you on almost everything...including this last post.
As far as Trent and a #1 goes, my rationale is that if we decide he is NOT our future, than I would rather dump him than give up an additional pick that we could use on a more pressing need and bring in a veteran to back up McNabb as there will be plenty of servicable backups available cheap this offseason.
Personally, I would prefer to keep Edwards and get McNabb as cheap of possible. I just dont think its a reality. I think any offer to get McNabb will likely command at least a #1 pick to get him out of Philly, ESPECIALLY if he leads them to the playoffs. I can see Philly asking for Trent too as Kolb just looks awful when he gets a chance to play in the preseason or real games. If I was faced with giving up Trent and our #1, I would do it for a player the caliber of McNabb. It wouldnt be my first choice, but if push came to shove and that is what it took, then I would be ok with it.
The draft is deep at QB this year and we could pick up a young QB to groom the next 3 years...or (preferably) take one next year.
Okay, that makes better sense. I don't want to give up on Edwards just yet, I feel he needs about 2 more weapons. Plus, I wish Ralph would open his pocketbook up on a good GM and coach. Regardless of who we have at QB, if we keep having lame ducks like Jauron as HC, we're never going to be a playoff team.
How much was B. Johnson asking for? I never heard the price.
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"Interested" like Mark Hamister who was "interested" in buying the Sabres?
Nobody will know for sure until that point in time comes, but call me skeptical about the legitimacy of the "Kelly Group".
We've seen Jim Kelly on the sidelines all this season & last season, plus Roger Goodell has been in town a bunch of times. I'm wondering if there are things going on behind the scenes that we don't know about regarding Jim possibly buying the team? Jim has even said that there's a lot he can't talk about, but as long as he's here, the Bills will stay in Buffalo.
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What are you talking about? I wanted a veteran WR this past year. I think we now have found a pretty good player to develop in Steve Johnson, so I dont think its as pressing need going into next year, but before this season I definitely wanted some WR help and even was on the Bryant Johnson band wagon in the beginning (IF HE WAS AT THE PRICE HE WAS WORTH, just didnt want to over pay him and was SOOOO glad we didnt).
If we can get Boldin or Housh this year, then hell yeah bring em in, but if I had to choose between them or say a Elite QB or DE, I take the latter as I think our WR's will be much better with better QB play that provides a down the field threat instead of dink and dunk.
Man, I just dont get some of your comments...its like you are drunk when you read my posts as you grossly misinterpret what I say every time and twist it to mean something totally different.
I'm drunk...I think you have multiple personalities with your posts. You plan on giving up Edwards and our #1 pick, for a QB who plays spontaneously & is injury prone? I like McNabb, but he's either hit or miss. With giving away Edwards, do you really feel confident in Hamdan stepping in and playing? You know at some point Hamdan will come in because McNabb will get injured at some point in the season.
I agree with some of your points, I like Steve Johnson and think he can develop into a #2 WR, I wish he would get the ball thrown to him more. I was on the Brent Johnson bandwagon as well, but never heard the amount he was asking for...what was his price? It's too early to give up on Edwards, he needs more weapons. Royal should be cut loose after the season. We need a veteran backup QB. Housh or Jennings would be a great addition. A better Center would be nice. With our WR's, the only one that other teams gameplan around is Evans. IMO Evans is a below average #1 WR but is an overacheiving #2 WR. Evans has great speed, but can't shake the double-teams. How many times have we've seen Evans get between 1-4 receptions in a game? Reed is a great slot receiver but is not a #2 WR. Parrish is a 4th or 5th WR at best, he's great on Special Teams, but has been dropping almost everything thrown to him since coming back from surgery.
You're right in saying we need a better DE. IMO we need 2 DE's. Schobel is way overpaid and hasn't been producing over the last 2 seasons. If we can get better DE's, then we should try and trade Schobel to at least get something for him. He's not worth the %50.5 million dollar contract he got. We have NO pass rush and good QB's like Warner, Manning & Brady will pick us apart if we can't get people in their face.
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And the Rubberman contract
I have that movie at home, I need to watch that again. Plus, Vanessa Angel is hot as hell.
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You just contradicted yourself...you say unless its for a NFL superstar, then say most for McNabb would be a 3rd...well, hate to break it to you but McNabb is an NFL superstar, and if we can get him for a #1, we have to consider it. There is not player in this draft, even if we had the #1 pick in the draft that will come in and have the impact McNabb would have here next year, or even in the 2 or 3 years to follow. We will have maybe a pick somwhere between 8 and 15 I am guessing, so there is no player that will help as much as McNabb and he is young enough to have that impact for several more seasons.
We are a young team...more YOUNG players isnt gonna get us to the promise land. Some of our key players are NOT so young by the way, and some may not be here much longer once these younger players become free agents. So, its not like we have a 5 year window to get good. A teams realistic window is generally 3 years with Free Agency unless they are some of the few teams that keep their key pieces, which we dont have a great track record of.
We have enough talent on this team to make a serious run if we had an Elite QB...Trent will not get us there next year...in fact, with Trent we will struggle to win 7 games with our Brutal schedule next season...
How did I contradict myself? Just because I didn't put "NFL Superstar" right next to McNabb's name that means I'm contradicting myself?! Why don't you learn reading comprehension. I also said "I doubt" the Eagles would take a 3rd rounder in exchange for McNabb as they would want a higher draft pick (meaning 1st or 2nd rounder).
You are right about the window of opportunity for this team, we have about 3 to 5 years. But, regardless of who is the QB, we need another WR, if you think our group of WR's is good enough than you're crazy. We need a stellar WR to compliment Evans, whether it's Jennings or Houshmanzadeh (or how ever you spell his name). The last time we had a good offense was Bledsoe's first year when we had Moulds & Price. Having a big physical WR would be a perfect compliment to Evans. If Hardy develops, it will take him 3 or 4 years, especially with his recent ACL injury. If the Bills don't get upgrades on offense at the WR, TE & C position, we will have the same offense next year regardless of who's the coach and who's the QB is.
Bottom line, Ralph will no longer give up a 1st or 2nd rounder. Read the article from the Buffalo news, it's not going to happen.
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In the pregame they are talking about McNabb and how with McNabb your team has a chance to go to be good and go to the Super Bowl...how in his entire career he has only had a #1 target in just 23 games...how he is still an elite QB and top 5 in the league...
So Keyshawn chimes in and says, if you dont want em Philly, Buffalo will take him...
I say, HELLZ YEAH we will take him...gawd I hope we go after McNabb if he is available...give them Trent and our #1
You talk about me with my questioning of the Bills FO not bringing in a veteran WR in the offseason and you're willing to trade away Trent Edwards & our #1 pick? I'm glad you're not the GM.
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any word on who Kelly's group is?
Kelly said he's been contacted by more than a dozen people who are interested in partnering with him, but Jimbo hasn't disclosed exactly who.
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New flash to Ralph.........he has the ability to say no to certain trades!!!!! He has himself to blame. He's mad about the Donahoe era, ok well he hired him....his fault.
Back when Marv was in charge he gave up some picks to get into the first for McCargo....again Ralph's fault for letting it happen....
No matter what Ralph has to say anymore about the past & present he has himself to blame.....stop pointing fingers.
I agree, I just wish Ralph would sell the team to Jim Kelly & his group.
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http://www.buffalonews.com/opinion/columns...ory/517889.html
Ralph is still mad about giving up 1st round draft picks to move up in the draft from the Donahoe era, plus the highest we offered for Tony Gonzazlez was a 3rd rounder (Stroud - 3rd & 5th rounders), so Ralph is not going to let the Bills FO give up 1st & 2nd round picks. So, unless we try & trade for a NFL superstar, the highest you'll see the Bills give up is a 3rd rounder, and I doubt Philly will give up McNabb for a 3rd rounder or less.
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Ralph is still pissed about giving away draft picks from the Donahoe era, so I highly doubt you'll see McNabb in a Bills jersey in 09'.
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Here are some good stats, Marshawn Lynch is tied for 10th in rushing with 1,002. But the one I really like is seeing our old buddy Trash at #36. I got so sick of hearing from people (especially the non-Bills fans) at what a great RB McGahee was in college and it was our O-Line's fault for him not being successful here in Buffalo. I'm just glad that Trash was able to continue to live off his college career long enough for us to dump him and get 3 picks from the Ravens for his sorry ass.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tab...mp;d-447263-n=1
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Paper bags, signs & t-shirts showing our displeasure would be a good start. But low ticket sales for the 09' season is the best way to get Ralphie's attention.
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If all of us want to really make a statement, then people should hold off from buy season tickets for next year right away. After the 2001-2002 season when we were 3-13, there was a small of amount of season tickets sold. Shortly after, Donahoe traded for Bledsoe and ticket sales went back up.
Once Ralph sees a significant drop in ticket sales, him & the front office will be forced to make changes.
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Would you take TJ Houshwhatever instead of Jennings? You gotta think Jennings would get franchised or - if not franchised - would cost a good deal more than TJ. Do we need to pay for TWO top flight WR's? Or is what we have sufficient with money better spent on the lines, LB, safeties, etc.
I'd take TJ Hoosyourmomma if we couldn't get Jennings. Our WR's are not getting the job done right now, which is why we need another weapon. Evans can't shake the double-teams and doesn't have the size to. (and yes, Steve Smith is 5'9", but he's an exception).
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Triplette got munsoned
ESPN Announcer: So JP, where have you been for the last fifteen years?
JP: Well, I uh, well, ya see, I uh... Drinking. Lot a drinking.
ESPN Announcer: I see. Well, are you still drinking?
JP: No. I uh... I put... uh... Why, you buying?
At least Munson got the very hot Ms. Claudia at the end.
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In the pregame they are talking about McNabb and how with McNabb your team has a chance to go to be good and go to the Super Bowl...how in his entire career he has only had a #1 target in just 23 games...how he is still an elite QB and top 5 in the league...
So Keyshawn chimes in and says, if you dont want em Philly, Buffalo will take him...
I say, HELLZ YEAH we will take him...gawd I hope we go after McNabb if he is available...give them Trent and our #1
Bringing in McNabb will be similar to when we brought in Bledsoe & also when the Ravens brought in McNair. We would see good results for a year, maybe 2, then he'll fizzle out like Bledsoe & McNair did.
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He may be gone, then who?
What about Jim Haslett?
I'd like to see Haslett, Marvin Lewis or Romeo Crennel as our defense coordinator, but not as head coach.
Mark My Words
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I agree again, enough of the stupid "mark my words" sh--.