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If Loseman starts, I'll DVR the game and wait until I see the final score on Monday to determine if I'll watch the game or delete it. Most likely if Loseman starts, I'll delete it as he will lose the game again for us.
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Awww. Why'd you have to ruin the fun and quote a no-talent a$$-clown?
I met Carlos Mencia a couple of years ago, he was really cool.
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I would feel better if we had a VP like Parcells
Wish Ralph would try bringing in Schottenheimer as VP.
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you have season tickets by yourself? loser
In the words of Carlos Mencia "DEE, DE DEE!!!"
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you have season tickets by yourself? loser

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Yes, that's right. And instead of 198 other players, all 32 teams had at least 4 chances to draft Tom Brady in 2000. Instead, the following QB's were drafted: Chad Pennington (NYJ), Giovanni Carmazzi (SF), Chris Redman (Bal), Tee Martin (Oak), Marc Bulger (NO), and Spergon Wynn (Cle). The draft is an art, not a science. Nobody gets it right every time. Let it go.
And as to the teams that look like they get it right every time, it's because they have a good coach that knows how to accentuate what players do well. It's not because the players those teams draft are markedly better than everyone else. You can nit-pick any teams' draft with a "you could've had this guy" mentality.
I think most of us were scratching our heads wondering why we drafted Whitner over Ngata. It was painfully obvious at the time we needed a DT.
And yes, the draft is a crap shoot, nobody is going to get it right all the time. We've had terrible coaches since Levy retired as coach and I doubt that will change as long as Ralph is still the owner.
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Am I the only one who remembers watching "Linebacker Jesus" Laurinitis get ABUSED by superior athletes in the past two national championship games? Or against Texas or USC?
We've already got one over-matched, over-hyped Big Ten linebacker on the roster, we don't need another. Curry, Maualuga and even Spikes are much better options. I'd kick the tires on Orakpo...
Maybe Laurinatis needs to get his dad, Road Warrior Animal to help him knock out the offensive linemen.
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Now lets see..I am reading from the police report.
The Wagon got a late start waiting for Jason Peters to arrive in Buffalo, his team mates made several calls with no answer.
He eventually showed up in an angry mood and the players called him a big baby!
They finally got started, but the players were real nervous as the wagon weaved from lane to lane while the driver attempted to steer the wagon clear of incoming traffic and large trees. The players were praying for a miracle.
The Truck pulling the wagon hit a pot hole, ejecting Trent Edwards, Aaron Schobel and Justin Youtody from the passenger side, then crashed into a large barn in Elma.
Dick Jauron was driving the truck, but he forgot the map and got lost. He then panicked as the truck slide sideways off the road.
The trip only takes a few minutes but the Bills missed a few turns in the road,crashed and burned and the players became angry with the driver.
Most of the passengers blame each other for not paying closer attention to the driver. " Why did you guys let that idiot drive anyway," said Marshawn Lynch.
J.P. Losman said he can fix the wreck, but he has no tools and really doesn't care anyway.

40 minutes later Ralph Wilson arrived at the scene in his helicopter.
Ralph Wilson denies responsibility, and will fire and sue Dick Jauron and hire another fine young assistant to replace him.
Ralph just stood on the side of the Road yelling "Who do you think will pay for this twisted WRECK....not me" he said

Dick Jauron's new contract extension was in the glove box, and nobody can find the freakin thing.
Ralph just laughed, and flew away in his private helicopter as Jason Peters screamed "SHOW ME THE MONNNNEEEYYY"
A huge crowd of reporters arrived at the scene to question Dick Jauron but refused to comment.
His only reply was " I have no idea what happened, it must have been slippage,er something"

-DIE HARD 1967


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Also, instead of drafting Donte Whitner, we could have drafted Haloti Ngata. Don't get me wrong, I like Whitner but we needed a better impact player at DT. It would of saved the wasted pick on McCargo and the wasted FA pick up of Tripplett.
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Here's one that I got pissed about:
We gave up our #1 draft pick to the Jags so we could get Rob "I Fallen and can't get up" Johnson. The Jags used our draft pick on Fred Taylor. Great job John "Bubblechin" Butler!

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If we could land Haynesworth, we could see one of the best DT combos in Bills history. It would be great but I'll reserve my hope.
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#1 When was the last time the defense won a game all by themselves for the Bills? Shut some team down and dominated?
The defense has improved in certain areas but they're still not good enough to completely shut down a team and steal a game for us. Plus, it doesn't help that we have an anemic offense.
#2 How is Buffalo's pass rush effecting the secondary?
What pass rush?
#3 How well has the coaching staff prepared the team for division games and weaker teams like the Rams, Browns and 49er's? When the Bills lost the easy games, how did this effect the locker room?
Not well prepared at all. Jauron does not have these guys practicing enough in mini-camps, training camps and during the week before the game.
I'm sure all the guys were deflated knowing they lost to a team that they should of beat.
#4 Buffalo needed a tough Physical WR and drafted one in James Hardy, was he ready to contribute?
No. Banking on a rookie WR to have a major impact was a big mistake. I'm glad they drafted Hardy and Steve Johnson as well, but to help a 2nd year QB, the Bills FO should of brought in a veteran WR even if it was for a 2-3 year period until Hardy & Johnson were ready. It usually takes 2-3 years, sometimes 4 for a WR to become a good player.
#5 Has the Offensive line become the strength of the team, or have they failed to generate a consistent running attack?
With Peters holding out, it hurt the consistency of the O-Line. The line looked good in the season opener minus Peters and they should of sat his butt out for at least 4 games until he was ready. Peters is undeserving of the Pro-bowl this year.
#6 This is a big one, How much help did Dick Jauron receive in filling glaring holes in the lineup after players were injured?
How do the Patriots always find these veterans nearly out of football, plug them in, and move forward? How does the Patriots get a player like Randy Moss for a 3rd round selection in the draft? Are they just lucky??? How do the Patriots attract players?
Not much but that falls on management to get him the players.
Mr. Kraft has shown a committment to excellence to the Patriots players & fans. Look at us back in the 90's during the "Glory Years", you know a bunch of players would of loved to have played here. Players want to go to a winning team and a team that is committed to winning.
#7 When opposing teams game plan for the Bills, what player on Defense for the Bills can disrupt any game plan and destroy any chance of winning? I remember this guy.....oh, what was his name? Ah, Bruce something....ah?
People say Schobel but I feel he is overrated and overpaid. We don't have a gamebreaker on defense right now.
#8 How many top NFL coaches want to coach in Buffalo with Ralph Wilson as owner? Will this great new head coach have any control in solving problems?
Not many.
It depends on how Ralph feels. Does Ralph really want to have a championship caliber team or a team that looks good enough on paper to attract the fans? Otherwise, I doubt any new coach will have much success with this team.
#9 How can you possibly evaluate talent, if you hate the coaching staff ? I find it impossible! Could it be the players have more talent then you give them credit for, but the coaching staff is incapable of coaching them properly?
I'm sure an overwhelming majority here did not like the hiring of Jauron as HC. You have a good point though, maybe if we ever get a good coach then we can answer that question.
#10 How many Buffalo Bills players really want to be in Buffalo, and how many clearly want out of town?
Does this effect the locker room? Has Lee Evans really given up on his endorsement of J.P. Losman, or has he been told to keep his mouth shut?
I'm sure a lot of the players love us fans because we're die-hards and support the hell out of them, but I know they have to get tired of losing and not making the playoffs.
Who knows the answer of the Evans endorsement, I know he's happy about his big contract extension but can't be happy with the way the offense has turned out this year.
Who in the front office is capable of fixing the problems the way Bill Parcells did for the Dolphins?
No one currently. Maybe Schottenheimer?
Will the Dolphins just steal the division next year with sound decision making by Bill Parcells while the rest of the AFC-East watches in horror?
I'm sure they will with the Pats on their doorstep.
- Die Hard 1967
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When is enough, enough?
Last Saturday I paid my Directv Bill. My balance due was a couple of hundred dollars. They were going to turn off my service on Sunday. My bill was that high because I had not paid for the NFL Sunday ticket yet.
For me shelling out the two and a half Benjamin's plus to watch football is not easy. This honestly is money I could have used for Christmas. While watching the game against the Jets, I started to realize that it is just not worth it. I didn’t get my money’s worth. Worst yet, looks like nothing will happen in the near future to make the expense justifiable.
Adding a couple of free agents, drafting some hopeful college prospects and getting a couple of new position coaches isn’t going to do it for me. I have been a life long Bills fan. I have a signed picture of Ko Simpson framed in my office. He autographed it: To “A Real Bills Fm” because that is what I’m known as. But honestly, I’ve just about had it. When Dick J was hired by the Bills, I was so angry that I threw several of my Buffalo Bills items out of my bedroom window into the pond next to my house. I told my wife I would never follow the Bills again. But of course, stupid me, I came back and have paid just under $1,000.00 to watch the Bills have three consecutive losing seasons.
At this point, I think my biggest mistake was expecting the Bills to be consistently competitive in the NFL. My second mistake was to think that anyone at One Bills drive actually cares about the fans outside of the revenue we bring.
When is enough, enough? Why should I continue to be a loyal fan? I don’t know if I’m just so disappointed or actually starting to emotionally divorce myself from the organization I have cherished for over 35 years.
Is anyone else feeling this way? Or does being true Bills fan mean to: Shut up, Pay up, complain not, and expect nothing?
I feel your pain. The main reason I got Direct TV was so I could see the Bills play every Sunday. Direct TV has a monopoly on the NFL Sunday ticket and they jack up the price every year. If the Bills/Ralph don't make significant changes in the offseason, I'm not going to renew the NFL Sunday ticket next year. I love the Bills and have been following them since the Chuck Knox era, but I can't take the punishment anymore. 9 years without playoffs is a slap in the face to us loyal fans.
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Great...he'll hold out again in the offseason.
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Geezus...another poser mark my words post coupled with a poser protest request...


I agree again, enough of the stupid "mark my words" sh--.
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Yeah, would have been nice, but if you look at around at the Journeyman that signed places, they all got more money than they were worth...ask Jacksonville and Miami about that one...lol.
Wasnt a lot to choose from that was better than we had or could get in the draft. I definitely didnt expect Hardy to be a monster impact this year, although I will admit I expected more than we got from him, thats for sure. The coaching staff is really high on him still, at least they claim to be, so who knows what next year brings. Personally, I think Johnson emerges as the eventual #2 either during preseason or sometime during the season.
Then again, unless we get a QB to get these guys the ball, none of them are gonna develop or at least appear to develop. Even when Trent was doing ok he wasnt pushing the ball down field much...which is why I am not too high on him at this point when you add that into how fragile he has been his entire football life, and how bad his swagger and confidence dipped when he struggled. Dont get me wrong, I hope he rebounds and develops just like I will root for any of our guys to, but I just am not that optimistic after what I have seen this year.
I never said he's been fragile, I just said his confidence was shaken this season, especially in the Cleveland game. Edwards took a beating in college. Like you, I hope Edwards rebounds in 09'. I think a lot of us got very high hopes on Edwards after we were 5-1, but we have to realize that he's just a 2nd year QB and we're gonna go through some growing pains with him.
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Since everybody seems to think Schobel is so great a first rounder in a trade should be no problem

That would be nice!
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Wow, agree totally again...
Whats with all the "mark my words" topics...
Mark my words, I am gonna postal up in here if I see another one...lmao...
LMAO!!! We agree again!!!
Last week there were a bunch of "Mark My Words" threads, one was just a spinoff of the other, it became very annoying.
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Sorry, but who in the hell is gonna pay full price for a ticket and pay for parking just to stay for 15 minutes of a game. The only way Ralph is going to notice anything is if there is a significant drop in ticket sales next year...when it hurts his pocketbook, he'll notice.
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Good, the best teams trade for more 1st & 2nd round picks.
How many times have the Patriots ended up with 2 first round picks in recent years.
When we traded a 1st to NE, what did they get?
If we could trade someone (like Schobel) to get another 1st round pick, then that would be a smart move. If a team wanted our #1 pick and we got multiple picks in return (like we did with Dallas 2004- #2 & #5 plus 2005 #1), then that would be a good move as well.
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From what I heard was that he was pushing for a high end deal but couldnt find it, which is why he signed the 1 year deal in SF to try and play his way into a bigger deal this off season that he was seeking last year.
He has been a bust in SF and grossly outplayed by an old Issac Bruce. He wont find that deal this year either. Buffalo didnt want to waste time messing around with a 1 year deal...it was a lose lose for us. If he doesnt work out, he took time away from developing a young WR we could get in the draft. If he did have a big year, he would hold us over the coal's this offseason for a huge contract and likely go some where else anyway as he would be highly sought given his size and would likely sign with a Philly, Minn, Dall (they didnt have Roy at the time Buffalo was considering this), etc. if he showed big time talent during his year in Buffalo.
So, I was happy to see him go to SF as I didnt want to overpay for potential.
I was hoping we would've picked up a journeyman WR for 2-3 years and drafted a WR as well. It usually takes 2-3 years for a WR to develop, sometimes 4, so bringing in a veteran WR for at least 2 to 3 years would have been helpful to this offense. But I agree, I wouldn't have broke the bank on Johnson or given him a 1 year deal.
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I'm gonna say with Evans, Reed and Johnson on the field the Bills are ok at WR..we all saw what the offense was like without Reed..and when he came back he stepped in right where he was b4 he got hurt...he might not have outstanding #'s but he gets 1st downs when we need them...Johnson looks to be better than Hardy to me at this point...I'd rank the wr's in this way : 1-Evans, 2-Reed, 3-Johnson, 4-Hardy, 5-Jenkins..next season I wouldnt be suprised to see it go: 1-Evans, 2-Johnson, 3-Reed.....I also think D.Fine will be the TE we all are looking for next season..So far I really like his play...I'm hopeing TE watches tapes and says " hey I need to throw to Fine more often"
I agree as well. Reed brings a lot to our offense with his ability to gain crucial yards and his blocking. I hope Johnson and Fine will be more involved in our offense next season.
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The funniest thing is that I think I argue with you the most yet I agree with you on almost everything...including this last post.
As far as Trent and a #1 goes, my rationale is that if we decide he is NOT our future, than I would rather dump him than give up an additional pick that we could use on a more pressing need and bring in a veteran to back up McNabb as there will be plenty of servicable backups available cheap this offseason.
Personally, I would prefer to keep Edwards and get McNabb as cheap of possible. I just dont think its a reality. I think any offer to get McNabb will likely command at least a #1 pick to get him out of Philly, ESPECIALLY if he leads them to the playoffs. I can see Philly asking for Trent too as Kolb just looks awful when he gets a chance to play in the preseason or real games. If I was faced with giving up Trent and our #1, I would do it for a player the caliber of McNabb. It wouldnt be my first choice, but if push came to shove and that is what it took, then I would be ok with it.
The draft is deep at QB this year and we could pick up a young QB to groom the next 3 years...or (preferably) take one next year.
Okay, that makes better sense. I don't want to give up on Edwards just yet, I feel he needs about 2 more weapons. Plus, I wish Ralph would open his pocketbook up on a good GM and coach. Regardless of who we have at QB, if we keep having lame ducks like Jauron as HC, we're never going to be a playoff team.
How much was B. Johnson asking for? I never heard the price.
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"Interested" like Mark Hamister who was "interested" in buying the Sabres?
Nobody will know for sure until that point in time comes, but call me skeptical about the legitimacy of the "Kelly Group".We've seen Jim Kelly on the sidelines all this season & last season, plus Roger Goodell has been in town a bunch of times. I'm wondering if there are things going on behind the scenes that we don't know about regarding Jim possibly buying the team? Jim has even said that there's a lot he can't talk about, but as long as he's here, the Bills will stay in Buffalo.

How did the Bills wagon really crash anyway?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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You're very accurate about the details.
If you scroll down on the synopsis of the police report, you'll see that Losman had the wagon up on a jackstand and was attempting to put on a new spare when the tire iron slipped out of his hand causing the wheel to come off and be stolen by Jets defender Ellis who needed a new tire.