Big Turk

We are talking a play or two that goes differently in 3 games and the outcome is different. I'm not sure you couldn't just chalk that up to small sample size.

Players already talked about this ad nauseum in the locker room cleanout day. They said Spags had shown that look a bunch of times and the pressure was always coming from the other side all game so they slid the protection that way. When they did, they brought it from the other side for the first time all game. Sometimes you just have to tip your hat to the other team for a great play call at a crucial time. If Cyborg doesn't totally whiff on his block, Allen likely has enough time to get the ball to Kincaid for a regular easy catch. So in this case it was a combo of a great playcall and poor execution by the one person who could least afford to not execute on that play.

A ridiculous statement. Anyone who got to that level did so because they either are extremely talented or extremely driven and hate to lose. To win Super Bowls, you must be both. None of those players want to lose any time they step onto that field.

Best part was that it wasn't called until Toney had done it 4 or 5 times at least. He literally lined up in the same position the first play he was in the game.

it's inferred. Nobody waits 5 years otherwise.

C'mon...this seems like everyone piling in for a money grab like when you are at the parade and the car comes by tossing candy out the window and all the kids from everywhere run over to try and grab it.

That's true. He had to correct himself that many times after he said it was a first down. Was happening all night long.

He has people in his ear...or don't you know how broadcasts work? Also after having done it tens, if not hundreds of thousands of times throughout his career calling games, pretty sure he should be mostly accurate with those...at least in every other game I have heard him or any other announcer call they have been. Not this game.

This is exactly what I was saying...it wasn't just on that one 3rd or 4th down play, it was throughout the night. Nantz was incredulous by the 3rd quarter as to why the refs kept marking the Bills short when he would call first down. Happened at least 7 or 8 times. Never seen that happen as frequently as that game...it was ridiculous.

When his elbow lands, the entire ball is across the line, watch the slow replay that's posted. The better question might be why were the Bills constantly being marked short by a foot or two of first downs all night when it appeared they got enough for the first down? When Nantz starts complaining about the spots constantly being moved back after he says it's a first down something seems a little strange...been watching football 40+ years and can't say I've ever seen that happen THAT many times in a game to the same team.

Get a clue

The thing that stands out to me is that Reid looks like a "pancake eating muthaf***a"

And another one chimes in that the spot was BS. Dean Blandino, rules analyst for Fox says he believes Allen has the first down and said the judge who had a clearer picture of the ball shouldn't have ceded his spot to the guy who has Allen's back in view and not the ball. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/dean-blandino-believes-josh-allen-152414088.html

Kick rocks with this nonsense

All 3 games in the playoffs the other team scored on their first drive.

Well when both announcers and the rules analyst who happens to be a multi Super Bowl reffing former NFL referee and was head of officials for quite a while says it was BS, it's probably BS.

Expecting an extension of Dawkins/Allen to free up cap space and release of Miller...can get to a point we have over 30 mil in cap space with just those moves...I' sure Beane has more up his sleeve tho.

It wasn't only on those 2 plays, it was a consistent issue where even Nantz was incredulous eventually that he kept saying the Bills pick up a first down and then had to correct himself and say "the officials are marking it short!". Happened at least 7 or 8 times. Never seen it before. A few times? Sure. Almost every time it happened? Never.

This seems almost too far fetched to believe... They said the reason there wasn't one like there is almost after every game is that none of the reporters covering the game asked for there to be one. What?? You mean NOBODY wanted to figure out what happened with that 4th down spot or even worse why the Bills kept being marked a foot or two short when it seemed like a clear first down in every other game I've watched this year, including the play before the 4th down play to Kincaid? Something doesn't smell right. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/inside-the-pool-report-process-which-wasnt-activated-as-to-the-key-play-in-bills-chiefs

They were complaining about spots a lot of the game actually...there were at least 7 or 8 times where Nantz said the Bills picked up a first down and then almost in shock had to correct himself and say "the official is now marking him short!". Cannot ever remember a game where the ball consistently was being marked short of first downs for the Bills almost every time. Watched Bills games for 40 years and haven't ever seen anything like that and definitely never heard the announcers incredulous as to it continuing to happen over and over.

I mean who really has? They will likely win 3 straight Super Bowls and 4 of the last 5.