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    Chiefs have a TON of UFA's heading into next year and only 21m in cap space...they could have some issues

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    2 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:

    So is the Bills window also closing then?

     

    because the bills are going to lose most of Phillips, Hughes, Addison, Zimmer, Obada and currently have 20 Mil less space than the Chiefs do. 

     

    Likely will resign Phillips, Hughes and Addison were calculated by drafting Rousseau and Basham last year. Bills have some easy moves to free up cap space, just like the Chiefs probably do. But not enough to resign everyone. 

     

    Potentially losing Mathieu and Ward are bigger losses on D to them than anyone the Bills have tho.

    Chiefs have a TON of UFA's heading into next year and only 21m in cap space...they could have some issues

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    15 hours ago, Billl said:

    The guy filling in for Mathieu literally tripped and fell down while standing still on 4th and 13 leaving Davis all alone in the end zone.  Davis had 4 TDs and over 200 yards receiving.  I don’t know how much more a team could possibly be impacted by the loss of a DB.

     

    Are you that unknowledgeable about football that you don't know the difference between safeties and corners? There was no way he was a replacement for Mathieu just based on where he was lined up on the field. He was outside the numbers...the only time a safety could be covering a WR is when they are lined up in the slot.  Hughes is a CB not a safety. C'mon man...let's get it together.

     

    Sorenson was in for Mathieu

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    Daboll and Frazier....have they run their course here?!?

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    4 hours ago, Protocal69 said:

    The issue is that from a philosophical and team building standpoint the Bills run zone heavy scheme. Zone corners are cheaper BUT less athletic and probably easier to find than man corners that are more expensive but affect higher end QB and receivers more.

     

    So against lower tier QBs zone works fine but against great QB can beat zone defenses easier than man with everything being equal. That is the reason why the PATS in perfect world would much rather run man than zone BUT you have to have the horses to do so. 

     

    So from a team building perspective the BIlls DO NOT want to spend money a cornerbacks. You may say we paid Tre BUT they HAD to pay Tre from a team culture and moral standpoint. YOU WILL NEVER SEE THE BILLS SPENDING HUGE MONEY A FREE AGENT CB. If Jalen Ramsey was on the market right now and if we had the cap space and it cost 25 million to sign him we would not sign him. They would rather spend that money on the DL

     

    So in my opinion until we able to bring consistant pressure with our front 4 our zone defense will continue to get torched vs above average offenses. We really need to be able to play man defense in order to be able to shut down the Chiefs and that is why I want to draft a man corner with some zone ability to pair with Tre going in this draft or free agency period.

     

    The Bills play man quite a bit more man than most people realize since Tre has been here. Yes we play zone a lot but we have become much more than a mainly zone team. We mix and match coverages as well as any teams in the league but it's harder to do that when you don't have Tre holding down one side of the field by himself.

    Chiefs have a TON of UFA's heading into next year and only 21m in cap space...they could have some issues

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    6 minutes ago, CountDorkula said:

    They are in the AFC Champ game looking to go to another superbowl after giving up a historic Performance to Josh Allen.

     

    SO id say yes. 

     

    You miss the point. If their defense kept playing like that and were missing players like they were, they wouldn't have likely made the playoffs. They were 3-4 at one point and a bunch of games in that win streak were won because their defense stepped up and held the other team down because their offense still wasn't putting up a ton of points. 

    Chiefs have a TON of UFA's heading into next year and only 21m in cap space...they could have some issues

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    2 hours ago, Success said:

     

    Without Kelce, your offense changes significantly.  I wouldn't say that about any of the skill positions on the Bills.

     

    I guess we'll see how it goes.  The Bills blew it by not getting homefield this year. Even without it, and playing in a place as tough as KC, they had to collapse with 13 seconds left for KC to have a chance.  The Bills blew them out in the regular season - again, at KC.

     

    I'd rather you guys think it's going to be AFCCG's and SB's as far as the eye can see for the Chiefs. It will make it more fun.

     

     

     

     

    Even with Tom Brady, the Patriots made a lot of Super Bowls, but they didn't make all of them. There are going to be down years for the Chiefs even with Mahomes and their offense, just like there will be for the Bills.

    2 minutes ago, Billl said:

    Your LB situation is interesting to me.  Edmunds and Milano are going to make $23,000,000 next year, and I’m not sure how good either of them are.  You can make a case that both are really good or below average.  I think they’re probably both better than they get credit for because McDermott’s scheme makes them look bad.  It seems to cheat a little bit to help the DBs at the expense of the LBs.  

     

    It’s a good system, and I think he’s comfortable giving Edmunds more than anyone can really handle because it means giving up first downs at the second level rather than TDs at the third level.  That’s why Edmunds is such a polarizing player.  Some see him as a guy who gets beat a lot, and those people are right.  Others see him as a guy who makes chicken salad out of chicken ish, and those people are probably right as well.

     

    I think he’s a guy currently playing 2 positions.  He’s a Mike and a Will, and McDermott calls a defense as if it has 12 players on the field.  If he isn’t extended, there might be a line of GMs waiting to take him off your hands.  Then again, he might just suck.  WTF do I know?

     

    The problem with McDermott's scheme is that it can be broken by teams with multiple high level skill players.  It works fantastic against teams that are limited offensively or only have one real weapon  due to their ability to mix coverages, play as a single unit and execute at a high level. But against teams with multiple great players, they often times have matchup issues.  I guess that most teams probably do, but it seems the Bills seem to have the largest gap between their normal defensive performance and the one that happens against really high level skill opponents.

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    Chiefs have a TON of UFA's heading into next year and only 21m in cap space...they could have some issues

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    7 minutes ago, Billl said:

    I don’t know if you’ve recorded the games and are still trying to get caught up so I’ll try not to give too much away, but you might not want to write off their season just yet.

     

    Because they got injured defenders back and added Ingram.  What is going to happen if their defense is just bad due to not having he horses anymore is what I am saying.

    Go get Vic Fangio

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    On 1/24/2022 at 4:52 AM, SACTOBILLSFAN said:

    McDermott's defense is fine, but I think it can be too vanilla and without Tre it simply wasn't good enough at the corners to hold down the first passing offense they faced with a pulse since his injury. It's one thing to sit in a 2 deep shell when you have a top 3 DB locking down half of the field, but when that's the only trick you have, it gets exposed if that DB depth is tested. 

     

    With Josh's cap hit about to jump you can't go out and spend a ridiculous amount on defense because you have to make sure you surround your franchise player with talent and protection. However, if they go make Fangio the highest paid coordinator in football and let him re-imagine this defense I think it can actually be elite. This is clearly a Super Bowl roster but they need to give themselves more of a shot against Mahomes because he's not going anywhere either. 

     

    It would also be nice if McDermott pulled his head out and stopped surrendering with punts on 4th and 2 from the 45 when the opponent hasn't stopped Josh Allen all night, but that's another topic. 

     

    The cap is going to increase exponentially every year for about 4 or 5 years...it will be a non issue in a few years.

    Are we overplaying this team's chances had we won?

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    1 hour ago, harryS said:

    Cincy would've been a 51-3 repeat.

     

    Super Bowl vs the Rams would be a toss-up.  If it were the 49ers, we'd be the heavy favorites.

     

    You're right but we shouldn't underplay it either.  This was our best shot at a SB in forever and the coaches blew it.

     

    The Rams have not beat Shanahan under McVay, they are 0-6 versus them.  That was the LAST team they wanted to see in the NFCCG.  Will likely be a 49ers - Chiefs game and 49ers will get manhandled.

    1 hour ago, Success said:

    The idea that we would have breezed to a Lombardi seems to be a popular one on the board, and I admit that it's how I have felt.

     

    But we were a one-man team all year, for good and bad.  Even in our good wins, it was almost all Allen.  Singletary was starting to click, but all that did was give us a competent run game - nothing above average.  Our D was ranked #1, but I think we'd all agree that was kind of a mirage.  Personally, I think the Bengals and Rams have more impactful defenses, though they are both ranked much lower.   The Rams in particular have a fierce pass rush - which we do not have and haven't really had all season.

     

    Allen's already a legend at this point, but it's hard to remember too many teams that won it all w/ so much of their success attributable to one player.  Even in Brady's runs, there were games that the D & special teams made the plays for the win.

     

    We were clicking on all cylinders over the last month+ for sure, but the most impressive wins were over Carolina and New England (both times) - and I think the Pats were wildly overrated because of that 7-game win streak, which was their mirage.  Prior to that, we couldn't figure this team out.

     

    The Bucs had one of the best pass rushes in the league & had a hard time getting to Stafford.  It's possible that a SB match-up with the Rams would have really exposed our weaknesses.

     

    I tend to rationalize losses, but maybe we'll look back on this as a necessary step. We need to get this team's Bruce Smith & shore up a few other areas.  And when we finally do get back, there will be no doubt.

     

     

    No...the Bills are simply better than Cincy at this point.  Would have been a similar game to us versus KC last year...sort of competitive but not really.

    Bengals getting revenge for us

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    2 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

    KC will destroy the Bengals, just as we would have.   SB was already played last Sunday. 

     

    Exactly...they beat them in Cincy, I don't see it happening again. KC by 2 scores minimum.

    1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

     

    Bengals beat KC 34-31 in Week 17 when I promise you, KC had the #1 seed in their sights and was really trying.

     

    Some features of that game:

    -Bengals got down 14-0 at the beginning of the game which may have influenced their play calling.  Second-worst rush yards of the season, 60.

    -They kind of didn't try to hard to run, 19 rush plays to 40 pass plays. 

    -Williams was able to run on the Bengals, Mixon was not (or not given much chance) to run on the Chiefs

    -The Bengals did a decent job containing Mahomes, 259 passing yards

    -Burrow threw all over the field against the Chiefs.  And when I say all over, I mean All Over.  You hear me?  ALL over. (see chart below)

    -Very very even game overall, Bengals had 61 more offensive yards, Chiefs about 2 minutes more TOP, Same # of first downs.

     

    I'm not sure we would have destroyed the Bengals, and I'm not sure the Chiefs will.    I think the Bengals players deserve to be pissed off and fired up at hearing things like "SB was already played last Sunday"

     

    Burrow has been taking a beating, and that's got to mount up.

     

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    Interesting thing is Chase is every bit as big of a gamebreaker as Hill is...isn't that he game he put up ridiculous yardage totals against them and took a short cross like 75 yards to the house in between like 5 Chief defenders?  Kinda like Hill just did to us?

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