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2 hours ago, Adamb412 said:
Team friendly. Ask him flat out if he wants to win another championship
So you rather have knox drop key balls and be slow
Except Knox ran a 4.57 40 yard dash and Ertz runs a 4.76 40 yard dash. So Knox is actually faster than Ertz
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1 hour ago, Bob in STL said:
^ Probably will be long gone. “Fixing” the running game may have more to do with a stud OG than spending pick 30 on a RB.
At pick 30 he will likely find a solid starter that is ready to play soon than an impact player. At least based on my definition of an impact player. You never know.
Most of the mock drafts have him still there. In fact most don't have any RBs off the board by our pick so Najee Harris would be there also...
Maybe but good guards can be had in the mid rounds. Same with RBs too but when you have a chance to add this type of speed on the field you should probably do it when you are competing with KC.
1 hour ago, FireChans said:Perhaps the worst sales pitch in the history of the NFL draft.
Spiller was amazing for 1 year, averaging over 6 YPC and having what seemed like a long highlight reel play every week...that team lacked talent and Spiller lacked instincts to hit the hole to be anything more than a 1 year wonder.
If Etienne had that type of impact as his base I would take it in a heartbeat.
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Travis Etienne would look good in a Bills jersey....Brian Daboll's version of CJ Spiller.
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12 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:
I think this is wrong.
Without COVID, the 32 teams were, relative to each other, were in better or worse cap situations going into 2021. Since COVID, relative to one another, they're in the same cap positions. For just about all teams, if they want to make moves, they're going to have cut people to create room to sign rookies and others. New Orleans always was going to have cut players, they just have to cut more. The Bills were going to have to cut players, now they may need to cut more.
The real result here is that the players who get cut are going to take big pay cuts. There's no way around it. It sounded in Beane's press conference like Milano is gone. Whenever Beane says "it's a business and he is free to get paid what he can," he usually means we've had a preliminary conversation with his agent, and it that's what he wants, we're not going there. The problem is that this is horrible year to be a free agent, because NO ONE is going to have enough cap space to write contracts like they did last year. Guys on multi-year deals are protected, guys on one-year deals are not.
So, yeah, New Orleans or whoever may be letting more players go than the Bills, but if all those players stay in the league, they're going to be paid a lot less than they thought a year ago they'd be getting. But the teams, relative to one another, are still going to be able sign more or less the same number of players. That's an oversimplification.
Beane said in his presser that no one should expect the Bills to pick up any high-powered help in free agency.
Not necessarily...a team might have been able to do some restructures to clean up cap space up to a certain amount but now will have to cut a plyer or players from the $25 million more they would be over. So one team may still be fine but another may have to release players now. There is only so much cap maneuvering that can be done.
I don't see the NFL letting this happen and I think the cap number is probably closer to $200 million regardless of how they have to get there.
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3 minutes ago, Jobot said:
Why the hell would any Bills fan ever an be in favor of something like this right now?? The Bills are in better Cap situation than the majority of the league, and currently have a massive advantage in 2021 season as a result..
Not really...they are still over the cap and will need to make some moves. The teams that have 20+ million in cap space are going to be able to snap up free agents for pennies on the dollar this year because here is nowhere for them to sign for big dollars. Unfortunately 3 of those such teams are in our division. I am going to bet winning the division next year will be a lot tougher than it was this year. They are going to be able to load up on good players who normally wouldn't be out there for cheap, at least for next year.
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I think they should smooth out the pain over a period of maybe 10 years or so where the cap doesn't jump as much in the following years to offset the losses from this year...would make far more sense than cause a huge market disruption, team disruption and force a lot of good players to take far less than they normally would get on the open market since not many teams have a lot of cap room and there are a lot of teams that are going to have to cut players loose(especially the Saints).
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14 hours ago, Wizard said:
I want Allen to get his Brinks truck payday, but not yet!
Yes...Allen outplayed his salary. And, yes, we love him and our future with him. And, yes, he's perfect for Buffalo.
The Bills used a lot of assets to get Allen. He signed a contract, and part of that contract was getting a great deal of having his salary controllable to a possible 5 years.
Pay Allen, but maximize his $6-$7 million salary now while we can for at least next year. With Mahomes, Watson, Jackson, and possibly Herbert, the Bills need every valuable player that they can resign, and balancing out of their offense with a RB and a tougher front 7. He also needs as good as if not a better offensive line than this year.
We have next year to make this team deeper, stronger, and more balanced.
The $30+ mil we would save keeping Allen on his current contract plus the cutting of fat of Brown, Butler, Jefferson, Addison, and other cuts/restructures, gives the Bills an additional $30+million to resign the right players from this year's team while also giving the Bills a run game and a potential game changer in the front 7.
Allen will get $35-$45 million per. He will get it in his 5th year if on a franchise tag. He will get it with another MVP season again, a Super Bowl win, or even a top 10 statistical season with a playoff run.
He will be 26. He will be paid.
Take advantage of this 1 year window. Take out the Chiefs with a more balanced and talented roster, win the Super Bowl, and then pay Josh whatever he wants.
This is a rare window It is even a rarer window with the uncertainty of the salary cap Even more rare with today's free agency world, and then we have 1 year where we have a top 3 QB in football making $30-$40 million less than the few comparable QB's in the league.
Pay him, but don't pay it all yet!
First of all, all this shows is you have no earthly idea how contract extensions work. Signing Allen to a contract extension would mean he still plays on the 4th year of his rookie contract in 2021 and the extension doesn't kick in until 2022 when the big money would hit. However, they can minimize the cap hit by guaranteeing a lot of the money, giving him a big signing bonus and then moving his big cap hit years down the road to years 5 or 6+ like Mahomes deal is structured to let the cap keep going up(assuming no more COVID disruptions to fan attendance/gate revenue).
So the option is to sign Allen to a contract extension this offseason when we can hopefully get him for a little less than we would have once some of these other QBs have signed their deals, or exercises the 5th year option for 2022 and sign him to an extension in 2023, which would likely not be a wise business decision for the Bills seeing how the Chiefs didn't do that for Mahomes.
Either way, this has NO BEARING to the cap for next season in 2021. So your entire discussion regarding that is moot.
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It may never be easier for bottom teams with a bunch of cap room to feast on players getting cut by teams way over the cap and not have to pay them a ton of money because not many teams have cap room and there are going to be a LOT of good players on the market teams simply can't afford. I see a lot of one year deals being done by players because they will wait to hit the market again when the cap starts going back up. Could see a number of bad teams become good VERY fast by signing 5 or 6 really good players for cheaper than normal contracts.
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5 hours ago, Billl said:
What an amazing cherry pick. You just compared the two most productive players from the Bills class. Scratch that. You just compared the ENTIRETY of the production of the Bills draft class to one pick from the Chiefs class. Were all of the Bills apples more productive in 29 games played than one of the Chiefs oranges was in 13 games played? Sure. Would any GM in the league, if given the option, take Davis and Moss over Edwards-Elaire? Absolutely not.
That said, the rest of the Bills class to date has netted a roughly average season by a Kicker and absolutely nothing else. The rest of the Chiefs class has produced a starting LB, a #1 CB, and a DE who played 50% of the snaps.
I just don’t get why this is even a conversation. Without Davis, who had a solid but unspectacular season as a #4 Wideout, the Bills draft has been a total bust. Again, it’s way way too early to start labeling picks as busts, but if we’re talking about one season of sample size...yikes.
Epenesa (who I wanted the Chiefs to draft) just doesn’t look like an NFL player walking out of the locker room, and his performance on the field has been negligible. So far, he looks like a bad pick.
Moss looks like a guy with some power in short yardage but who has no speed and no value catching the ball out of the backfield. There are 50 guys on practice squads who can do that. After consecutive drafts taking a RB in the third round, the Bills biggest hole on offense is at RB. Looks like a bad pick.
Davis has looked good. He doesn’t look elite, but he could turn into a nice piece. Good pick.
Bass...was a kicker taken in the 6th round. That’s a total waste of a pick. He’d likely have been available as an UDFA. If not, Sloman or Blankenship would have been.
The rest didn’t even see the field.
Let’s talk “value” though. The Bills made selections worth 580 points according to the draft value chart. The Chiefs made selections worth 1040 points. If you throw out the first round pick to make a more fair comparison, KC had 450 points. For the sake of discussion, we can call that even. Buffalo got the players mentioned above (11 total starts) while Kansas City has a starting LB, a #1 CB, and a productive rotational DE. How’s that for surplus value?
CEH was nothing special this year. Not sure what he did to deserve the excessive ball washing everyone seems to be giving him. James Robinson and Jonathan Taylor had better years than he did as rookies.
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1 hour ago, The Jokeman said:
If he's cut he's free to go where he wants. New England has major questions on offense especially QB. I wouldn't go there if I was Ertz. Seattle has Wilson and good WRs so Kelce could benefit there but wouldn't dismiss us from the conversation as we have many of same things Seattle offers yet have a bigger upside. The only thing is cap space might limit us.
Our QB doesn't disappear down the stretch every year like Seattle's does either
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1 hour ago, colin said:
agreed, but we can't disguise the font as well in our normal formation, and like edmunds biting or one guy filling the wrong gap (butler on the goal line, as erik turner pointed out on twitter) and the whole thing is toast.
vs an O with limitations on what it can do, or when we can know what they do (this is where a lead helps) it is a good risk reward D, but it's too balanced for the modern NFL, it defends all of the field decently by design, but when someone is creative or baits us, it creates holes and doesn't attack or take away their strength well enough.
that's what i mean about not being anti fragile, in too many instances a single guy getting beat or making a mental mistake kills us. that's why indy was able to truck us for 14 points super fast, and why kc smoked us, and why we didn't stop a TE all season.
This year for whatever reason yes. Last year and the year before that not so much.
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3 hours ago, colin said:
i worry this has become an issue w what we are running now too. it's not anti fragile, a single mistake or guys who can't win one on one and we get trucked.
Our defense is pretty simple and relies mor on execution that complication. Hyde and Poyer are excellent at disguising things on the back end and we are typically good at simulating pressure but overall it is a simple defense.
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5 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:
My opinion on RBs haven’t changed.. never take one in the first round.. Hopefully there is a DE or TE there or we move down and save up picks.
At pick 30 there isn't much difference between there and the 1st pick in round 2.
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2 hours ago, delirious said:
I'll keep pounding the table for Kenneth Gainwell until the draft. He was awesome at Memphis.
The kid from Louisville mentioned earlier I think is a good one too
What about UB's Patterson? Dude was unstoppable for most of the past 2 years.
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3 hours ago, djp14150 said:
in or out of bound rulings are challangeableThe particular case of whether a QB has thrown the ball prior to stepping out of bounds is apparently an exception to this.
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This is some great stuff...
Explanation of Defensive Fronts
Explanation of the "46" Defense:
Explanation of Cover 1 Variations:
Explanation of pass rush 'games':
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Not really. We failed at pass pro in both games against the Chiefs while 31 other teams seemingly had no issues against them. Kinda pisses me off to be honest. You already saw what they were going to do and you struggled with it once. Had 3 months to figure it out and the same thing happened?
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7 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:
Why stop there? Tear it all down...couldn't even win a simple AFC title game on the road against the defending superbowl champions....
Not the issue. We couldn't block an average at best Chiefs pass rush in either game. How many times are you willing to watch the same thing before you consider it a problem?
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Just now, Victory Formation said:
No.
How can you expect to have a power run game with no FB and you’re constantly in 3-4 WR sets? I think Daboll needs to add some heavier sets to his repertoire. To do that, we need better TEs. Knox is a good #2, Buffalo needs a true #1 TE to make our offense more versatile. If you can pass effectively in heavier sets, how much easier would it be to run the football?
Spread them out and create a light box. Most teams don't even have a fullback anymore. Why would you want more people around the LOS if your goal is to run the ball? Never made any sense to me.
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11 minutes ago, Michael1962 said:
Does anyone know why GB is picking before us? They have the same record. Perhaps a sos or coin flip?
Weaker SOS...similar reasoning to why teams with worse records pick earlier than those with better records. If you finish in the same place with a weaker SOS it reasons you need more help than a team that had a stronger SOS
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Why did nobody ask him why the Bills made the Chiefs look like the 85 Bears in both games against us in terms of rushing the passer and pressuring Allen but the other 31 teams in the NFL made them look below average?
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27 minutes ago, Process said:
Not able to listen to the interview, but this is a BS statement.
With all the moves we've made the last few years, we should be right where they are. The problem is we've missed on way to many high draft picks and free agent signings.
Knox, singletary, edmunds, oliver, phillips, addison, butler, jefferson, norman, murphy, kroft. All 0 impact players.
Maybe the truth is that most 3rd round tight ends don't turn into Kelce or Kittle. The Bills lead the league by a wide margin in value on drafted players from 2017-2020. If you are complaining about our drafts what would you say about every other teams?
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Najee Harris or Travis Etienne would look great in a Bills uniform...very likely one of them or both is available at 30.
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Just now, JackKemp said:
The issue is the Bills have no running game. Their backs do not read the holes very well. A good running back will make the line look better.
Najee Harris or Travis Etienne welcome to Buffalo?
5 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:He got half of his players to block. Feliciano got manhandled by 6'6 320 monster who may be the best DT in the league outside of Aaron Donald.
Then double team him like we did when Heyward was wrecking the gameplan against the Steelers for most of the first half.
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The Chiefs Defense Used Four Big Safeties To Get To The Super Bowl
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Sneed is a CB. He plays the slot normally and Mathieu isn't exactly "big".