Big Turk

Perhaps that's why the 1-2 game injuries don't turn into the 3-4 game injuries or 6-8 game injuries like other teams have after they try to play hurt and injure it worse?

Other teams lose plenty of crucial starters too...Look at San Fran for instance. Bills did have 4th or 5th most DVOA lost to starters last year, so they were relatively high on that list, but 49ers lost their starting QB...TWICE! Imagine the Bills losing Josh, replacing him with Kyle, then losing him and replacing him with Barkley and STILL going to the Championship Game. Mind boggling how Shanahan's offense makes QB's almost irrelevant.

You realize BY FAR this team has the fewest Man Games lost to injury in the NFL over his tenure, right? Like I am talking about 2nd place is not even in the rearview mirror on a long straight road if you want a driving analogy. People simply don't understand how many players are injured on other teams...far more than on the Bills. Last year the Bills had 140 man games lost to injury, 4th lowest in the NFL. Tennessee had almost 350 by comparison! Year before that a team had over 400! Every year under McD Bills have been top 5 fewest man games lost, with 140 being the MOST they have ever had...usually its between 100-120, including least in the NFL twice and under 100 once. We think injuries were bad last year and by comparison to previous Bills teams under McD they were...but compared to the rest of the NFL they are still very much far better off.

Not comparing them individually, I am comparing them combined. Bernard/Milano is by far the best combo if we could have it. I am simply saying that by the end of this year, this combo will be better than Edmunds/Milano last year...mostly because I think both players will be better than Edmunds by that point. Must not be watching games since he has been awful and the Pats have the 31st ranked O in both pass AND run. Their OLine might be as bad as the Giants.

Why would you expect Von to look the same after he hasn't played for a year and is coming off an injury that typically takes guys at least 6-7 weeks of playing to start looking better? Your own completely unrealistic expectations is causing the issue there not Von. They can lose a lot because McD's scheme is designed to limit the impact of those losses. See last year as exhibit A. Far less than most people think actually. And that is almost always the case when the games are actually played. Yes...those 9 points they scored were impressive.

Not the worst injury report we've seen.

You mean their 31st ranked run and pass offense. Yes...huge challenge it would seem. Watch other games much? You know that players do improve typically in their rookie years as time goes on right? Usually pretty massively. That's why I specifically said end of the season.

I don't think Williams will reach Milano's level either, I just think the Bernard/Williams combo will be better by the end of this season than the Edmunds/Milano combo from last year...but not as good as the Bernard/Milano combo we saw this season.

This is sounding like the Browns 6-3 win against the Bills where Derek Anderson went 2/17 passing yet still did enough to get the Dub against us.

Isn't it amazing how bad teams are almost defined by being in position to make easy plays but so often not making them? Like the Giants being on the 1 yard line at the end of both halves last week but coming away with 0 points.

Rich Gannon...he accomplished far more than Alex Smith did.

I'm not sure how they could sub Williams for him when Williams would already be on the field in 95% of those situations.

I have watched Dorian Williams play the last 2 games and have come away really impressed with this kid...the dude is all over the place...yes in the Jags game maybe he was a little TOO "all over the place" as he overran some runs, but he also had some fantastically athletic pass breakups too. Last game was much better and he shed blocks a few times to make tackles for short gains better than I ever remember seeing Edmunds do. I strongly believe that by the end of the year Bernard/Williams will be better than Edmunds/Milano last year as a tandem on the field, once Williams gains experience. That being said, I still think Bernard/Milano would be the best combo for them...Milano is just so good, it's crazy. Dude does everything well. I just think Williams is a better fit for what the Bills are trying to do on a down to down basis than Edmunds was and will prove to be even better once he gets more reps and experience as the season moves on. Bernard is already Milano "Lite" and has been nothing short of remarkable for us. Thoughts on this? I know it's a little bit of speculation and some high praise for Williams who we haven't seen enough of, but I think this kid has it at LB.

He hasn't had a 1000 yard season yet in 4 years, but Garrett Wilson did with Zach Wilson throwing him the ball as a rookie last year and so did Chris Olave throwing with Old Man Dalton throwing him the ball. As another poster so eloquently put it...Jerry Jeudy plays more like Judge Judy.

This...100%

Must have also won 2 MVP's and 3 all-pro nominations because of it also. Yeah...he sucked, you are right. Gannon just got the MVP because voters felt sorry for him. He sucked too apparently.

Wink Martindale coached the Giants D like he was fired up from getting thrown off as the host of Tic Tac Toe again.

Bills 34 Pats 13 The only game Belichick has really stopped Allen since he has become elite has been with the help of 70 mph winds. Other than that he has basically had no answers for him. Besides slamming the phone and breaking a tablet I mean... Looks like there could be some showers and wind in the area tho...

The Steelers game from last year?

Get this thru your brain. McDermott is NOT getting fired after this season for any reason. Him and Beane just got extensions. They are not going anywhere.

Uhh...in no place did I ever compare Davis to Samuel. Davis seems to be running the same routes that John Brown ran in this offense before he got here...deep overs/crossers, go routes and comebacks. Same way Kincaid is running mostly the same routes that Beasley was running...choice routes and being the dump off guy for Allen in the slot. And Harty is running most of the same type of routes that McKenzie is running and is the "gadget" guy. Seems like there are pre-defined roles for each receiver in this offense and what is being asked of them. Not sure why this would not be the case in other offenses too...the route concepts being ran are the route concepts being ran.

You don't really seem to know much of anything to tell the truth based on this conversation and are making giant leaps to conclusions that you have no basis for defending other than "it must be this". OK, based on WHAT exactly that is factual and not some random opinion of yours? Players have roles on teams, how is it a stretch?

Basically I am asking how he knows that Davis cannot run other routes versus Davis is running the routes that anyone who plays his position in the offense(X, Y, Z or whatever they call it in this offense) is running because those are the route concepts for a player at that position to run. He can only run the routes that he is supposed to run. OP is making a giant jump to conclusion that Davis cannot run other routes so they only ask him to run a few routes. I am asking how he knows that another receiver that replaced him wouldn't be asked to run those same routes because that is his role in the route concepts of the offense at that position and not be given all the other routes he isn't running.

How are you so sure that Davis isn't running routes that any receiver that plays his position in this offense would be running due to the concepts they favor versus Davis cannot run those routes? The short answer is you don't, so all of this is speculation on your part. Unless you have some inside knowledge or are a fly on the wall of the Dorsey/Daboll meeting rooms. Are you suggesting he should just go out and run whatever to "prove" he can run other routes that aren't what he is being asked to do?

What WR do you care about on KC? Do they even have 1? Are you claiming they aren't a SB contender?