Big Turk

Bills 38 Bucs 19 Have a feeling Bills are going to explode offensively this game from the get go and not wait til the 2nd half.

Yes, especailly from protection standpoints...Allen seems under siege in the first half but gets much better protection in the second half. I don't think people realize how the Bills have been nearly unstoppable in the 2nd half lately...last 9 "real possessions"(minus the failed lateral at end of Jax/Pats games) they have 7 TDs, 1 missed FG, 1 TO on downs after gaining 42 yards(Knox drop in Pats game). 0 punts. The issue is the lack of possessions since the D can't get the ball back for them and allow long drives and/or scores so they only get 3 or 4 possessions.

No it's only taking into account weeks 5-7. It has nothing to do with any weeks prior to that. The title of the chart is literally EPA/Play in weeks 5-7.

Listen Sal! Don't make me send a man in a cat suit after you! 😂

results are skewed because they usually happen on teams that have no talent, but it's an "attempt" to salvage something. Hard to make much a difference when your players can't play well tho. Likely different results on teams with talent that need a kick in the ass.

Is Allen's shoulder worse off than they are letting on? Also did Von reinjure his knee? Looked like he was limping after a play but had to stay on due to Pats going no huddle then didn't come back in...only had 6 snaps.

He also led the Bills to 6 points against the Jags, the worst performance of the Allen unleashed era.

Said it was a little sore but no major issue...he isn't wearing a sling like 2020, which I would assume would be the case if there was any structural issue. Knox is hurt tho...wrist surgery and is out for a while.

Wow...that is rough...dude is a trooper trying to play through that, but it's obvious he wasn't right.

Except Daboll's offense in his second year was as inconsistent or worse, statistically speaking.

That's not true...in 2020 they had some of the best blitz pickups I'd ever seen from an OLine and backs...literally looked like Allen had a wall around him and nobody was even getting close to him.

He is condensing the formations and bringing in extra lineman to draw more people to the box and give his receivers one on one shots on the outside. Those are usually the play action passes that Allen hits deep shots on and they have been super successful with them. Issue is they are so successful passing out of these, the D now in the last few games many times has not even bothered with the run action and just played pass...it's how that pass intended for Knox INT in the Giants happened...Okereke didn't even bother with the play fake and just dropped into coverage. Pats did the same thing yesterday a few times. Ignored the play action fake and just played pass.

You need to pay attention closer then. They have been near unstoppable in the 2nd halves which is further cemented by the fact that in those 3 games the Bills are 2nd in the NFL in EPA/play on offense only behind KC. It doesn't seem like it because they aren't getting many possessions. When they do, they are scoring TDs almost every time. 1st halves they suck. 2nd halves, they have been scoring at will even if the drives are taking longer than we are used to.

No. The issue that needs to be fixed is figuring out why it takes an entire half to figure out an opponent gameplan and how to protect properly against it. 1st and 2nd half are complete opposites of each other lately. 1st half the O is ineffective, 2nd half mostly unstoppable. This SHOULD be very fixable much sooner than halftime.

The issue seems mostly 1st half related and their protection schemes. Allen under duress most of the first halves lately, 2nd halves he has more time. O has been unstoppable in the 2nd half, they just don't get enough possessions since the D allows long drives and scores also. Last 9 "real possessions" of the 2nd half, 7 TDs, 1 missed FG, 1 TO on downs after picking up 42 yards, 0 punts. Much better than what we actually think, mainly because of very few actual possessions. Weeks 5-7 Bills are actually 2nd only to KC in EPA/play. It's a big overreaction to say the offense as a whole isn't effective. The issue that needs to be fixed is why does it take til halftime to adjust and why can't you make these same adjustments after the 1st or 2nd drive of the 1st half? Fix that and they go back to putting up crazy numbers.

So it seems to be specifically a 1st half issue. Mainly in terms of them being able to protect Allen properly and it takes them until halftime to figure it out. Then in the 2nd half the O is unstoppable mostly. Last 9 "real possessions" in 2nd half. 7 TDs, 1 missed FG, 1 TO on downs after gaining 42 yards. 0 punts. So then it becomes, why are those answers not there after the first or second drive of the first half? What are they doing at halftime specifically that they couldn't do after a drive or two when you keep seeing the same things over and over again?

That's a silent snap count to alert the other OL the ball is being snapped. Every team has a guard that does it when they are on the road. Chargers do it every game since they play 17 road games a year.

Did you see how he got smoked trying to provide help on Hill on that TD throw? They had him doubled and he ran by both of them like neither was there

Bills have been the 2nd best offense in the NFL in EPA/play over the last 3 weeks. Let that sink in for a minute. The problems are not always what you think... Yes, the offense hasn't been good in the 1st half. They have been near unstoppable in the 2nd half but are being hindered on D since they are not getting enough possessions. They need to simply start playing better off each other as a team and they will again turn back into a juggernaut.

The offense is not as big of a problem as you think...Weeks 5-7 Bills are 2nd ranked offense in EPA/play next to KC. It's all situational...and the D not getting them enough cracks when they get on fire in the 2nd half of games. First half, they are not good, 2nd half they have been nearly unstoppable...just no help in the 2nd half from the D to get them more possessions.

Stay clueless my friend.

It wasn't a career day...I think that came last year against the Vikings even tho they lost.

Uhh...because unless he gets up to speed he won't be of use to them later in the year when they need him? This isn't that hard. He isn't being rushed back, if anything they played it safe. This is part of the normal process every player on every team goes thru. Should be common sense by now from seeing these over 20+ years of these injuries, but it seems not to be, which is kinda mind boggling actually that people still don't know how this actually works.

How else do you think he is going to ramp up and get back to normal? Could have said the same with Tre last year. Or with any player the first 6-7 games back from an ACL outside AP. There is no other way. Nobody has a magic wand unless you do and you haven't notified anyone.

Coming off an ACL it makes no sense to expect him to be back to his normal self immediately. Have you ever played sports? It just doesn't work like that...players need to get into game action and ramp up and get back to game speed. Thinking he is going to just come back and be the same player he was last year before the injury is mind boggling since we se this all the time with players and virtually all the time they need at least half a year if not a year to get back to themselves...except if your name is Adrian Peterson.