Big Turk

He actually HAS been a pretty high percentage catch guy the last 2 seasons, that's my whole point! The first 2 years, it was low 50% area. The last 2 years has been at 69% and 73.5%. That's Kelce, Kittle, Andrews, etc territory and in some years better than them. People keep trying to say he drops the ball but they simply are maintaining an initial bias from their first opinion of him that no longer exists. This would be like people saying Allen doesn't complete a high percentage of his passes and isn't very accurate based on his first 2 years.

It seems to me from what I remember is that protection is better and he has more time. They also seem to be running the ball better keeping things more balanced. I know the Giants game it all stemmed from running the ball more.

Orlovsky is saying a lot of the same thing...Bills are very inconsistent with being "prepared" for situations when they don't already know what's going to happen. The thing that is concerning to me is these are basic concepts of what to do in those situations that we are failing at...like "replace the blitzing player and throw the ball to the voided area" or "read hot if this player is coming". Too many times the plays are there to be made if basic concepts are followed but instead it causes Allen to hold the ball or try to flush. Look at the players in those breakdowns and how wide open they are right away and Allen doesn't know where the answer is to those and HE SHOULD by now. That's a concern. Literally it's a simply see it and throw it to a wide open guy. Who does that mainly fall on? Allen? Dorsey? All of them? These are simply base concepts they are failing at far too often.

DHop would likely even be a pick swap candidate..like trade a 5th for a 6th back and DHop.

Hands have been far better the last 2 seasons... 69% catch rate in 2021 and 73.8% catch rate in 2022. First 2 years were not great, in the low 50's, but has become about the same as other TEs over that time that are good. Last 2 years have been very comparable or even better than TE's like Kelce, Kittle and Andrews... People talking about his drops are showing how little they actually pay attention to what is going on and simply keep bringing up tired narratives from his first 2 years that haven't been issues in his last 2 years. Pay attention and watch more football. Also, didn't he have some sort of eye issue that was identified and fixed or am I thinking of someone else?

Here we go again...WHY DO THESE LIVE PRESS CONFERENCES ALWAYS CUT OFF THE ANSWER TO QUESTIONS? Comes back on so you can hear the question but then once McD starts answering them, it cuts off and goes silent. WTF is the purpose of even broadcasting them live then?? Just wait until it's over so you can fix the audio on both ends.

I dunno man, he has made some big red zone TD catches for us...to beat the Chiefs last year, playoff games...think he scored TDs in like 6 straight games last year. People acting like he is some JAG are pretty far off base I think.

Tomlin won his SB in his 2nd year...made the SB again 2 years later and lost...hasn't been back since in 11 years 😧 Also has never had a losing record there tho...perhaps that causes more issues than it solves if they need a few bad years for high end talent in the draft?

Godwin, Mayfied and Vea were all DNP estimations for Monday

Should not have been playing the last 2 games. He was a shell of himself and then had to shut it down. Probably wanted to go since Morris was out also and they are thin at options.

He said "There is no foul for illegal man downfield on the play"

Reminds me of the "Just give it to them" call against the Pats. That has NO relevancy to the play. Whether he is blocking anyone or not, doesn't make it OK for him to be more than 1 yard downfield. It's still a penalty even if he is dancing by himself downfield.

I think it works in tandem...if the O can jump out to a big lead, it puts more pressure on the opposing team to try and pass more to stay in it and causes them to become more one dimensional, which helps pass rush and TOs usually. With the Bills doing little on offense until the 2nd half, when they have caught fire, BTW, other teams can keep running the ball and keep the Bills team off balanced more which makes it easier to eat clock, sustain long drives and give the Bills O fewer possessions. That's what McD means when playing complimentary football...the O helps the D by building big leads to force teams to be one dimensional and the D gets the ball back to the O with TOs and punts. It kinda causes a positive feedback loop once it gets rolling. With the way it's happening now, it's actually causing a negative feedback loop. The O can't score in the 1st half when the D plays halfway decent most of the time, then the O gets cranking in the 2nd half but the D can't stop anyone. Very disjointed right now.

Teams don't always finish with the same records or better every year...Levy went from 12-4 to 9-7 one year before going 13-3 2 seasons in a row. Every season has different variables and challenges to them that need to be overcome and sometimes injuries play a bigger part in some seasons than in other seasons.

Drought era futility while having the highest winning percentage in franchise history and winning playoff games in every year since 2019 while making the playoffs 5 out of 6 seasons so far? Are you mad? That's about as far from drought era futility as you can be.

They don't need one. They are transitioning to playing a more team defense oriented game and currently haven't figured out how to do that without greatly reducing their transition and scoring opportunities, but they will. Defense has looked much better the last 2 games and PK has been great all year. PP is not good right now only converting at 6% but they are getting chances...those will start going in soon. Team has far too much talent for that to take too long before they figure it out.

Same thing happened with the Sabres and Lindy Ruff. Great coach...it was just time for a new voice.

There is somehow the thought that just because a person hasn't succeeded yet, it means they never will. What most people don't understand is that failure is your greatest teacher most times and if you harness the lessons learned from that, it is what propels you to future successes. Show me a person who has never failed and I will show you a person who has not accomplished much of anything. Could you imagine where we would be as a society technologically if people just gave up trying after it didn't work for a few years? Ask Thomas Edison.

Yeah, there is truth to that too at times...sometimes the same voice starts falling on deaf ears when they have heard the message too many times.

He was really good with the Jags and is a big target that can get downfield. Kinda like a Davis clone but better at other things also...abysmal catch rate tho...makes Davis look like the most surehanded receiver of all time. Career 55.2% catch rate with a HIGH of 61.9% when he had his 1000 yard season with the Jags in his second year

It was egregious... 1) It was a forward pass 2) The man was 5 yards downfield(allowed to be 1 yard downfield) 3) It is irrelevant if the pass thrown is behind the line of scrimmage. This is the NFL, not High school. In the NFL that doesn't matter. That was a 100% penalty and was so bad the NFL could use that in their training videos for officials on what constitutes an illegal man downfield penalty.

That's just it tho...they usually play their best against good teams when the chips are down.

Addison almost helped me pull a 99% loss out of my ass...opponent had Kittle tho so after I took a 3 point lead, Kittle getting a few receptions ended up making me lose by 4...not bad considering I was expected to lose by 60+ going into the game thanks to a bunch of dudes on IR and bye weeks...

Don't think there is any timetable for how long it takes. Could be next year, could be 5 years, could be never. You just don't know.