Big Turk

The truth is the Bills margin for error is at it's slimmest margin since 2020. Teams no longer even have to play their best game or have the Bills make tons of stupid mistakes/penalties/etc to be able to beat us. Now the Bills can actually play decent enough without TO's and still just lose.

CJ Stroud is going to be a problem sooner rather than later. He already has leapfrogged Trevor Lawrence in that division. They are a lot of fun to watch...kinda like the Bills were in 2020. Throwing the ball all over the place, tons of people involved. Likely will slow down once teams get a better read on him and the offense by middle of next year, but he is for real.

Not a chance in the bloody pit of Hades a team is going to hire a guy and pay him $6-8 million a year and then hire a "Nanny" for him on top of that because he is incompetent at 90% of the job.

You cannot be serious with that. That's not how things work in life or any other job that I have ever been a part of.

He doesn't, but it must be really miserable to have to work with him and people are likely waiting for him to be gone at this point. His style works when you are winning, not so well when you aren't. All the other great coaches in that style found that same thing, Parcells, Knox, Noll etc. Nobody wants to listen to that crap when they are getting their heads bashed in every game and you don't have the answers to fix the problems.

Look. I don't care how good his offense is, being a coordinator and being a head coach are almost 2 completely different jobs. One is 90% fully X's and O's and the other is maybe 5% X's and O's and the rest people, off-field issues, holding others accountable, delegating properly with knowing when to hand tasks off and knowing when you need to step in and take charge and other management related issues. It's why so many coordinators are great at what they do but can't manage all the other parts of what they need to do as a head coach. It's like going from running a single store to being a CEO of a 5,000 store chain. No different than how there are a lot of really great assistant managers who are awesome running the store for a few days while a manager is gone but then they get promoted to run their own store and all the other things like doing P&L's, inventory, ordering, etc that they never really had to be fully responsible for as an assistant or only did bits and pieces of it and they fail miserably. He HAS to have the skills required as a HC first and foremost. No matter how good he is as an OC, he will fail miserably if he doesn't have the needed skills.

Belichick's leash with things must be almost non-existent at this point. He must be taking out his frustrations on everyone around him constantly. Think he knows it's only a matter of time now.

They are also still 7-2 and leading the AFC because they now have an elite defense. Basically they have become what we were last year although slightly less good on offense.

The title does not accurately depict the topic of this thread, you should probably change it to make it reflect that.

They are showing what is happening in this specific game against the Bengals. But it seems the issue is that Dorsey does not evolve as the season goes on and so once teams start determining what the Bills are doing, there isn't much else that he has "up his sleeve" so to speak to counter that. What worked a few games ago is not going to work as well over the next few games if you don't have anything else other the same type of route combos without any window dressing to at least make them think it's something else.

Because it means the throws he is consistently having to make are much harder throws/completions than other QBs are being asked to make. Which means, when he isn't performing exceptional and maybe only "average", he is going to look not great. Whereas, if his throws were easier more often, we would not get in situations against good teams where they are able to prevent some of these since they would be easier plays to complete to begin with. Essentially you are taking the floor up higher which then moves the ceiling up higher whereas right now with the floor being so low, against good teams, the ceiling also is lower. Which is why it is starting to remind me of the Fitz offense under Gailey, because that's exactly what happened with them...start out the year hot and putting up big point and yardage totals, then teams figure it out and they basically might score early then not do anything until the 4th quarter, or not do anything early and only score in the late 3rd/4th quarters... Bills have played from behind probably double the amount of time ALREADY this year than they did all of last year combined for the whole season.

This also seems to be an issue...Allen is far outperforming what the "average" would be with things most weeks. Dorsey needs to get that average trending upwards so when he far outperforms it, it is like the Dolphins game.

I mean they set themselves back big time by re-signing him...he was their Tyrod Taylor(ironic since they also have Taylor)...get them to the playoffs, then dump him, go to your backup for a year(or move up high enough to draft a QB), get a high pick and then pick your QB. They tried to short circuit it by re-signing Jones to a ridiculous QB contract based on 15 TD passes. The Bills plan was there for them to follow and they chose to try and get greedy and not go thru any pain. Except now they are both going thru pain and they have no way out of the contract for at least another year or two. They are literally nowhere and are in danger of turning into the drought Bills.

By the letter of the law, it's the "right" call, but literally you could call this 5 times or more every game. Almost never see it called and it's pretty interesting that it gets called in this situation to knock them out of FG range. Collinsworth was flabbergasted at the call and explained that it is an option route where the QB thought he was going to continue deep and the WR hooked it up and that happens all the time. The Rules Analyst tried to explain that it doesn't matter and that if the ball was "overhead" it won't get called but he thinks it was too far away to be "overhead". Seems like he was really stretching especially since Allen wasn't under duress on the play which is the point of intentional grounding...he is throwing the ball away to avoid a sack.

I'm wondering have the Bills tried to go back to more zone runs versus the gap scheme which is what actually is what is effective for the last 4 years and they seem obsessed with trying to get zone runs working but without fail they end up going back to gap scheme more often again...seems like the run game has really tailed off and I would bet it's going away from gap runs that has caused it.

This is pretty interesting stuff and talks about some issues with the offense in more detail and to why they are happening... points made: 1) Dorsey's efficient offense is limiting Allen 2) Dorsey seems to be light on details and it usually seems to happen when it matters most. Details matter, especially against good teams/defenses. 3) Dorsey has nothing "built" on top of his regular plays to hit chunk plays once they run them multiple times in a game. No layered concepts. Defenses are willing to give these easy plays to teams now to protect against bigger plays knowing they eventually will screw up or get aggressive. Also ends up shortening the game by our own hand. Dorsey accepts these too often without trying to scheme up bigger gains. 4) Too often the playcalls require Allen/Diggs to do something exceptional because the plays aren't designed to work against the coverage that is being shown(ie, having no man beater concepts for a play against a 1 high man coverage look) 5) Offense seems to lack direction and sometimes it makes you wonder what the "purpose" of a play was in the situation it was called in because it doesn't accomplish anything. 6) Dorsey seems happy to take what the defense is giving without aggressively attacking like Daboll did often times. Hard to continually score with 12+ play drives. Need some explosives at some point. 7) Dorsey is not scheming up any explosive plays for the Bills too often. 8 ) Allen is not without fault. Sometimes he isn't making smart plays. 9) Players must be getting frustrated because too much of the heavy lifting is done by the players on the field and not on the OC with the play design.

Based on last night? What game were you watching? He is the only reason why the Bengals didn't have over 30 points. Dude was all over the place on pass breakups.

Anyone with All-22 Access, has the Bills lack of any real run threat in most of the last 5 games related to a return to them attempting to run zone schemes again? Just seems they are obsessed with zone scheme even tho in 4 years the Bills have ALWAYS sucked at them, to the point they switched to gap scheme a lot more after the byes the previous 3 years and got the running game going... This year they started out the year with gap scheme runs and were doing well but it seems lately they may have gotten away from it and gone back to more zone runs? Anyone with insights into this would be appreciated to chime in...to my eye it seems like they have gone away from gap scheme runs again to their detriment, as usual.

This is him basically saying "I delegate that responsibility to my OC to do what he thinks is best during a game and this is really on him, but I am not going throw him under the bus directly." Honestly, he is taking bullets for Dorsey right now and not publicly disparaging him. Behind closed doors, I wonder what is going on tho.

Jets are so bad on offense it's laughable, but that defense is something else...if they ever get even halfway decent QB play they are going to be a real problem for anyone.

Nobody on D anymore, that's part of the problem.

Not sure what he can do in that situation when he is somersaulting in the air like that and can't get his other hand on the ball. Just gotta tip your cap to the defender on that one for a heads up play. Sucks because we likely are scoring on that drive after he gets inside the 10 yard line. But Kincaid is starting to show why the Bills moved up for him...dude is going to terrorize teams for years to come.

8-1 Eagles.

I feel like I am watching the offense under Chan Gailey and Ryan Fitzpatrick far too often lately. Score easily on one drive and then do nothing for extended periods, then start moving the ball later in the game again. There is no excuse to EVER look like THAT offense with Josh Allen and Stefon Diggs on your team. They better figure it out. It's honestly flat out unacceptable on offense.

Daboll is showing he is a much better OC than Head Coach and that last year was an aberration. He has been brutal far too often, including in our game.