Big Turk

You are not a pro athlete...the treatment and surgical recommendations are far different between normal people and athletes. Athletes routinely have surgery for things that normal people would just let heal on their own to get them back faster and/or strengthen the injured area to help prevent reoccurrence.

Yes, this is silly

Something almost unfathomable... This is the 3rd straight Prime Time loss now, something the Bills and Allen typically have excelled at.

Daboll isn't coming back and his offense had lots of issues too, namely that our run game too often was stuck in the mud for long stretches...let's not look back with rose colored glasses.

I think you are just seeing that it's very hard year to year to be consistently great in the NFL. The odds are stacked against you in every way possible. What the Bills have done is not common, and while some struggles can be seen as a step back, it's really not much different than in 2023 or even 2021 at this point of the season. In 2023 we were 6-6. Nothing matters until the playoffs really. I mean sure the 1 seed would have been nice but that's likely not happening now.

Wouldn't have really mattered as Davis was called for OPI

Doesn't really matter what we think, it's what happens usually. Allen ignites to another level during that time usually. In the 13 seconds season, Allen has the best 2 playoff games combined in NFL history in one post-season. The weeks before that were bad a lot of the time and they really struggled offensively a lot.

It's just a continuation of the 13-11 pattern we have been in for the last 5 years 13 wins and looking unstoppable most games during one season followed by 11 wins the next season with lots of struggles along the way. Then back to 13 the next year. But come playoff time, none of it seems to matter, they kick into gear.

I remember in 2020 when the Bills used to eviscerate the top D's in the NFL.

All good things must come to an end

I mean the Chiefs stocked their D pretty effectively drafting lower than we were.

I mean the Eagles do it far more than the Bills do, as do other teams...it's just a way to fit things under the cap

They allowed 261 yards of offense and 3 points in the 2nd half when a turnover already put them in FG range. Think you are not being realistic. That game was on the offense...they got chance after chance after chance in the 2nd half and kept squandering them.

For reference that was on the 4th and 1 run to Cook that got stuffed when Brady decided to run Cook 4 straight plays and don't get the 1st down...

We don't remember how disjointed and bad Daboll's offense looked at times?