MarkAF43

oh so now you are too good to do this? :

no apologies, no forgivness!!!!

Don't you think? ML wont have to worry because he will be forgiven by elegant and life will be glorious again for ML

thats still not the question i asked.... so go back read it and then talk to your press secretary and get back to me

man you really must be a politician, cause only one of them can attempt to twist my words into something like that

you are right, just another person with a self serving agenda..... hmmm, maybe he's a politician

you must be kidding........ do you? Elegantelliotoffen, think that the perception of the victim involved is changed as well, just like with a witness to the same accident? Edit: can't really clarify it anymore than that, stop reading into it so much

why do you keep avoiding the question about the perception of the victim involved? I know the side you take regarding the witnesses but why won't you answer about the victim?

No, my question to you is quite simple, don't read more into it. Do you think that the perception of the victim is not altered as well as the the witnesses who saw it happen?

you still didn't answer my question...... do you not believe her perception of what happened that night has been altered?

Ok great article, but going off of what you highlighted, don't you think the view of the victim is altered? Especially if they had been drinking as well? I would think the perspective of the people involved would be altered just as much as a 3rd party witness

First of all, i have never attacked the victim and secondly no one is making excuses, they are setting out different scenarios that could have happened, and it seems you are unwilling to accept them

wow reading what you right, you remind me of Dilldo...... i for one do not have a "childish affection" for an athlete.... He made a mistake and if he apologizes for it, then we all move on and go forward. Don't dump on Lynch because the whole system is screwed up

it wasn't so much comparing the two... I was more referring to the fact that Turk is saying the right things to give the appearance of not running the show the way Fairchild did.......

spot on! just looking for something funny with Lee Evans and when that popped up, figured I would use it

I am not defending Lynch at all, but to throw unfounded comments out there is just irresponsible( and not just the people on this board, anyone who is doing it, if you don't know what happened because you weren't there, don't say anything you personally cannot guarantee accuracy).....on a moral level what he did was extremely wrong and i think it's ridiculous that he did it (if he knew about it at the time). The realization is that in the world of professional athletes they can get what they want, and for the most part get away with what they want. Will I now look at him differently? Yes, because I don't have kids but my GF does and I don't want them to think something like this is right and it's accepted. But until the world stops holding professionals in such high regards and gives them every opportunity in the world to get out of any given situation , nothing will change. These athletes have been handed everything once someone realized they had a "gift". It's got to be difficult to automatically change and be a good citizen, when most of your teenage years and early 20's people are willing to throw anything your way because you are talented. Then they sign a contract to make millions of dollars and are expected to change overnight? Our society is setup to enable these athletes and until something causes a major change, it's going to stay the same way.

Ok should have clarified, i was referring to the criminal case, not the civil one

really? Cause if you can't prove it that night, well you got nothing anyone see him drinking? anyone see him drunk?-- better yet, did you? no? well that's a pretty ballsy statement

what proof do you have of that?

that's a broad brush to be painting with...... I drove home many a night from Chippewa and I was stone cold sober.... don't assume he was drunk because it's a high party area

yea everyone knows, it was repo Joe who took his car

well that's what my thoughts are, saying the right things now and doing different things are fine now..... but I want to see if it translates to real changes for this team.... thats all

I will hold off until we see how things go in a game situation, but so far he appears to be doing and saying the right things to not be like Fairchild

Yea those two drove me nuts.... so... talked to any good Janitors on a bus lately zane?

so true, it's the same thing i tell people everyday when they complain how high their premiums are, and i say, well the days of you paying a $10.00 copay and your dr billing for $500.00 with charges like band aids and whatnot, it's a big part of what caused this whole mess