MarkAF43

Look, my wife was running late. MW was in the car in his full gear (really just a Bills halloween costume we got him), and we arrived by 1030. Where he was between 1030 and 12 I can't speak for. But I had him there.

Just sayin, I took the Bills in one of my survivor pools and I'm quite quite happy today. ( on the flip side ugly win, but hey it counts)

Stayin

This "HATER, AND EJ LOVER" crap is idiotic. We're all Bills fans, and the fact is if someone is rooting for one player to be better than another on our team, then that person isn't a fan, they just want to be right. Bottom line.

It's funny how you completely ignored my question. Are we all supposed to bow down and chant about how great Orton is? No, he's been better than EJ, but that's where I draw the line. This "HATER, AND EJ LOVER" crap is idiotic. We're all Bills fans, and the fact is if someone is rooting for one player to be better than another on our team, then that person isn't a fan, they just want to be right. Bottom line.

Why is it every individual who comments on Orton struggling or not playing great as a hater? Same logic.

INto the abyss we go

As others have said, he goes in as Peyton Manning.

we had two girls in front of us yesterday in Bills gear that watched about ten seconds of the game, they were taking selfies and talking the whole game. I made it a point when our D was on the field to yell as loud as I could right between them so they couldn't hear.

I noticed idiots around us yelling and I quote " throw to CJ, he will score", in the 4th quarter with our Defense on the field. And I can't believe the people behind me whining to sit down please. Sorry, not happening. Deal with it.

I think this topic is embarrasing. I think the OP is embarassing.

They were hurt in the same game today. It's the exact same thing as you saying the odda of urbik and wood getting hurt in the same game.

My bad. Since we were talking O line my assumption was you were talking about Chris Williams.

Williams is on IR

Who is worse? Him or Pears?

Probably the same odds we lose FJ and CJ in one game.

The only thing a fan should worry about at the end is this. Our final score is greater than the opponents. Everything else is secondary.

I've heard of embarrassing losses but not embarrassing wins. So when the pats beat the jets on a last second field goal block was that an "embarrassing win?" Whats embarrassing is the "fans" who want to piss and moan even when we win. Get over it all you doom and gloomers we won. Be happy for five minutes.

Actually, if you've read anything I've said in regards to the officials, I've recommended that the officials are not part time employees as they currently are, and that their evaluations and scores from each game are made public for the fans to be able to see to clear up and show transparency that the officials aren't getting away with anything. And for anyone to sit there and say the #1 reason we lost last week was because of the officiating is taking a cop out and giving our team a pass when the fact is that they didn't deserve to win that game, not even close.

My god, this thread is just full of pathetic whining, it's not fair, wahhhhhhh. We lost because we were outcoached, and when our D was needed to make a play we couldn't make it. Penalties hurt, but they hurt every team. In fact in the game the Pats had a TD called back on a penalty and what did they do? Went back down and scored. Why? Because thats what good teams do. Right now, that's not the mentality and mental toughness that this team has, but it needs to get.

This is one of the most ridiculous statements that I've seen. Main reason? Our vaunted Defense which couldn't make a stop when needed to get the ball back is more than likely the BIGGEST reason we lost.

Absolutely. With the fact that it's the most popular sport in America, it's a bit of a black eye to have game day officials that are part timers. They should be full time, consistently reviewing tapes, reviewing calls, looking at constant ways to improve and make the game better for the fans and the league. They shouldn't be part time, and I've yet to see anyone argue in the defense of why they should remain as only part time.

It blows my mind that in a multi Billion dollar industry, the on field officials are part time. They all hold other positions during the offseason, which to me makes no sense. If you have players and coaches working year round (basically), why aren't the officials doing the same thing?

I guess that's kind of the direction I was going. The entire conspiracy theory that games are fixed will never go away because the league protects that information with their lives. It lends that idea to folks that games are rigged, because no one ever sees how officiating crews/individals are punished or reprimanded for blatantly incorrect calls during a game. Yes, we all know if they aren't rated high enough, they don't get playoff games and the Super Bowl, however it would only be a FIRST step to showing it's fans that the NFL doesn't have anything to hide in regards to it's officials.

Here's my $0.02. You want to calibrate and hold the officials to a higher standard? Publish their weekly report cards, and make it more transparant as to how they score out on the NFL's scale. I don't think they do that yet, so why not start?