MarkAF43

I get that, I'm not always thrilled with the players and on field performance, but I still couldn't quit being a fan.

I just can't comprehend the ability of some to walk away from being a fan when for the majority of us it's been ingrained since we were small kids. This team frustrates the hell out of me, but there is no way I could ever just be done and give up on them. Good or bad, I'll always remain a fan.

not saying this just in regards to the OP, but I can't shake this nagging feeling that those of us hoping for some medium to large size changes won't happen and we will be left disappointed again.

What about it pisses you off?

What evidence do you have to support that?

sooo question in regards to the player option Orton has next year. If he chooses to pick it up (for that money who wouldn't?), can the Bills still cut him without any financial liability? Would they still be on the hook for his cap money?

No and wellll thanks for sharing your tweet.

ok, ok I'll say it...... Terry and Kim are cheap.

Where the hell am I backpeddling? Are you a complete idiot? I haven't backpeddled away from anything. Show me stats that show Orton is leaps and bounds better than EJ.

Is that really any different from the people who say EJ is so horrible he shouldn't even be allowed on an NFL sideline after 14 games?

Obviously your reading comprehension needs work. i didn't call you a grade schooler, I said you hurl insults LIKE a grade schooler. Nice assumption about Orton though, I've asked questions about Orton and you've not answered them. Take out the 2 Jets games and show me how much better Orton performed compared to EJ.

I went off on you? Not by a long shot man. for real, deep breath, go outside, get some sun and just relax. It's going to be ok.

Dude you need to lighten up. You may not feel this way but you come across as completely high strung and ready to step onto the ledge. My stance is simple. Hackett needs to go. He's a JV coach who is completely and utterly over his head at this point in time. Take a deep breath and think about how you're coming across. Right now you're acting like crazy stalker girlfriend and thats why people on this board are giving you a hard time.

I won't even justify that with a response. You can use the search button to see my feelings on Hackett. But I will say this. There is a big degree of irony in the fact that you get mad when people threw assumptions your way, but yet you do it to everyone who replies to you.

this is my favorite thread of the day. Proteus--- do you have any background running an Offense? Want to be our Offensive Coordinator?

I love how you make random assumptions about posters here while you whine and cry like a 5 year old who doesn't want to take a nap does the same to you.

Man I love this board. I really do.

what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

here's a question about Orton. next year his option is a players option to return. So if he returns, can the Bills cut him anyway? Or is there anything that prohibts that from being done? You know what? Every single time someone calls you out on your EJ bashing, you take a shot and change the subject, but when it's brought up that Orton isn't the answer you hurl an insult like a grade schooler and change the subject. The facts are there. Taking away the 2 Jets games and the garbage time yardage, there is little to no difference between the QB's. So IMO I go with the one with potential which is EJ. Orton is what he is, there's nothing new he's magically going to do to be better.

Kirby I have a question. If he was such a good coach, why didn't someone else hire him? Why has he been out of the league the last 2 years? I'm not bashing, I'm just asking for your thoughts.

I too thought I was at that point with the wins being nice but the losses not stinging as much, but yesterdays loss stings. I think it stings most because I want this team to not lose games they're supposed to win.I want it for the guys like Kyle Williams who deserve to be on a winner, and leaves it all on the field every single week. I want this team and the fans to know what it's like to look at the schedule and go oh hey 2-12 team, that's a win, not wellll maybe it is but maybe we will lose. Last night after the game, I went with the wife to finish Christmas shopping and got over the loss pretty quick at that point. Made me again realize there is so much more to life than football games.

By the way, hands down one of the WORST calls I've seen officials make.

This kid seems to have entitlement issues and it doesn't seem his elevator reaches the top floor. You would've hope he learned after getting the boot at Clemson, but apparently not.

he played?

I said almost the exact same thing in another post and it's so true. Good teams beat bad ones. It's why the Bills don't get national recognition as a true contender because good teams don't lose games they're supposed to win. Sunday played out as good as one could've hoped in terms of the playoffs, and the Bills once again showed they could not handle their business. It's frustrating, but when people ask why this team doesn't get national recognition, this type of game is exactly why.