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and like Moulds, it will probably take him 3 years to figure out the pro game- if does at all.
There are only so many fly patterns you can have a WR run before he actually has to learn the offense.
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So, because some WR's take time to develope.... you want to wait even longer to draft one?
pssssst, if we wait another year to get a WR, and they take 3 years before they are able to catch a single pass, it will be 2012 before we have a legit WR opposite of Lee.
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-Phillip Merlling Becomes Chris Kelsays clone. Whoever drafts him will be disapointed.
-Derrick Harvey doesn't produce as much as you might think. Watch one of his highlight videos, tell me #49 doesn't create the pressure while harvey cleans it up.
-McFadden is more Reggie Bush than Adrian Peterson.
-Sweed and Thomas will both be solid pros.
-Dorsey and Ellis will both be VERY good in the pros.
-Jonal Saint-Dic will be a very good late round/UDFA steal for someone. (probably not us, doesn't fit our system)
-Aqib Talib will be the worst CB to come out of this years draft. (out of the first/second rounders)
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Sweed and Thomas both look impressive. If that trade with the eagles works out, and we still get one of these two, I'll be a happy man on draft day.
BTW, just watch Harvey's video and tell me that #49 doesn't create all of the pressure while Harvey just cleans up the scraps. And is it just me, or does he look awful thin in that video?
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Out of all 122 franchises the Bills come in at #57. Thoughts?
FWIW, the Sabres are at #23, Phins are at #108, Jets at #105, and I find it hilarious that the Leafs are at #121
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You've inspired me....
Here are 1st/2nd/3rd DLmen choices for all teams over the last 8 drafts......10-6 records or better in bold.....5-11 records or worse in red.
Vikings 4/2/0
Eagles 4/1/3
Rams 4/0/2 Marc Bulger (although injured most of the year)
Texans 4/0/1
Saints 3/1/1
Patriots 3/1/0 Tom Brady
Cowboys 3/0/1 Tony Romo
Jets 3/0/0 Chad Pennington
Chiefs 2/3/2 Brodie Croyle
***Bills 2/3/2***
Ravens 2/3/0 Kyle Boller
Cardinals 2/2/3
Giants 2/2/2 Eli Manning
Bears 2/2/1
Packers 2/0/3 Brett Favre
Bengals 2/0/1
Browns 2/0/0 Derek Anderson
Jaguars 2/0/0 David Garrard
Broncos 1/2/2
Titans 1/2/2 Vince Young
49ers 1/2/1 Alex Smith
Steelers 1/2/1 Ben Roethlesburger
Colts 1/2/1 Peyton Manning
Seahawks 1/2/1 Matt Hasslebeck
Panthers 1/1/2
Falcons 1/1/1 Mike Vick
Buccaneers 1/1/0
Chargers 1/1/0 Philip Rivers
Raiders 1/0/2 Jamarcus Russel
Lions 0/4/1
Dolphins 0/1/0 Anthony Beck
Redskins 0/0/0
I conclusively conclude that any conclusion is inconclusive.
Could it be that having a franchise QB has something to do with not sucking? And that no matter what your philosophy is (drafting offense/ drafting defense), that whether you win or lose begins at that position?
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I am so confused who is the best WR. Sweed has the best work ethic. Thomas might be the best. Jackson is the best play maker. Hardy is the tall WR we are looking for. Doucet jumps out in tape, even last year-over KC's Bowe. I am very confused who we are drafting. A trade down makes way too much sense
That's part of the reason I have him as my number one. Good work ethic, strong, tall, fast, good hands, and TOUGH. That wrist injury everone keeps talking about... He played through the pain and didn't have the surgery to fix it until AFTER the season was over. My kind of player. Plus, he would have been slotted to go in the 10-15 range if it weren't for the wrist injury.
Thomas might be the most talented, but it's a risk to take a one year wonder. (I wouldn't complain about picking him though)
Jackson would be a good pick if we didn't already have Roscoe. Although there are reports coming out now that he doesn't have a good work ethic (doesn't like the weight room)
As far as Hardy is concerned, I love the player, not sure about the hitting his GF/son thing. Some people say that he is past it, but I would wait until round 2.
Doucet is a WR with good production, OK speed, about 6 foot tall, from LSU. Remind you of anyone? Yup Josh reed all over again. (they are eerily similar)
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Limas Sweed at 17 and an extra 3rd. Sounds good to me
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That's because a lot of people oversimplify. Its always a balancing act of need vs talent. You have to consider the group of talent that you can get in the first 3-4 rounds and whether drafting a lesser need in R1 prevents you from filling bigger needs with quality talent. As this appears to be a thin draft class, I think it very well might. If the Bills have a WR rated highly enough that they feel comfortable picking him at 11, they should just do it and be done with it, particularly if they aren't high on that second tier at the position.
Of course, I still can't understand why the 1st round WRs suck and would be horrid picks, but these 2nd-3rd round guys will magically make this offense so much better.
That's the part I don't get. Soooo..... in order to fix the offense we should draft a bad WR who is worse whan the bad WR's slated to go in the first round?
Nice post BTW.
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A league ranking of 30th in Offense.
A league ranking of 31st in Defense.
Viable?
You win with points, not yards.
And having an NFL record for players on IR, having several other players injured, Ellison starting, Tripplett starting, K. Williams starting, Steve Fairchild, hard schedule, half a season of JP starting, a rookie QB starting in the other half, and playing "the best team of all time*" twice had a little something to do with those rankings.
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no, the ones who have completely rebuilt it into a viable franchise within the last 2 years.
Beat me to it. Tommy Donahoe had a little something to do with most of that.
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I decided to do a little research....since 2000 here are the WR selected in the top 15 each year
2000 Peter Warrick, Plaxico, and Travis Taylor
2001 David Terrell, Koren Robinson, Rod Gardner
2002 Donte Stallworth
2003 Charles ROgers, Andre Johnson
2004 Larry Fitz, Roy Williams, lee Evans
2005 Braylon Edwards, Troy Williamson
2006 NONE
2007 Calvin Johnson, Ted Ginn Jr
by my count you have 3 Studs(all drafted top 3 FWIW), 3 stars, 2 servicable, and 8 bums/too early to tell...I can never think of a good time to take a WR ealry...they are a luuxury item...get some big kid in the 2-5th rounds, that is hungry to make the team....
A. Johnson, Plaxico, Fitzgerald, R. Williams, Evans, and Edwards are all VERY good WR's. If it wasn't for his back injury, Calvin Johnson would already be there with them. That's 6 of the picks that got what you would expect.
Robinson and Stallworth are good WR's, but not first round quality.
The rest are busts, or just didn't warrant a high pick. You can't really tell what Ginn is gonna be worth (Definately not worth #9). He could be a playmaker, but not yet.
Maybe someone can do some research, but that seems to be the bust rate at most positions.
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When we have a coach that loves to win with the run game and tough D......
Because if we have the 7 dwarves at WR no one will respect the passing game. They will then stack the box (just like last year) making it very difficult to run the ball. Also causing Lynch to have to break tackles all of the time to gain meaningful yards.
Not to mention that an actual WR lining up across the feild from Lee, takes double teams off of him. Another Legit WR means that their safetys can't cheat to one side of the feild/closer to the line of scrimmage.
And last but certainly not least, adding a red-zone threat/go up and get it on third and long/able to go across the middle of the field type WR really helps out our 2nd year developing QB.
BTW if this class is as weak as a lot of people are saying.... why would you wait to get a worse WR than the terrible ones expected to go in the first? I personally think Limus Sweed would be slated to go around our pick (10-15) if it wasn't for the wrist injury. If hes healthy, I say take him at 11/wherever we might trade down to.
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As am I, favorite non-Bills player in the league. Would absolutely love it.
I'm with you on that. Just watching him break 4-5 arm tackles on a single play is amazing, especially for a WR. And unlike chad/TO/Moss hasn't been a distraction on or off of the feild.
How great would draft day be if we could land Boldin?
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Win- Sept. 7 Seattle Seahawks 1 p.m.
Win- Sept. 14 at Jacksonville Jaguars 1 p.m.
Win- Sept. 21 Oakland Raiders 1 p.m.
Win- Sept. 28 at St. Louis Rams 4:05 p.m.
Win- Oct. 5 at Arizona Cardinals 4:15 p.m.
Oct. 12 Bye
Loss- Oct. 19 San Diego Chargers 1 p.m.
Win- Oct. 26 at Miami Dolphins 1 p.m.
Win- Nov. 2 New York Jets 1 p.m.
Loss- Nov. 9 at New England Patriots* 1 p.m.
Win- Nov. 17 (Mon.) Cleveland Browns 8:30 p.m.
Win- Nov. 23 at Kansas City Chiefs 1 p.m.
Win- Nov. 30 San Francisco 49ers 1 p.m.
Win- Dec. 7 Miami Dolphins (at Toronto) 4:05 p.m.
Win- Dec. 14 at New York Jets 1 p.m.
Win- Dec. 21 at Denver Broncos 4:05 p.m.
Loss- Dec. 28 New England Patriots* 1 p.m.
Yeah, I said it... 13-3!
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I noticed in the picks thread, you still listed the Iggles at 49. I traded that pick to the Bengals for Chad.
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"Like my good freind Michael Irving always say, "defense do not wins championships, points wins championships""
"The Miami Dolphin became the first winless team to ever win a game in a regular season"
I keep hearing Emmit's voice when I read all of the picks. Very funny
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So old people related to some guy named Peter make their puss quarterback cry? Sombody get Russ on the phone! I have a plan....
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One can only hope this year turns out so well.
Kyle Brady over Warren Sapp.... Tards. -
I nominate a sticky for this.
I'll second that.
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I like the direction the Bills are headed with personnel. Don't like what the coach is doing with the players. To win in the NFL you need a winning level of talent and a winning approach to the game. I don't see the winning approach. I do see the same DJ that I watched here in Chicago for several years. That's really disappointing to me. When he was hired by the Bills, several friends here in Chicago chuckled and said to me "good luck". I defended the hire then saying that Jauron will have learned a lot the first time around and will be better for that experience. So far I don't see that. What I see is the same overly cautious, manage the game to keep it close and hope to win it in the last 4 minutes crap that he deployed in Chicago. His public presentations from week to week about the last game or the next game are mirror images of what he said here in Chicago. It's a friggin miracle that the bears won 12 or 13 games that one year when he was coach. They had an amazing stretch of lucky plays at the end of games and played in a very weak division. My Bills crystal ball shows a rise in the talent level in Buffalo with a playoff birth and early exit in '09 and that being the peak of the DJ era. Being wrong about this would be great. I was wondering if you saw that.
As for DJ, I would like to see him take more chances. But with JP and a rookie at QB, a rookie RB (who didn't pass block too well) and not a lot of talent surrounding them I didn't mind it much last year.
With his job on the line, I think he loosens the reigns a bit.
Is it September yet?
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Before we all come to the conclusion that Fairchild leaving will mean a quantum shift in play calling, consider this. It is usually the head coach (and Jauron has stated this in interviews) that will recommend a type of play in a critical situation. He may not call the exact play, but he will tell the OC in a 4th down situation, goal-line situation, 3rd and short, etc to "I want to run" or "throw it short" or "two tight ends". They also game plan for these situations. Fairchild does't just decide to run in goal-line situations all by himself. He calls those plays based on what they have already planned to do in critical situations or with input from the HC at that time. Y'all might be disappointed again this year unless Mr. Jauron shows some confidence in the offense and is more aggressive about scoring points.
But instead of running right up the middle with an undersized backup TE playing FB, and right behind our weakest lineman. We might actually run between the tackle/guard or even (dare I say) outside.
And We also have a new O-line coach. Who has stated he was going to change our style of blocking to better fit our personel. (more man, less zone)
Plus the coaches have already stated they were going to call more slants/crossing patterns (which would be more than the 2 we called last year)
Add in that we will have a new WR and TE (probably), and I don't think it will be as similar as some think. The biggest change might be in the rezone if we do get a new WR/TE. We would actually have the personel in place to throw the ball in the endzone
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our OL was incapable of converting 3rd and short last year which is why the offense scored so few points.
Fairchild also compounded the problem by not even atempting to throw the ball in to the endzone.
Albert is a better choice in the 1st round than any WR.
1) Fairchild is gone so that'll help. He loved to run the ball right up the middle, problem is we have a center as our weak leak (and I do mean weak) BTW Albert doesn't play center so he wouldn't help here either.
2) One of the reasons they didn't attempt to throw in the redzone is because we have smurfs playing WR. No O-lineman is going to make our WR's taller/stronger.
3) Albert will be a backup (you said it yourself), and him sitting on the bench won't help us run the ball on third.
4) If Sweed didn't have the wrist injury he would be projected to go top 10-15. If he is healed, (which I think he will is) I would take him at 11/ wherever we might trade down to.
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#2 WR, FB, CB (If you count nickle as a starter). I want to say TE, but have a feeling that Royal would get the nod to start due to his blocking. (similar to how they used A-Train last year despite him being far less talented)
Last years draft gave the Bills their 2 most popular players among fan
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As funny as it sounds, I might put Moorman at #5. My top five would go:
1. Lynch
2. Whitner
3. POZ
4. Peters
5. Moorman