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Seriously? Talent difference maybe? Head Coach difference maybe? Front Office and Scouting Department that understands talent maybe? Those Fewell lead D's certainly looked awesome while bottoming out in Run Defense most every Year (28th in 2006, 25th in 2007, 22nd in 2008, 30th in 2009)...Good God talk about short memories... Look nothing against Fewell who is a decent Coach, but the Giants front 7 makes the Bills look like a Pop Warner Team...He was a beter Coach than Jauron...I'll give him that much...But to be perfectly honest much of what I've read in this thread is further proof that the Football IQ on this Board is at an all time low...

You're dreaming if you think Ryan Mallett is a 2nd round Pick...He's about a mortal lock for the Top 10 of the 2011 Draft...And Ponder will probably sneak into the 1st Round as well...

LAMP

The Mallet and Locker evaluation is going to be a nightmare for some Teams...I prefer Mallett right now but I would love to see the Kid get out of his own way every now-and-again and stop reminding me of Bledslow at times...On the other hand, when I see that arm on Mallett and the fact that he's completed over 65% of his Passes for over 1000 yds vs. Georgia, Alabama and Texas A&M...Well... With Locker I would love to see him be more accurate, but his physical ability would make anyone excited... Maybe it's all going to come down to what type of system you run and who your Head Coach is...I'm hoping this is a Manning, Rivers, Big Ben type of year at QB and that way the Bills really can't go wrong...But chances are that's not going to happen... Good luck Buddy...You'll need it...

Agreed...Even though I don't believe Locker is 1st Pick Overall-type material he's clearly a 1st round Prospect. If only because he's a QB and nothing more...He's got a lot of work to do...But he's got a lot of upside too... And did I mention he's a QB...

Interesting that Ellis had 5 Tackles and a Sack in the 1st Game...He's played less and less as the Defense has gotten worse and worse...And he's the one that gets cut...Anyone else find that a bit strange? I mean, it can be argued he had the best pre-season of any Player on our Defense...This is another in a long line of strange moves if you ask me...It's almost like they did this to shut everyone up about the Kelsay extension...Cause my thought was always that Kelsay should give way to Ellis, if only because Ellis was younger and needed more PT so the Bills could evaluate him...I don't know...

We haven't, true enough... But we have to separate Buddy from the Drafts before he got here...It looks like Spiller is going to be a pretty good Player in time and a HUGE part of this Franchises future...We'll see how the rest of this 2010 Draft pans out...But I'm not going to assume that just because DJ and Marv were a terrible talent evaluators Nix will follow in those footsteps...I won't assume that yet... I would be MUCH more at ease if they would get rid of Modrak and bring someone in that has had some recent success in the NFL Draft...Grab a Scout from a Team like Baltimore that runs a 3-4 and always seems to do a good job of bringing in young talent, and elevate him to Head Scout in Buffalo...Something, anything other than Modrak...No matter what his involvement has been Modrak has the stench of failure all over him and his Scouting Department...Gotta clean that house...

He's not getting any better...On a better Defense he would get picked on even more because he's a liability...He would be a big hitter if he was a Corner...But he's not...So he's really not a big hitter compared to quite a few SS's in the league...So he's made a couple big hits in 4 Years...Big deal...I still can't understand why he's on the field as much as he is...I'm not just saying this to hate, I truly believe George Wilson and Bryan Scott are better Players. I think both are more instinctive and if given the chance they'll make more plays than Lil' Donte...I'm guessing Donte is on the Field more due to his Leadership Position on the Team...Cause it's certainly not due to his play...He's constantly a day late and a dollar short out there...He would be average for the 8th Overall Pick in the 4th Round...He's a constant remainder of how terrible Levy and Jauron were in evaluating talent...It's a joke...

I could see both Carolina and NE possibly taking Luck or even Mallett high...Carolina is going to have a new HC and probably a new GM...So there will be no loyalty to Clausen...Brady is no spring chicken and up to this point the Pats have done little to secure his eventual heir...The Patsies are most definitely savvy enough to take a Top QB if they fell in love with the Kid...And lets not forget about Cleveland in this mix who would almost assuredly take a Top QB like Luck (assuming he comes out) if they get the chance...So the Bills will have PLENTY of competition for one of the Top QB's in the eventual Top 5 of the 2011 Draft...Getting the #1 Pick or picking 2nd behind Detroit is about their only chance to assure getting the QB of their choice...

Really?

Right...Well...My life is outstanding...I hope yours is as well! And all the heart in the world is never going to make Lil' Donte a top tier NFL SS...It's not like I sit around and look for things to find fault with concerning him...I'm a Buffalo Bills Fan...Have been for 40 plus years now...There is nothing I would wish for more (well maybe a couple things) than for Donte to become the player the Bills thought he was when they used the #8 overall Pick on him...But the the tape don't lie...You can't hide out there... I don't question his heart...I question his ability and instincts...He's a liability out there...I wish it was different, but it ain't...

That's hilarious...Didn't Darryl Talley just comment on this type of thing? And don't worry, I'm sure the Day Spa is full service... I'm sorry...I know there is really nothing wrong with this stuff...I know it does not necessarily mean a guy is a metro-whatever or feminine...I'm sure Lil' Donte is a tough guy and all...But please for the love of God can we just get rid of him once and for all...Best of luck to him, but honestly I just don't want the guy on My team for reasons on and off the field...

Or any Year since Manning...Right? The Bills don't need the next Peyton Manning...They need a QB that, in a few years, will be significantly better than Fitz or Brohm...I think there are plenty of Prospects coming out next Year with that type of potential...And none of them will be as good as Manning...But then again neither is Eli, Brees, or Big Ben and they all have SB Rings too...

Right...And those numbers could not have anything to do with which Player got the ball more in the red Zone and Goal Line during their time in Buffalo could they? No offense but when I read stuff like this I wonder whether or not you're actually watching the Games or just skipping them for the comfort of the stat sheet...Have you noticed Freddie having problems getting into the End Zone when he's been given the Ball in the Red Zone? Have you noticed that Marshawn is some kind of break-away-at-any-time-for-a-TD threat terror? The TD numbers are just that...numbers...If Freddie had been given the same opportunities I suspect (based on what I've seen him do most of the time during his career when he gets the Ball) he puts up the same TD numbers or even better than Lynch...Just like the yards per carry...

That may be...But I'm guessing no matter what stance you put them in a better football player will find a way to make plays...You're giving Maybin credit he does not deserve at this point...He basically makes zero plays...Nothing...Notta...Gotta be more than the stance Bro... And go ahead and stand him up over there and watch how Teams Run right at him...That's what they will do I 100% guarantee it...And it may very well be the reason they line him up the way they do...The Kid can't play the Run...His Head Coach has already told us that and the HC before him seemingly agreed...If he can't get leverage in a 3-point stance how is he going to get any standing up? Just saying... Look if you want to say give him some time I'm OK with that...But blaming Coaches?...I don't know...Coaches who have had at least some success Coaching OLB's in a 3-4 suddenly can't Coach this Kid? I'm not buying into it...He's just not that good yet...

Right cause the truth has to deal with 100% speculation...Unless you can see into the future of coarse... Terrell Davis was pretty much done at 26...Marcus Allen played into his late 30's...A couple Months after his 28th birthday Bo Jackson, the best overall athlete I've ever seen, suffered a career ending injury...Ricky Williams is 33 and physically he looks like he can play another 3-5 years easy... It's all relative...You're statement is not "the truth," it's your opinion...

Some Scouts like Todd McShay loved Maybin...They got enamored with his 1st step and assumed he would fill out in time and become a monster...Others like Mike Mayock had SERIOUS, and I mean SERIOUS reservations on whether or not the Kid could ever stand up vs. the Run in the NFL... Taking a situational Pass Rusher with the #11 overall Pick is a joke...And at this point, say what you will about this supposed developmental time that he still needs, Maybin looks like a Part-time player at best...Watch him on the Field...He's NOT a natural...He's just not...There are guys who came into the NFL with lean builds who are naturals...Jason Taylor and DeMarcus Ware are two that come to mind immediately...Clay Matthews weighed 240 at the Combine...Brian Cushing weighed 243...Maybin weighed 249 at the Combine...Maybin is simply not in the league of these other guys as a football player...He's just not that good or instinctive...He's just not...The weight thing and body-type are all just excuses for the fact that he basically has no idea what he's doing out there...Right now, he's just not very good and no where near where the #11 overall pick should be... I agree that dumping or trading Maybin now is not a good idea...But lets not get carried away with the promise of a new day with this Kid...If he was better he would be making plays...Until he starts doing that I don't see how it matters what any Scout said about him before he was Drafted...Scouts are wrong all the time...And as of right now the Bills were dead wrong to Draft Maybin...No getting around it...

Fair enough dave, but what was the alternative? They Drafted Spiller and that's what sent this whole thing in motion...Like it or not, that's where they are today...The market for Lynch was the market for Lynch, good or bad...But something had to give and I don't think there was any way the Bills were Trading Fred Jackson because they value him MUCH higher than Lynch overall...So no question chances are the Bills don't get equal value in return for Lynch...But what they do get is more PT for Freddie and CJ, and a less clogged, more content backfield...They get 2 Players who are not just good but great locker room guys and they get rid of a clown...He's not a horrible kid necessarily(unless of coarse your the person he runs over or their family) or a bad teammate, but he's a clown...And this team does not need a clown right now...So call it addition by subtraction, or whatever, but I can't see the harm in this regardless of what they get with that 4th...And who knows...Maybe they get the next Dre Reed for this franchise and it turns into a monster deal...It could happen...Even a blind squirrel catches a nut every now and again...You never, ever know...

Amen... But it is funny how Bills Fans, who actually do watch the Games, seem to miss this...It's not a knock on Marshawn either...Freddie is simply the better RB overall...

That may be true, but I just don't see how it matters. Why extend a Player who is below average? Especially when you're in an obvious re-build...Makes no sense at all...None...But I guess we should all be used to it by now... Honestly it's an embarrassment to be associated with this Organization in any way...Even if it is just being a Fan of 40 Years...

The Pats ability to stay ahead of the curve on Draft day over these years, and other Teams willingness to allow them to do so, is truly astounding...It's an amazing job being done up there...They seemingly re-stock every year...

This much we agree on...Hindsight is always 20/20...But Lynch was simply not a good fit for Buffalo...

Please...Let's not bring facts into this argument...

Was that sarcasm?

SD Chargers 4th Round Picks from 2001-2008 2001 - Carlos Polk -LB - Nebraska 2002 - Justin Peelle - TE - Oregon 2003 - Matt Wilhelm - LB - Ohio State 2004 - Shaun Phillips - LB - Purdue 2005 - Darren Sproles - RB - Kansas State 2006 - No 4th Round Pick 2007 - Scott Chandler - TE - Iowa - with the Cowboys now, on the active roster 2008 - No 4th round Pick I'm not the biggest Nix Fan in the world...But..Just saying...