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I'd take Pierre-Paul, Anthony Davis, Iupati, Brian Bulaga, Maurkice Pouncey, all ahead of Spiller... BUT... I'd take Dez Bryant over all of them...Period...He's a HUGE play-maker...Remember, there was at least a few people who believed Bryant was a Top 5 talent...His Game transferred over from College and then some...He's a stud... Pass on Tebow for now...Maybe if he develops a bit of a Passing Game by this time next year he could enter the discussion...I would still rather have Bryant though...

I'm sure there was one...maybe even two guys on the Texans message board that said the same thing last year...

Agreed...But I'm starting to wonder exactly how far this Team can go building around Fitz...I don't question that they can be a Playoff Team with Fitz at QB if they improve Defensively, stay healthier, and get him WR and more O-Line help...And sure, if everything goes right, he can play lights-out and even win a Playoff Game...But I don't know if he's ever going to be the type of QB that can win 3-4 big Games to get you a SB Championship...And at the end of the day that's the goal (I know...baby steps and all)...I think Fitz is what he is...And it's going to take an exceptional amount of talent around him, and a quite a bit of luck to have a consistent winner while he is the starting QB... In a way, to me at least Fitz is like Flutie...He can take advantage of lesser Defenses and if you're not sound and disciplined he can have a huge day against you...But good Defenses that properly scheme...Defenses understand what he does well, and do whatever they can with discipline to take that away will shut Fitz down almost without exception...He's not bad at all...Just limited...And I would not plan a Franchise around him...For a year or two stop-gap fine...But not long term...Just my opinion...

I just looked this up and to be honest it almost freaked me out...Surely someone has posted this already...But if not... Fitz's numbers through 13 games in 2010 and 2011 are virtually identical 2010 255/441 57.8%, 3000 yds., 6.8 average, 23 TD's, 15 INT's, 81.8 rating 2011 278/449 61.9%, 3013 yds., 6.7 average, 20 TD's, 16 INT's, 81.6 rating Now I know there was a HUGE amount of conversation last summer about whether or not Fitz would continue to grow or regress...And I think the answer is...Neither...He's exactly the same QB as he was in 2010...He neither grew, nor regressed...And I'm guessing this is who he is...

I hear what you're saying...But I'd give up just about anything and the Kitchen sink for Luck...So I would not go as far as to say "under no circumstances."... No way Indy Trades the rights to Draft him...But if they did...

So? What's your point? And for the love of whatever, why is it some posters around here are more concerned about the Fans and what they think, and what they say, than they are about the gd Team?...I'll never figure that one out...ever... If you have an argument to support staying the course why not just give your side instead of worrying about what other Posters or fans think?...Posting about what all the Fans will or will not think or say comes off as fanboi-ish and reeks of over generalization... Just saying...

I asked this in another thread...And it may be a bit of an exaggeration...But when is the last time an opposing QB threw an incompletion vs. this Bills D in the 1st half? It's freaking nuts!

One thing is certain...No matter what he has to say he's gonna give that smug "we know what we're doing" attitude I've grown to despise...I understand 100% now why it took him so long to become an NFL GM...

Agreed... It's terrible...

When is the last time an opposing QB has thrown an incompletion in the 1st Half against The Bills? I know I'm exaggerating...But seriously...It seems like everyone we play starts off 11/12 for two TD's...It's freaking incredible...

If you're OK with Fitz long-term strap in for another few years of not-quite-good-enough...Because that's what we're gonna get...He'll have his good Games...A couple great Games...But it will all even out in the end...They better build a dominate D and running game if they want to win consistently with Fitz...I think it's easier to get a great QB...And I know that's not too easy...Because the Bills are FAR away from being able to do it with Fitz for 16 Games...They're like 3/4 of a Roster away...

Welcome to Buffalo Bills Football...Where Teams need no help in beating The Bills...But they get it nonetheless...

We've "wasted" picks on QB's because we've Drafted like crap...We've also "wasted" Picks on LB's, DT's, SS's...etc...etc...What makes you think we won't waste another Pick somewhere else and STILL need a Franchise QB at this time next year?...Fitz is LIMITED...There are Passes he can't make with consistency, especially down the field...I agree Fitz is not the biggest problem with this Team...But there are, and will be, better QB's in the NFL...Want to get good fast? Get a Franchise QB IF one is available...

This is an EXCELLENT point...

This will be my Team until I die...And I like Dareus...But I swear I HATE this Defense so much...When they take the field I'm already pissed off...You just know what's coming...Heartache...

Exactly... Would The Bills pass on Luck if they had a chance to Draft him? Not in a million years...

I was a pretty big Gabbert guy before the Draft, but I have to say based on what I've seen from him so far I agree with this assessment 100%...On one particular 3rd Down and 10 the other night I noticed the TE hooking up at the 1st Down marker and he was open...He had a Defender trailing by a yard or two, and another was within a few yards...But it was one of those tight throws to keep the chains moving type of plays all NFL QB's have to make in there sleep...Gabbert barely looked anywhere, turned around and dumped it off to the back, who I think lost yardage... That Kid looks LOST...He does not have the fire at all...

I've read more than one Mock that has The Bills taking Floyd in the middle of the 1st Round...Don't know if he'll last till the 2nd...

Seriously? You wanna go there?

No way The Colts pass on Luck...Not in a million years...And not for any Trade...If Manning was a few years younger and not coming off a REAL serious injury that would be one thing... The Colts will take Luck...Take it to the bank... Agreed...I think that's why Archie is already talking about how it will be too weird to keep both of them...Manning will lobby the Colts to deal out of #1...When they refuse...which they will...Manning will ask to be dealt...

Right now there are only 4 Teams (Colts, Vikings, Rams, and Jags) who will more than likely finish with worse records than The Bills...There are a TON of Teams with 4 wins who could easily get to 6 (Dolphins, Eagles, Redskins, Panthers, and Bucs)...The way The Bills are playing now, they could easily Draft 5th or 6th in April...I think Luck, Barkley, and OT Matt Kalil will all go Top 5 when things filter out...So while I do think it's an outside chance that The Bills will get high enough to Draft Blackmon...It's certainly not out of the realm of possibility...

Not saying RG3 will ever amount to anything... But I'm pretty sure they said the same things about almost every QB who has been Drafted high...Newton is a PRIME example of that...Carolina had a couple players, but certainly no more talent than the Bills have on Offense...If they can play the QB position at a high level in the NFL they will make everybody around them better in a heartbeat... PS...Listened to an interview recently with RG3 and he came across extremely bright...Hard not to like that Kid...

Well...As soon as they had injuries at the position they brought him back...They had no room for him before that...Ryan said they were trying to figure out a way to keep him coming out of Camp... Schematic flexibility? Looks to me that Maybin lines up on the Left Side on most Passing Downs...Puts both hands down in his crazy stance...And tries to kill the QB...Not much scheme needed there... So you're opinion is Maybin could not provide pass rush for The Bills? I'll give you one thing...Ryan certainly can provide the guidance as a Defensive mind to help Maybin along...But that's part of my point...We don't have the defensive minds in house to utilize a VERY obvious, albeit singular, talent the Kid has???...Even when it's a massive Need on this Team???...How bad is that? Especially when you invested a 1st Round Pick on him... Look, I'm not trying to make Maybin into Superman or anything like that...He is limited and in no way should he have been the #11 overall pick...But he DOES have a talent...And that talent is a major need on this Bills Team...It's actually beyond a major need...And they cut the Kid when there was ZERO reason to do so...You're making excuses for another stupid Bills decision...But worse than that you're basically saying the Kid is not really as good at what he does as it seems...Regardless of how much worse he would be in this Bills scheme, he would still be our best pass rusher...That's how bad this Team needs pass rush...That's all I'm saying... Done talking about it...Make me want to vomit...

Maybin came to the Jets WAY late in Camp and got caught up in a temporary numbers Game...The fact that they immediately brought him back shows Ryan thought he had enough ability to work with...And that "luxury" stuff, assuming the Jets have SO much talent and that's the reason Maybin is getting his sacks and FF's, is unfounded...It's just another way of saying he could not rush the passer as well in Buffalo if given the opportunity...He would be single blocked in Buffalo most of the time too...He can rush the passer...The Bills have NO ONE that can rush the Passer...Even if Maybin is double teamed in Buffalo on every obvious passing down it would help... This article aside (the theory about Maybin being cut to make Gailey and Nix look better by comparison is a bit ridiculous), there is a bigger problem, or maybe even more than one big problem concerning Maybin's release...And Bills Fans should look into knowing the truth instead of belittling Maybin and his one-trick-pony-self... Tim Graham was on WGR Monday Morning and said he talked to Gailey face to face right after Maybin was cut...And even though Gailey would not come out and say it directly, he STRONGLY inferred that Maybin was cut because he lacked the talent to play in the NFL...This coming from a HC who has a Team with ZERO Pass Rush (yes I know Merriman was fairly healthy at the time...SO WHAT?)...They felt as a Coaching Staff that Maybin lacked talent...Now...Maybe Maybin lacks the talent overall to be a Starting 3-Down NFL 3-4 OLB...That can certainly be argued...But he definitely has enough talent to rush the passer...That has been pretty much proven...But this Defensive Coaching Staff, in there expert evaluation and developmental capabilities, did not think Maybin had the talent...That is a HUGE problem... The secondary problem here is that Maybin may very well have been pushed out the door because he simply made too much money to be situational player...The call may have come from above...And if that was the case(which I have no idea if it was or not), for a team that needs pass rush as badly as the Bills do...It's inexcusable... Just another Chapter in the complete joke of a story The Buffalo Bills have become...