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Really?...That's brand new information I had no idea... The "they" I referred to was The Buffalo Bills...This is a Buffalo Bills Message Board...I'm giving my opinion on the Buffalo Bills... Nice CAPS btw...Excitable much? Oh and and that little smiley I had after that statement...That's for sarcasm...You know...When someone is kind of kidding, or half kidding...Get to know your smiley's...They are your friends...

I'm sure they knew a lot more about Whitner too when I wanted them to pick Ngata... I know it seems like I'm being hard on Barron, but I concede he's a VERY good prospect...I do think Barron is being a bit over-valued because he's clearly the best Safety in this Draft...I just don't think he's everything SOME Scouts (like McShay) are saying he is...And I'll side with Polian over McShay any day of the week and twice on Sunday...But the main reason I don't like Barron for The Bills is really not so much about the player, it's about the position and the Team...I believe in Team building and not talent collecting...I just don't think it's a good idea to Draft a SS at #10 for this Team as it is right now, and if I'm wrong so be it...In fact if they Pick Barron I hope I am wrong...If he's the Pick I will hope Barron becomes the next Polomalu...I just doubt it's gonna happen... I do agree about the Spiller reminder...And that's a whole different subject...I was against that pick as well for the same reasons I'm against the Barron pick...And I LOVED CJ Spiller in College...But we already had Marshawn and Freddie, and I did not like the Pick...But whatever...We'll see in a few years if this Barron Kid is worthy of a Top 10 Pick...Because it sure as heck looks like he's going there...

They just picked up on the WGR Report... BUT...The part about Polian disagreeing with McShay's take on the type of Safety Barron is...That's the REAL story here as far as I'm concerned...Like I've been saying all along...He's a downhill SS...And Folks are trying to turn him into something he's not. Just because he is clearly the best Safety in this Draft does not mean he's a FS or that he's going to be able to cover TE's...He's not a turn and run guy, or a cap the top of the Defense guy...He's not the prospect Eric Berry was...IMHO Barron's not an answer for the cover game...At least not the way some are reporting he will be... PFT Link

Thanks Y'all!...It's pretty clear the Board feels Gilmore may be taken before #10, and the preference is Kuechly over Barron and Gilmore...

Exactly... I know some Folks just toss this kind of thing aside...And maybe I should as well...But you're talking about benching a team leader, and pushing last years 4th Round Pick farther down the depth chart when he clearly showed promise as a Rookie...These are SS's who played with ZERO pass rush...It may not be popular around here...But I agree with Belichick....You build a Team, you don't collect talent...LT, WR, OLB, CB...All HUGE needs, and we're going to take a SS at #10?... I'll just say this...I never hope for a Bills Draft Pick to do anything but excel...But over the past few years I have REALLY hated a few 1st Rd picks...Whitner, Maybin, and Spiller...And I already hate the Barron Pick if that's what we do...I think my instincts are pretty good...But if we Pick Barron I hope I'm wrong...

Totally agree with the take on LB and DB...Plus we do have 10 picks...It's not like we can't go CB, S, and LB somewhere during this Draft... That being said I think it's got to be close to 90% that one of these 3 is the pick at #10...I'm feeling it slide that way...But I do REALLY hope for Jeffery in the 2nd...I like Jeffery more than Floyd btw...But that's just me...So...

I agree that Barron may be the best coming out...But Gilmore has a HUGE upside once he gets Coached up...His size/speed, blitz ability, and willingness to tackle is VERY attractive... Martin is a decent long-term project...But he's not a Buddy-type...And he would be a HUGE reach at #10...At #41 maybe...But just maybe...

I would not bet on that if I were you...There are Scouts that feel if Martin goes in the 1st Round he will be the most over-drafted player in the Draft...Martin needs at least a year or two to develop...

Just wondering how the Board sees this scenario...Just my opinion, I think the Pick is going to come down to these 3, but I'm guessing that somehow, someway, one of them will be gone by #10...So I wanted to see who we felt was the most likely of the three to be Drafted before #10 overall?...And who would be the preference of the three? Thanks...

Kendall Wright...A 5-10 slot WR (in the NFL) who is not a speed burner to say the least (4.6 at the Combine...Though he did improve that to the 4.45-4.49 area in his PW)... So...When Buddy said we need a WR that is open even when he's not...We just kind of ignored that because a name guy fell?...And he's falling for a reason btw...In fact they highlighted Wright specifically yesterday on Path To The Draft as a WR who could be falling because of his size/speed ratio...The thought being he's not suited to play outside in the NFL...He would be the smallest WR taken in the 1st Round since Santana Moss who ran a 4.39 at Indy... Good job kids...

Totally agree with this take...Again you build a Team, you don't collect talent...And if need was not a HUGE factor, then why in the heck do we, and everybody else, talk about it night and day? BPA is more of a bluff than anything nowadays...IMHO of course... Never thought of it that way...But you sure as heck got that right!

Agreed 100%...Lombardi said recently that Belichick always told him "You're building a Team, not collecting talent." The Bills have a great Locker Room by all accounts...You need to be careful in that area as well...The Bills have Needs no question...But 13 Picks is way too much...

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Very cool...Thanks for that!

Agreed...Byrd and Wilson are actually viewed as decent on a Defense that got virtually NO Pass Rush in 2011...I'm interested to see how much better they do with the new line-up... Bigger Needs elsewhere...And SS at #10?...No thanks...

I think Fleener might sneak in...Especially to The Giants at #32...

Well...No... But to be fair JP was a QB, and Barron/Whitner are Strong Safeties...And at this time in 2006 there were some teams, like the Bills, who felt Whitner was the next coming as well...I think Barron is a better player coming out...But he's a SS...And I don't believe in Drafting SS's high...Especially SS's who don't project well to FS in the NFL...Whitner only helps that argument...But I hear what you're saying...I would take an Eric Berry type S at #10 Overall in this Draft if that helps...

EXACTLY!!!

Maybe so...But I thought that comment was more directed at everybody and their mother projecting Reiff to The Bills...We'll see soon enough I guess...

He was 6-3-242 at the Combine...

I watched at least 50% of Barron's tape...I'm an Alabama tape junkie...He's a VERY good College player...Especially last year and 09... I still don't think it's a smart pick for The Bills at this time...He's an NFL SS...I know he looks to be this Field General FS type in Alabama...But I don't feel he is going to project that way into the NFL...I think he's MUCH more of a downhill, in-the-box-type SS...Not that he can't drop...But I don't think he's going to be elite, or great, in that area in the NFL...I think his cap will be an Adrian Wilson type SS...Which is very good don't get me wrong, and probably even worthy of #10 overall...But I don't think it's (SS) a big enough need right now, and the Bills have HUGE needs elsewhere...For Barron to play as a Rookie, The Bills are going to have to sit a good Player, and Team Leader, in Wilson...Plus he leapfrogs Searcy who showed flashes as a Rookie...Who are they going to have to sit if the Pick is Kuechly, Floyd, Gilmore, or Glenn? They're trying to build a Team, not collect talent (got that one from Mike Lombardi...he got it from Bill Belichick)... Anyway...If the Pick is Barron so be it...But I'm not going to be too happy about a Top 10 SS...They said great things about Whitner too...Not saying Barron is Whitner...Just saying... If it's B

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Meh...I don't like it... Value chart or not...Especially since they Drafted Reiff, who I don't like for The Bills at all...Maybe if they took Glenn...I don't know...I just think if you Trade with a Team in your Division you need to make them bleed...A 3rd, 5th, and 6th is just not enough for me...

Trading down 6 slots with a Division Rival to pick up an extra 3rd, and two late round picks? And then Draft a guy they seemingly don't want anyway in Reiff? Whatever...No way I do that Trade for anything less than #16 and #47...It's a bad deal IMHO...

Not in 100 million years...