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Meh...I don't like it... Value chart or not...Especially since they Drafted Reiff, who I don't like for The Bills at all...Maybe if they took Glenn...I don't know...I just think if you Trade with a Team in your Division you need to make them bleed...A 3rd, 5th, and 6th is just not enough for me...

Trading down 6 slots with a Division Rival to pick up an extra 3rd, and two late round picks? And then Draft a guy they seemingly don't want anyway in Reiff? Whatever...No way I do that Trade for anything less than #16 and #47...It's a bad deal IMHO...

Not in 100 million years...

Well...The Steelers and Ravens are both 3-4 Teams...So it's at least a lot more possible than Burfict making it in Buffalo as a SLOW OLB in an NFL 4-3...The Ravens would actually be a GREAT place for that Kid to land...Ray Lewis would keep him steady...

That's a REAL interesting theory considering this fact...Of the Top 20 NFL Tacklers in 2011 only 2 were Safeties (one in the Top 10 - Antoine Bethea was 9th) and the rest were LB's...In fact, of the Top 30 NFL Tackle machines only 5 were Safeties, one of them was George Wilson (tied for 25th), and the rest again...LB's...So...

It's a nice dream...That's for sure...

The Jags and Panthers have high Draft Picks at LT...Jordan Gross is a leader on that Panthers Team...Eugene Monroe was a HIGH 1st Rd. Pick in J-Ville...The Jags could use help at RT I guess, but they need help on Defense more...I don't know about those 2 Teams... The Bucs have Donald Penn who was a Pro-Bowl alternate...And they will not pass on Trent Richardson if he's there... The Rams have Saffold and REALLY want a WR...But I could see St Louis taking Kalil if Blackmon is gone, and they don't like Floyd enough... So anyway...I'm definitely not saying Kalil will fall because I doubt it...But it's not a lock any of those 4 teams takes him either...

Some Scouting Reports are better than others on Kuechly...I know Mayock loves the Kid...But Mayock went to BC...Then I read some of PFW's Report on him...Makes me wonder if you can really go wrong with this Kid...I know the perception about him being a high-motor, 10 yards downfield tackling machine...But good greif some Scouts RAVE about Kuechly... A couple quotes fro the PFW Report... "Exceptional football character and makeup — smart, hardworking and has a passion for the game. Lives, breathes and sleeps football. Was described as the type of guy executives would want their daughter to marry during the interview process and as one of the best interviews in the past decade." "One of the safest picks in this year’s draft, the Butkus Award winner is capable of playing any LB position and will anchor a defense for the next 12 years and become a perennial Pro Bowl player. Compares very favorably to Vikings 2006 18th overall pick Chad Greenway, but lack of arm length should keep him inside in a finesse 40 front in the pros. A can’t-miss selection who will challenge the NFL’s all-time tackle records." PFW On Kuechly

Thanks Astro! That was cool...

Unless... If Minnesota takes Claiborne, then Cleveland takes Blackmon...Tampa will take Richardson...Then it's St Louis...Let's say St. Louis takes Floyd...The Jags have a LT, Miami has a LT, Carolina has a LT... It's a long, long shot...But...

Well OK...Casserly's one...That's one out of how many? And a lot of Folks have him between 15-20...I just don't see where he is a Top 10 Prospect, and it's almost 100% guarantee that there will be a higher rated guy at a need position at #10...If it's a smart-hard nosed football player were looking for, I'll take Kuechley over Barron...He's higher rated at a MUCH bigger need position... Like I said before...If SS was a big need, Barron was more versatile, or he was higher rated, I would be more comfortable with the chance of picking him...I just hope this is not Whitner/Ngata all over again if The Bills take Barron, and pass on someone at a greater need area...That's all I'm saying...

So...Your theory is that George Wilson and Da'Norris Searcy were responsible for that 28th ranked run defense??? I'm kidding ya... Mario Williams, Kyle Williams, and Dave Wannstedt are going to have a bigger effect on that run defense than any Rookie SS could IMHO...But we'll see... I'm not saying that Barron would not help the run defense because I'm sure he would...How much more than Wilson and Searcy definitely remains to be seen...I just don't think he's an elite prospect worthy of #10 overall...maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think this Kid is the next coming of Polomalu or Lott...And I don't think it's a good idea to take a Safety at #10 unless the player is WAY more versatile than Barron...At Alabama Barron was surrounded by excellent talent, and almost no matter how good the competition was, the Tide was better...And Saban is a master at putting Defenders in place to hide their weaknesses and showcase their strengths...But this is the step up, the NFL...And Barron is a SS in the NFL...Again I'll conceded the fact that he'll likely be a good SS...But I don't see how that alone is worthy of #10 overall...Especially with The Bills MANY other needs... What I think many of you that keep saying picking Barron would be a good move are simply ignoring is the fact that nobody, at least nobody I can find, feels this Kid is a Top 10 prospect...Not one...CBS.com, Pro Football Weekly, Great Blue North, Draft Nasty, FFToolbox, Walter Football, DraftTek, Scouts Inc (well...they do have him at 11 now...But McShay is probably the Scout I respect least of all), The Sporting News, Draft Countdown, Footballs Future...OK I quit looking...I think you get the point... Add to all this you've got a player coming off double hernia surgery...A SS at #10? No thanks...But if The Bills do pick him I'll have to hope for the best...

I'll just agree to disagree here... I do agree Barron likely is a better Prospect than Whitner...But I don't think that means much...And sure Alabama is a better School now than OSU, but how about 6 years ago? No matter though...I'll never be in favor of taking a Strong Safety this high..And I don't think Barron is the type that can move around much in the NFL...I don't think he's a high cover Safety who can cap the top of a Defense...I admit he should be a good in-the-box SS, and may very well be one of the better one's in the NFL in a few years...But you can get those guys later on...The Bills don't need a Safety right now, and they still need to get better in other areas...I mean they REALLY need to get better in other areas...I could see if Barron was CLEARLY the best player available at #10 how some could argue for the Pick, but I don't think there is any way that is going to be the case...And to top it all off you're talking about a Kid who's had some injury issues... And then there's this...Not saying it's a deal-breaker...But still...Barron trouble I would not be happy with this pick...I think it would be a terrible decision...But of course I would hope for the best...Like I did with Whitner...

Haha! Fair enough...

Exactly!

No offense...But sounds a lot like Whitner coming out to me...Unless you don't think OSU is a big time school that plays against big time competition... He's (Barron) a Safety...A SS at that...Drafting Whitner at #8 overall, and ignoring other MUCH better Players at areas of bigger need is EXACTLY what the Bills will be doing if they Draft Barron this year...It's not the same regime, not the same GM...But it will be the same mistake...He's a freaking SS...Quinton Mikell made 2 Pro Bowls at SS...I'll give you a few guesses where he was Drafted...Adrian Wilson was a 3rd Round Pick...You can get good, serviceable SS's later in the Draft...Taking one at #10 is a MAJOR gamble, especially when you have HUGE needs at LT, WR, OLB, and CB... I hope to God Buddy is smarter than this...I'm not saying The Bills should not Draft a Safety in 2012...But not at #10...No way, no how...

You like him...He's a potential Top 10 pick as a CB, but you don't think he's that good in coverage?... No offense, but you need to watch more tape...He does take some unnecessary chances, and no CB is perfect...But he's VERY good in coverage, especially at the top of the route...

I watched that game and Jeffery did not deserve to get thrown out...Dennard was getting absolutely torched by Jeffery and was frustrated...Jeffery would have had 300 yards in the 1st half if his QB was worth a darn...In the scrap, Jeffery was just standing his ground and the Refs threw them both out...Dennard was being a big baby because he was getting lit up in the Bowl Game and knew damn well it was not going to help his Pro stock...

You know...I've yet to see a single Big Board that has Barron ahead of Kuechly, DeCastro, Cox, or in the Top 10 for that matter...Not one...Now, I'm not saying I've seen every Big Board, but I've been looking, and I can't find one... I think this meteoric rise by Barron is ridiculous and unfounded...I could be wrong...But I kinda doubt it based on what I've seen over, and over, and over again...We'll see...

Agreed... I'm not real big on taking a D-Lineman at #10 either...But I agree where Cox is concerned...I would take him over Barron any day...Brockers too... I don't want to get too wrapped up in need because I do understand how that can hurt you if you go need over talent...But I'm more of the mind that The Bills are trying to put the final pieces in place to make an extended Playoff run...They are trying to fill out a Roster here...They are trying to build a Team...And there will definitely be better options for that Team building at #10 besides Barron...And I think some Folks have already forgot about Searcy...The Bills also have 9 Picks...So Draft a Safety later (4th or 5th Rd.)...I simply don't see the logic in a #10 overall SS...I have visions of Whitner/Ngata dancing in my head...And that's not good at all...

I hear what you're saying...But I think this is a relatively common misconception about Barron going around...That misconception being that he is a lock to excel at Free or Strong Safety in the NFL...And I just don't see it that way...I don't think he's an NFL FS...Though I readily admit he's a very good SS prospect... Below are a couple Scouting Reports that I feel back up what I see in Barron when I watch him...Everyone agrees he's a good prospect...But I think if you put him back there at FS, especially early in his career, he's going to struggle...And even though I think it's stupid for The Bills to even think Safety at #10, I could maybe understand a little if it was a guy like Eric Berry who was REAL versatile...I don't think Barron is that type of player...But I guess we'll see in time... Walter Football National Football Post

Well...The reason I said "then some" is because IT'S NOT A NEED ON THIS TEAM!!! So I hope the Kid can help out a bit elsewhere... Seriously though...Of course if he turns out to be like Reed it would be OK...But I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that Barron's career will be NOTHING like Reed's...And Barron is a SS only...I think IF Barron caps out he'll be more like Adrian Wilson...Barron IS limited a bit...Like I said before...Barron is a good prospect...But he's not an elite prospect...He's fast enough, but not REAL fast...He's a downhill player but like many SS's he has problems when he has to move and react side to side, or turning in coverage...He's a good, solid, SS prospect...The best one in this Draft and no doubt a Top 15 Prospect...But for this Team, at this time...Well...I'm obviously not on board...I'd rather have Kuechly, Gilmore, Glenn...heck even Kirkpatrick, over Barron for The Bills...But that's just me...Or is it? Barron is not an NFL Free Safety... Next...

Kuechly would start over Morrison at OLB...That much I'm pretty certain about...If you Draft Kuechly you start him at OLB with the hope that he will be the LB that stay on the field for all 3 Downs...He'll have to beat out Barnett for Dime situations...And that may take a bit...But I'm sure that would be the hope if you take him at #10... I agree...Urlacher is not a good comparison with Kuechly...They are different players... I still think the best comparison is Sean Lee...

BPA is not the right thing to do every time across the board...Easy example? There are Scouts that have Trent Richardson as the #1 Player overall in this Draft...Ahead of Luck, ahead of RG3...So should the Colts take Richardson? Of coarse not... But I'll play along anyway...IMHO there is no possible way Barron will be the BPA at #10...No way...And I REALLY mean that...Plus he's a SS...And like Luck vs. Richardson, you cannot disregard position, especially when it's not a definite area of need...If he is the top guy on The Bills Board at #10...which again I doubt...then The Bills need to Trade out of #10...It's that simple...