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Not sure I agree. They've had a lot of success with Frazier. As someone said, you're pulling your hair out then realize the other team scored less than 22 points--again. As for Dorsey, the continuity with Allen is important. Plus, the numbers don't lie: this offense scored points and moved the ball, despite truly mediocre talent outside of Allen and Diggs. I'm happy to continue with both. I do think Beane needs a better scouting and pro-personnel department.

Totally disagree. I think the OP nailed it. The team was emotionally exhausted. They went through shite no other team has been through, and it's not an excuse to point it out. Yes, all flaws are just as relevant, from talent and coaching to individual performances. But they've been running on fumes since the Damar episode, and they finally hit empty. Easy to say they should have used the many traumas as fuel to win it all. Really easy. Have another beer while saying it.

Not sure I'm done with him, but he's not elite and should not be paid that way. He's a nice player who disappears a lot. Elite players don't disappear like he di today. Rousseau was a good pick, and Jones was a good pickup. Miller was a brave gamble that was paying off until he got hurt. The rest play like backups. That's a lot of picks and money that could have gone into much better players.

Why not blame it all on Billy Buffalo? You don't blame Spencer ("Look out!") Brown, Roger ("Ole!") Saffold, or "Drops" Davis, or the mauled defense. Instead, you blame the one truly elite player the team has. Why didn't he escape the three DEs in his face--again--and catch the perfect ball he put in Davis chest? He's regressed!

Apologies, didn't know that. I hear a lot of misogyny where I live and get tired of it.

Close to a haiku! Try this: H20, nice guy Wants to smack women and girls Must miss Chiefs Planet

I feel confident about this game. I think the Bills will win, and Elam, Shakir, Boogie and other youngsters will do fine. I'm only worried about one player: Dean Marlowe. He's the wildcard. I just hope the rest of the defense can make up for his play. (Yes, he intercepted a pass last week, but he admitted he was out of position and got lucky.) Even if they can't, I think Allen and the offense can. I think we're going to see a more powerful version of the Bills today than we've seen in a long time.

Exactly. It's a short-passing game, but that doesn't always mean quick passes from Mahomes. Sometimes Kelce gets open quickly, but other times he moves around within ten yards while Mahomes buys time until he's open. For some reason that I cannot fathom, teams (like the Bengals last night) insist on covering him with a linebacker. Put it all together--an escape-artist QB (up to now) with excellent accuracy, an exceptionally elusive TE, and a LB in single coverage, and you have "He's open every play!" It seems to me the answer is to put a safety or big CB on him, maybe two. Take your chances elsewhere.

Josh Allen had that gruesome injury to his throwing elbow and on the next play hit Davis in the chest with a 69-yard throw. If Mahomes runs for 69 yards in one of the next plays, I'll finally agree to see him as Allen's equal.

We could be watching an offense that could be scoring 50 points a game and is slumming with 30. Watching them, I get a sense that something clicks, they could blow out anyone. It's also obvious that Allen needs another blue-chip receiver and a reliable right tackle. So maybe 30 pts/game is all we're going to get this season. (I'm ok with that.)

Always fun to post a sarcastic reply rather than following the discussion and adding to it.

Right. It comes down to which is more important to the success of a team with a star QB: a strong offensive line, a strong defense, or a strong set of receivers. I would say the Bills made the right choice going with defense. Trouble is, Miller and Hyde are injured, taking away much of that advantage. It's like if Chase on Bengals got hurt, or one or two of KCs lineman. I still think the Bills will win it all. The coaching, the team bond, and, most of all, Allen's ferocious will to win is the difference.

The critics are saying that the Bills' offensive success is pretty much all due to Allen. I agree. Mahomes has the best line in football protecting him; Burrows has one of the best receiving corps. Allen has Diggs, and that's it. If Allen was out for the season on the first day this year, this team would not have won more than five or six games.

Confirmation bias isn't the only phenomenon in play; there's also the Backfire Effect, which is when people respond to strong arguments against their position (e.g., the film showing Hendrickson rolling up Allen's ankle) by doubling down on their original position. They're MORE convinced than before (e.g., that Hendrickson is innocent).

Allen constantly gets dinged for his turnovers. It's an inevitable part of the narrative now, even though he has just a few more than the other top QBs. Left out of most account are his rushing yards and TDs. You put them into the equation, and no one is his equal. I really, really don't get why everyone--even posters on this board--think Mahomes is the better QB. Allen makes all the Mahomes throws and rushes 60 yards a game. Should be the end of the discussion. My theory is that because Mahomes started his career in spectacular fashion, he is the default MVP. Quibbles like his throwing a pick to end KC's season last year, and a pick to end the game against the Bills this year, are ignored. Inconvenient facts.

Is that what happened, or are you kidding?

Ed Oliver: 6'1" 287 Aaron Donald: 6'1 285 I'll take tiny.

Well, give the Dolphins credit. The sack-fumble was a nice play by the DE, the coverage on the Beasley interception was spot on, and that deep interception by Xavien Howard was impressive. They also shut down the run well and adjusted well after the first quarter, basically taking Diggs out of the game and making Allen rely on drop-prone Davis, a rookie, and two semi-retired has-beens, a smart plan. The Bills won because they're just better, sort of like the heavier guy ultimately winning in a fight. But it wasn't just the Bills being dumb; the Dolphins came to play.

I said two passes, not one. I think you're underestimating the power of optics and narrative. If Davis catches the bomb in the Jets game, the Bills probably win, and the narrative changes 180 degrees, from "What is wrong with Allen?" to "Still MORE godlike throws from Allen!" And yesterday's performance goes from "Nice job from Allen" to "Did you see Allen throw THREE of the longest TDs this season--in ONE game?"

Allen would be back in the MVP discussion if Davis had done his job and caught the ball in his chest. Four TDs, including three bombs? No one else does that. Davis also dropped the bomb in his chest at the end of the Jets game. Catch those two balls alone, and Allen might be the MVP.

Haven't seen KC's schedule yet, but I bet they play Houston 17 times, all at home.

The first two sentences could apply to most of the games the Bills played after the loss to the Jets.

That might explain why he's never open, but did he need a healthy ankle to catch the eight balls he dropped this year?

If he had been even pretty good, like, say, Emmanuel Sanders early last year, the Bills offense would really be something. Add a decent slot receiver (like Crowder) and they might have been a juggernaut. I don't understand why they're not benching Davis for Shakir