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Any posters there with an intelligent or balanced view?

Just looking at Allen highlights. So many of them are strikes to Gabe Davis, and not just the iconic ones. When I think of Gabe, I've tended to think of his drops, especially that incredible 60-yard absolute dime from Allen at the end of the Jets game right after Allen had hurt his shoulder. Would have been one of the best, most clutch throws in Allen's career, which is saying something. For me, that drop eclipsed the many terrific plays Davis made in his time, and that's not fair or right. He was a big part of Allen's early success.

A year learning the position and getting up to NFL strength standards will really help, too. Ok, I'm intrigued. As we saw Sunday, Van Demark ain't chopped liver, either. Beane has been backfilling the roster nicely.

Why do you say that?

He wouldn't have made it through the arm tackles. Someone wrote that tackling Allen was like throwing yourself in front of a race horse. I've tried to make the same point here many times in the past but much less successfully. Cheers.

I'm not saying he isn't really good. That one drive was excellent, for example. I'm saying he's overrated, which is a pretty modest claim given the God-like status he has. So, no, it's not a ridiculous take. Mahomes is an elite quarterback, but he's not carrying that team; the defense is.

I'm waiting for the "Mahomes is overrated" thread. Put any of the top 16 quarterbacks on that KC team and get the same results. They're winning with Mahomes, not because of him.

Aside from The One: Bernard. The sack and the interception, the second time he's iced a game. The man studies film. Clutch player in the mold of Milano, Talley, and Bennett. Rapp. I thought he was a weak link in the D, but he's been great back there. Makes the key stops and brings the lumber. Rousseau. How many pressures did he have? What a beast coming at you every play. A raging giant. Babich. Great mix of zone and man, blitz and falling back. Disciplined play from his guys. Smart football. Shut down Kelsey, Mahomes' security blanket. O-line. Run blocking wasn't great, but Allen had all the time he needed. No sacks, no penalties. Oliver. You can lose him in the scrum, but he had some terrific plays against the best interior line in the league. Cooper. He might have caught that long ball one handed because of his injury. Playing hurt to help the team and coming through. Respect. Shakir. He doesn't get the attention he deserves. Best or near the best in RAC and catch percentage. What else can you ask from the guy? McDermott. The light has gone on. Aggressive as he's been in spots, at heart he's always been a play not to lose guy. No longer.

Allen is going against a much harder defense with fewer weapons than Mahomes.

Well, KC is a good team. They're not going to go third and out probably. Clutch drives by both offenses back to back. But KC's TD drive sure seemed a lot easier than Buffalo's.

I owe the refs an apology. I was positive they would throw the game to the Chiefs. Time to look deep into my dark heart...😔

Not sure what they can do differently that would work. Short passes aren't doing it, and neither is running. Pitches? Trick plays?

Who expected a defensive battle?

Agree. If you give up the run, it catches up with you.

Sarcasm?

I was about to say the same. Can't run, can't pass short, not easy to thrown deep, good pressure. They're the real deal.

Knox is no substitute for Kincaid.

I'm telling you: Fake those "Offside" plays and it'll go for a touchdown.

Gave up running the ball. Quite a concession.

That might have been Samuels running the wrong route. Seems more likely given his performance so far this season.

Well, at least we have all three of our time outs left. Oh, wait...

Could be that for the first time in his career, he has the same level of talent around him as most of the rest of the league.

I have to say, the officiating is pretty fair so far.

Who?

That's the catch Hollins didn't make a few games ago.