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Josh Allen? Let's talk about turnovers!

Are the Bills that undisciplined, or have the refs gotten a memo?

Heavy use of Mack Hollins. Who is he keeping on the bench?

Allen is playing Seattle and his own O-line.

Hurts throws to Brown, who has no defender within fifteen yards. "Hurts is just on point and throwing with pace and accuracy. Really impressive." What a job. Just say whatever comes into your head.

Dream: The Killer K's (Cooper, Coleman, Kincaid, and ShaKir) are open everywhere and get big-time YAC. Cook has a 100-yard game, the defense does enough to force Hawks into passing exclusively, and the pass rush gets home. Nightmare (besides injuries): Penalties on the O-line stalls several drives, Allen's first interception another; meanwhile, Walker blows through the weak middle of the D again and again for huge gains, allowing Geno all the time he needs in the pocket. Bills playing from behind all day, comes down to a 46-yard field goal try by Bass. (Enough said.) I'm going with the dream.

How about Bernard AND Milano? Two of the best linebackers in the league replaced by second-stringer and a guy on vacation with his family, and the game was still thisclose. And they say Allen is overrated?

No, I agree with Hondo, except I'd go further and argue the stars really aligned in KC, with a top-quality HC, DC, QB matched with two future HOF players already on the roster and an excellent GM drafting well (or the most part). I don't think any of these individuals, or even any pair or trio, would do nearly as well as they have in combination. I mean, Mahomes is struggling with a lousy WR corps. Give him a weak offensive coordinator, too, and you think he would be considered the best quarterback in the game? I doubt it.

I'm sure Beane has learned from the Von Miller fiasco, which looked plausible, even shrewd at the time but may go down as one of the worst signings in Bills history. No, I would welcome a trade of a fourth-rounder or lower for a safety, linebacker, pass rusher, or kicker, but the Bills have only one house to mortgage. They should invest not in current stars but in young players who might develop into stars, starting with their own players.

Don't muddy the waters with facts, man. Mahomes' interceptions are brilliant. There's no other QB in the league who throws them as well as he does. He's just on a different level.

Slower than Hamlin? No. Smarter, savvier, better in coverage? Yes.

You should. Either Hopkins catches it or the refs call pass interference. I don't know why Mahomes doesn't just chuck it down the field on every play. The refs already have their hands in their pockets getting the flag ready.

Cooper for sure. But I wonder what happens to both receivers next year. I think Coleman may develop into an excellent receiver, but even paired with Shakir and a gadget player like Samuels, he needs someone like Cooper to make it all fall into place. It's possible a rookie might fit the bill, but I would think the Bills would want Cooper to stay another year or two until a younger player develops. As for Hopkins, that looks like a rental.

Could it be him playing 75 yards off the line of scrimmage on every passing play?

Funny, I don't remember him as playing badly. In fact, he made some plays as I recall. He wasn't spectacular, but neither was (or is) Epenesa. I was surprised when he was cut. But since he's done nothing since, I must have missed his ineptitude somehow.

You have to watch out for confirmation bias, but even so, it seems pass interference is called on every incomplete pass by Mahomes pass at a critical moment, and the most blatant holds ever caught on film not being called, allowing Mahomes all the time he needs to do whatever. The blatant favoritism combined with the glazing by the announcers is nauseating. I suspect it's turning off a lot of viewers across the country.

Would you mind linking to it? I can't find it.

No, thanks. The Von Miller debacle was enough of that kind of experiment. Keep the picks. If Beane trades for anyone, let it be an experienced safety. That's the missing piece in this defense. They really could use two high-caliber safeties, but one might be enough.

We should have an open thread of all--ALL--negative remarks about Mahomes made by national commentators in all--ALL--media. It wouldn't get past a single page, no matter how he performs.

Brady always seems to make it all about himself.

But he's not. In fact, he's not even top five. It's like everyone is afraid to say anything negative about His Holiness.

Great play by the DB. Coleman probably would have secured it without his arm raking down on the ball.

Shakir + Cooper = Beasley + Brown.

I'm glad to be embarrassed!

Why is Cooper playing? I might as well be out there for all the likelihood he'll be thrown to.