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I'm not worried they'll lose. But I worry about a coach who inactivates two starters before a key game and replaces them with practice-squad players and an unproductive draft pick (Epenesa).

I was exaggerating out of frustration, but if McDermott keeps playing Cox, Epenesa and Zimmer, and Milano is still out, yes, I do think the defense will struggle against the Jets. They might struggle against even some of the better college football teams. Starting the practice squad defensive line was just a dumb move--and not in hindsight either. Add in Josh Norman and A.J. Klein as starters, too, and it gets depressing fast. Are you saying it was impressive that the Bills held KC to under 30 points?

Think of those three replaced by Klein, Zimmer, Epenesa and Cox. That's supposed to be a wakeup call to Murphy and Phillips. It's a wakeup call, all right, but to the fans and I hope Beane, who may be beginning to figure out that McDermott just may not know what he's doing after all. What a strategy. "I got it! Let's play the JV against the best team in the NFL on national TV! That'll light a fire under our D-line starters. And I'll inactivate those starters for good measure! My JV players are so good, no WAY will we need our best run stoppers in the game."

I don't need a blowout as a fan, and I don't think the Bills do, either. On offense, I would prefer a clinical, dispassionate win, where they pretty much do what they want to. I'm thinking a heavy dose of Singletary, an occasional deep shot by Allen, plenty of throws to the tight ends... Essentially what the Chiefs did to us. Treat it like a practice or preseason game to work out problems and try out players and schemes. On defense, though, good lord. The coaches and players might have to play their best game of the season to keep the score under 30. This defense is Dallas level.

That's what I've been saying. Two long bombs right on the money, one deflected by the DB in a great play, the other right through Diggs' arms. In neither case did Aikman have much to say beyond praising Allen's arm strength. What about his accuracy?!

Am I the only one that saw the perfect bomb to Brown that was stopped only by a superb play by the cornerback? And then another perfect end zone strike to Diggs that Diggs dropped? He did his job not just competently but spectacularly on those two throws, yet no one has mentioned them here that I've seen--and you know the media won't mention it. He's still the same guy. It's the defense I would worry about. They were embarrassing out there.

Four throws to the endzone, three of them perfect, and the announcers are like ho hum.

A surprise blowout: Bills 37, Chiefs 17.

I don't know, I think the Bills are pretty made at themselves, even a bit ashamed that they let down each other and the coaches. I think they'll come out firing.

Maybe an onside kick, with the defense playing so badly.

Well, let's see what they're made of.

This sounds right to me. Edwards has played ok, Milano is lights out. He may be the best coverage LB in the league right now. The hard decision coming up might be letting Edwards go, not Milano or Williams.

I'd say collar bone. Separated shoulder hurts a lot more and he'd show the pain. Less than a collar bone he wouldn't go off.

I get it that Mahomes is terrific, but so are Rodgers and Wilson--and, so far this season, Allen. I don't quite get the hyperventilating. Fine, he's the best now, but the best of all time? Reinventing the quarterback position? Worth five first-round draft picks? I'm not trying to be obtuse--tell me if I'm missing something. Not what makes him very good but what makes him better than Montana, Young, Brady, Marino, Wilson, Favre, et al. I just went through four or five of his "best throws" compilations, and they're really no better than the highlights of everyone else on that list. Yes, the occasional quirky throw is cool and unusual. Is that it? I suspect what's at work is that impulse toward hyperbole we all have to some degree. Mahomes can't just be excellent, he has to be transcendent, the GOAT, like no one else who has ever lived in the history of ***** sapiens. Fans and the media can't credibly worship Brady anymore--although ESPN and SI are doing their part--so maybe they're just looking for a new deity. In Mahomes I see a terrific quarterback, someone who belongs in the same conversation as some of the above stars, but one not clearly better as any of them, especially with other variables factored in, like his O-line, receivers and coaches. And, FWIW, I think Allen will be better! Flame away.

I don't think is necessarily true, if by "strides" you mean the giant leaps Allen has made, which may be unprecedented at the QB position if they continue or even hold up. I say that because Allen has a package of football intelligence, coachability, drive to improve, and competitiveness that few QBs have. Add to that his physical traits and you have a real anomaly. Jackson might match Allen's physical traits (he's a better runner but not as big), and you could argue he also has football intelligence and coachability, maybe, but he seems to get all mopey and regress when things go badly, and I don't see much improvement this year, which suggests he might not be as driven as Allen so clearly is. As others have pointed out, if you take away his tight ends, he's lost. I get it that we don't have to tear down Jackson to feel good about Allen, but I don't think TheElectricCompany's claim necessarily follows.

I'm not sure the real experts underestimated Allen that egregiously. Do we know of any teams that had him lower than the second round? They knew about his upside but also knew taking him high was a gamble, which it was at the time. The "experts" in the media are another matter. They've learned they don't need to watch tape, meet the player or consider intangibles like motivation, competitiveness and football intelligence. Their job is to f*llate the darling of the day (Mayfield, in that draft) and parrot other "experts" on the other picks, which evidently is what fans want to read. And they're the ones, most of them, who are still refusing to acknowledge they were wrong.

Yes, me too. Same size, mobility and big arm. Plus, if his team was down late in the fourth quarter, you knew almost with certainty that Elway would bring them back. Allen is displaying that same trait. Not sure Elway was as accurate as Allen has been these past three games, though. That's Allen's upside: A more accurate Elway. Wow.

Good stuff. I wish Turner didn't have the voice of a 13-year old. Allen is an anomaly, and it's interesting to consider why. Plenty of other big, physically talented QBs have come into the league, and plenty of others have been as intelligent, coachable, eager to learn, selfless and competitive as Allen. But we've never seen these traits combined in one player. It's unprecedented. That package gives him the potential to be the best of all time.

This is the key, I think. Other quarterbacks have had equally impressive physical gifts--think of JaMarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf, for instance--but rarely do you see one with these kind of gifts AND a burning desire to improve, together with humility and intelligence. Quite a package!

Did anyone else notice the uncharacteristic pass Allen through t Diggs halfway through the fourth quarter, the one where Diggs took a big hit? Aside from a few incomplete fades into the end zone last year, I can't recall Allen actually lofting a pass instead of rifling it as hard as he can. All last year fans were begging him to put some air under the ball as you see all the great quarterbacks do. Is he finally catching on? That was a beautiful pass, very Mahomes-like. May it continue!

You can see in this Jets thread the narrative that's just now forming and will be everywhere soon: Allen is good only because he's surrounded by talent, with no acknowledgment that last two years he had mediocre talent around him (on offense). He can't win.

He'll suck all season and all season the writers will make excuses for him while glorifying what little success he has. The nausea continues.

I agree Darnold isn't going anywhere. He's a very good quarterback. Mayfield and Rosen are the busts. Allen and Darnold will be the success stories.

I agree that it's hard to hear the same people who piously condemn these protests as as unpatriotic turn around and cheer a president who sneers at the military as losers and suckers. There's a saying, "No one belongs to a cult." Trump supporters, at least those who display this degree of cognitive dissonance, don't realize they belong to a cult and are behaving like cult members. All criticism of Our Dear Leader is invalid. He is noble, strong and brave. He fights for us. He loves us. He is the Messiah. It's like fricking North Korea or China under Mao. And it's happening here! .

Reminds me more of Mean Joe Greene, for the old timers out there. Same size, ferocity, power and relentlessness.