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jauron is gone. If he was staying, Ralph would have announced it today. You don't keep a coach who is staying twisting in the wind. Bobby April should be our next head coach. The guy is creative and smart, and actually shows emotion. And he knows the talent or lack of talent on this roster. Mark it down here fella's.
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There is no way he has anything to do with the draft or free agency. He might give that person(s) a dollar figure but he has no clue who Donte Whitner, Derrick Dockery or Langston Walker were before they became Bills.
Whitner and Dockery are marginal players who should be cut. (Thats right Whitner should go. He can't cover anyone, and is too small to play saftety in the NFL.) Walker has been the best of the three. He is not great but serviceable as our right OT. What about drafting McCargo and trading up to take Poz? Oh my god, the list can go on and on. Marv did nothing better than Donahoe did. I loved Marv as coach, but all I can think of is him looking dead in the pressbox against the Cowboys.
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Yes, but the blueprint makes sense for the Bills. Get a great not good D along with a running game, which we have to set up the pass. I think we are yound and improving on offense but the D needs help.
We can't score because we have no passing game to speak of, and refuse to try and run the ball in any situation that is 3rd and less than 3 yards to go. We run and pass out of the same formations every single game. We have two excellent running backs and no excellent receivers or tight ends. I don't think we even have any very good receivers. Lee Evans is so overrated. He has not taken over a game since the Texans game lst quarter in 2006.
But you are correct that the D needs help as well at DE, DT, LB and S.
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A better offence that can score more then 20 points a game would keep the defence off the field for more then they have been this season, and maybe they could sustain longer drives then. The defence doesn't get enough credit for how they have played this year. They were not bad, and only had at the most 4 games maybe were they were bad. having an offence that is a threat to score will help the defence alot more because the players don't have to be afraid of giving up a score that will cost them the game, and they can attack more and be more aggressive. When the offence is barely a threat to most defences, the Bills D can't play as aggressive because its not likely that if they do give up a TD or FG that the offence will get it back for them. They have to play near perfect in order to make up for the offences ineptness.
Improve the offence and the Bills are a playoff team
has everyone forgot the problem at Quarterback. Nooone and I repeat noone on this board can feel real comfortable with Trent Edwards going into 2009 as our starter. I am not convivnced in the slightest that he has what it takes to lead this team to many victories.
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You always take the big man over the safety...besides, too much invested in your current crop of safety's....
Our safety's SUCK!!! We need a fast TE, C , OLB, DT, DE, and at least one if not two saftety's. Simpson and Whitner BLOW. Scott is good on short yardage, but couldn't cover a corpse in a phone booth. We obviously have a lot of holes because we have drafted poorly and done poorly in free agency for far too long.
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Dockery has been nothing but average his entire time in Buffalo and today he was less then average. How Preston puts himself in that position before the half I have no idea. I know it's easy to take shots at Jauron but Preston has to understand the situation and the Center is suppose to be the leader of the line and he should be running back to the line of scrimmage to prepare for the field goal attempt. Even in his sound bites after the game he took no responsiblilty for his actions. He certainly has his faults but this season is not all on Jauron.
This team's identity is a that they have a very good special teams unit and that is it. We need to focus all of our offseason efforts to improve one side of the ball. I don't care if it's offense or defense but we need to be great on at least one side of the ball.
Dockery is so soft for an NFL player. He nevers nails anyone. We should cut him and eat his bonus immediately. The guy is average at best. I would keep Preston as a backup, and try and find the best dam center in North America and sign him in free agency or the draft. It is that important.
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TE, DE, WR at the VERY least.
Oh, and toss a new head coach in....
Add a safety who can hit and cover and a CENTER, and a third DT. And a head coach who knows when to pass and when to run. And some linebackers. My god ours suck.
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I think you'd be hard pressed to cite an instance of "stupid penalties" that have been game-changers. Mistakes, yes- but mistakes in the form of turnovers and the occasional dropped pass/missed assignment.
Furthermore, let's think for a second if Lindel hadn't botched the first two FG's against SF. Suddenly we're not going for it on 4th down inside the redzone, and we've got 9 extra points in a game decided by only 7.
Like it or not, for all the blame you want to pin on Jauron, players have to be accountable too. Lindel turned two very short FG attempts (20y/40y) into two HUGE mistakes. We can pontificate all day long about what MIGHT have happened if we handed it to Lynch more often, or if Edwards had the sack to throw one deep, or if we brought the blitz harder and more often. But to me, points are points. We missed out on 6 gimmies, and it informed a decision later in the game that would have given us 3 more.
We should have beaten SF. You COULD blame Jauron, but in doing so you're ignoring the game changing impact of a PLAYER's mistakes.
Blaming Lindell for either of those losses is ridiculous. We should have blown the Browns out at home. Our QB imploded early and than did not have the moxie or fortitude to get his head together and make plays after the dreadful first quarter. Against SF, we did not covert in the red zone when we had numerous opportunities. The play calling was suspect, and of course we did not execute like we should have.
Also, you have to look at 0-5 in the division. Probably to be 0-6 come Sunday at 4pm. That says we just are not good enough. Sure our coaching has been suspect at times. But I look at our lack of talent at certain positions as much more glaring. Overall, our QB play combining TE and JP has been mediocre at best. We have no threat to speak of at Tight end. The interior of our O line is very inconsistent. Even worse is our front seven. That is our biggest liability. Stroud is good, but definitely not dominant. Mitchell can be great at times, at other times he looks slow. But from there it is all downhill. Even when Schobel is healthy, he is inconsistent. The rest of our front seven basically is below avg. to sucky. They just are not athletic, simple as that. And our safeties CAN NOT COVER!!! Our biggest advantage is our return game, and coverage units. We almost always win the field position battle thanks to Leodis, Roscoe and Fred.
For next season pray that TE keeps getting better, and finds the confidence bordering on cockiness. Get a tight end that can run, and please please get some pass rushers and linebackers who can make plays. It is not impossible to turn things around, but there are some glaring weaknesses that need shoring up. With the lack of talent on defense, 7-8 is right about where this team belongs.
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I will admit upfront I saw barely 5 minutes of this game....
-Why are the Bills notorious for playing well and winning MEANINGLESS GAMES!?!?
-This further solidifies my opinion that Ralph Wilson was wrong and the Bills did not fall to grace because of a lack of talent (though a lack exists), but rather because of poor coaching decisions. In terms of talent, the Bills are no better or worse than the Broncos and even if the Broncos miss the playoffs, they will have a winning record. At least 3-4 games that the Bills lost can be attributed to poor coaching decisions.
-Someone mentioned that this teams downward spiral came following Reed's injury and today's game was proof of his value. He is Edwards favorite receiver. Too bad he is not a threat beyond 12-15 yards. He is a great slot receiver, the Bills would do themselves a whole lot of good if they find a reliable TE or 2nd WR this offseason and let Reed do his thing with even less attention. He could be a poor man's Hines Ward. By the way, Parrish will never be a poor man's Wes Welker (unless we get better blocking, Randy Moss and he becomes smart).
-I would argue that today's game showed even more that the main goal this offseason should be to add some athleticism and power to our defense. Especially at the position of OLB and DE. Our defensive is severely undersized and not athletic enough to become a "game changing defense". I say draft the best available defensive athlete that is NOT a defensive back. Someone that can pop the QB and not get fooled on misdirection bull sh-- plays. I didn't see the Eddie Royal reverse but the Ravens/Steelers would never have let that happen.
-Whitner is good, but not at #9.
-Losman and McCargo might go down as some of the worst draft picks since Ryan Leaf/Mike Williams. Both might be out of the NFL within a season.
-Leodis McKelvin might go down as one of the better players drafted in 2008.
- Jauron still needs to go. The bittersweet part of this victory had nothing to do with our draft position, it had to do with giving Wilson some cover to make this terrible deal with Jauron public. If anything, this game was just Wilson's flak jacket. Hopefully the fans have a high powered bazooka to counter.
We definitely need a tight end that can be a receiving threat. We must have the LEAST PRODUCTIVE tight end's in the league. We need at least two more studs in our front seven to rush the passer and just make plays. Have you ever seen less athletic linebackers than Poz and Ellison? And we still get nothing from our front four.
Whitner is NOT GOOD..His instincts are very poor, and he is certainly not a game changer. He plays like a sixth or seventh round pick. Can he cover anyone big or small? The Bills would do well to find some new safeties because none on their roster can cover anyone. Scott is good in run support and that is where it ends. The team played with tremendous heart today. When TE is on, we will always have a chance. But we are still lacking at several key positions for us to be a contender. But a win on the road against a good team is tremendous. When was the last one we had? Does anyone even remember?
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On the late 4th down play, he actually did get outside and then failed to block a soul. As Freddie is getting tackled, Dockery is standing on the sidelines watching. He's terrible.
Bill, I'm genuinely curious. As much as you like Peters, I call bull sh-- on his behavior in the off-season and today as well. He came in late and took a while to get up to speed. He's had some great plays and good games--but also quite a few boneheaded plays. Thoughts? (I am not in favor of running him out of town...just saying I'm not having an easy time liking this kid.)
This may be unpopular, but I have a big feeling that Peters is going to pull the same stunt this offseason as last. No way is he worth huge left tackle money. If the Bills are smart, and they can find a willing partner, they should trade Peters. Chambers and the rookie Bell will not be much of a dropoff. Peters is overrated. I would trade him for a high 2nd and a high 3rd round pick. Of course I would take a 1st, but noone is probably going to give that up for him.. All you have to do is watch the film and see that he is a lazy player who is a good athlete, not great, who gets beat more than once in awhile. He takes a lot of penalties and that is from not concentrating enough. He could care less about being a Bill, so lets get what we can for him and spend our money elsewhere. For this team to move forward, guys like Peters need to be shown the door.
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No. Its the quarterbacks.
The pass protection has been good this year, and the receiving group is passable. There is no excuse for them to drop back there and stand around as if they don't even know the playcall, because they "can't find anybody." Time and time again they sit in the pocket until they either take a sack, or check to Lynch/Jackson. I've had it with the ineptitude at the QB position.
Chris Brown made a post in his blog about one of these losses (if memory serves, it was an Edwards game, possibly the MNF) that recievers were open all game long, and the ball simply never found them. We've seen people say that as the season went on, Edwards stopped anticipating that recievers would get open, and trust the system and his WRs...and instead would wait until guys were wide open to let it fly. And even of the recievers who were wide open...he failed to see far too many of them.
The running game is not that bad...15th in ypg (113.9), and tied for 13th in ypc (4.2). You can't pin this on the linemen. Its specifically the quarterback position that has held the offense back, imo.
Losman has always recieved a lot of criticism for holding the ball too long, with good reason. But he doesn't hold onto the ball just because he likes doing it. He holds onto the ball because he just does not know where to go with it, because he can't find secondary recievers and he can't read defenses. Thats why he hardly ever takes a three step drop, steps up and wings it...instead, we get pat-pat-sack, or pat-pat-checkdown. He hesitates because he doesn't know what to do.
For too many games, we saw Edwards put that same defficiency on display. The ball wouldn't come out on time with the play, and when it did finally come out, it was to his security blanket.
People will say "I don't know if I'm ready to give up on him"...but are you really ready to just hand this guy the starting job next year? This is the most critical position in sports. We need to bring in somebody who has a clue.
I totally agree with you Big Bad Boone. Our quarterbacking has been just awful with both JP and TE. Neither of them has any confidence to just wing it down the field. They are always tentative. It is amazing that both of these guys struggle so much. Our talent evaluators have missed big time on both of these guys. I can not remember what its like to have a QB under center who had confidence in himself and his teammates to continuously make plays. JP's numbers are an embarrasment. It is amazing that he is still on our roster. The guy SUCKS!!! And TE hasn't played much better. His performance AFTER throwing the 3 picks against Cleveland was the most gutless performance I have ever seen on a football field. He was AFRAID to throw the ball. What is wrong with these guys?
We definitely need some competition for TE next season. A guy with some moxie and fire. Shoot I would take Brian Griese from Tampa to come in and compete. At least he can play the position.
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One word - birthright.
My kids are 10 yrs old - and have watched the games w/ me since before they even really knew what was going on. Every year like clockwork at some point the Bills are eliminated from the playoffs and I say - "How sad the Bills - your team - have sucked basically your whole life - for as long as you've known them" - but they accept it, and take the punches, and keep coming back year after year - like any good Bills fan. Birthright.
My 9 year old son watches every Bills game with me. We talk about how he was 5 months old when we last went to the Playoffs. And now he is nine, and we still haven't gone back. He agonizes with me thru each game, but he understands that this is his team like it is his daddy's team. He will never quit on the team like the team quits on us year after year.
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So what if Dick Jauron signed a three year extension. Who says it is even guaranteed? If we play poorly in our last three games, Dick is gone period. This board has gotten so caught up in Ralph is cheap. He wants to win. Why the hell does anyone own an NFL team for this long if he doesn't want to win? He sees what is happening on the field. He may be old but he is not an idiot. I am sure that Brandon will have a say in what happens. Another embarrasing performance today, and the rest of the season, and big changes will happen. Has anyone heard DJ say anything about his future with the team? He knows his neck is on the chopping block.
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Sullivan and the paper are out of control when it comes to negativity and soon they'll probably be out of business.
What is there positive to say about the state of this franchise seriously? Come on we suck bigtime. We have not been to the playoffs in nine years. That is horrific. Sullivan is the man. He calls it like he sees it. When the team plays well he is very positive. But as a columnist he is supposed to give his opinion. And I believe his opinion is similar to just about everyone's opinion on this Board about our team.
We were 5-1. We are now 6-7. Our only win since the start against a team with ONE win. We have not come close to winning any of the seven losses except the Cleveland game. Our coaching and quarterbacking is among the worst in the league for the umpteenth year. The team plays with absolutely no emotion, and our defense while somewhat better than our putrid offense has almost no playmakers and can not stop a good offense. So what again is there to be positive about at this point in another lost season? And don't get me wrong friend, I love the Bills bigtime. But what Sullivan says is spot on.
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Paul Posluzny. I keyed on this guy while watching the defense against miami, is he even on the field? Oh yeah he's getting drive blocked 10 yards down the field, standing in no man's land in the zone scheme's, or getting pushed aside like my niece when he's trying to blitz. If this is the Middle Linebacker we our going to build our team around our defense is in big trouble for a long time. But his hair is really dreamy and he has a strong jaw line so he's got that going for him.
Gimme a break, we need some bad asses on this defense. I don't think we have any.I agree with you. Poz has definitely not been a gamechanger for us whatsoever. You don't look at his play and say this guy is special. It's as simple as that. He is pretty solid near the line on inside running plays, but in space his pass coverage skills are surely lacking. And who can forget Matt Cassell's touchdown run up the middle early in the Pats game. Poz was maybe 10 yards out of the play. It is too early to say that the guy sucks, but he certainly hasn't shined and taken over this defense. We have two guys on defense who have shown playmaking ability most of the season. And that is Marcus Stroud and Brian Scott. Other than those two, who has stood out and made much of a difference? The rest of our defense has been marginal at best.
Forget points allowed. Our defense rarely takes over a game. Miami only scored one touchdown, but moved the ball when they needed to the entire game. We still need upgrades on defense if we want to compete for anything other than last place in our division.
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Don't kid yourself; Marv was one of the biggest holes in the boat.
I thought Marv died in the pressbox during the Monday nite game against the Cowboys. At least he looked dead to me.
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Whitner wasn't a great value pick at #8 in 2006, but he's not a bad starting safety. He's certainly a better choice than spending ANOTHER high draft pick on a safety.
Our best safety is Brian Scott who we picked up off of the street. He makes many more plays than Whitner in run support. As far as in coverage, none of our safeties make any plays. Drafting Whitner and McCargo in the first round was just terrible. That is why we are mediocre to poor every year because we draft players who are mediocre to poor every year. Whitner plays like a late round pick. He has not improved since his rookie year, and he is the smallest safety in the league. The guy looks tiny.
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sorry, make excuses for him all you want but he is simply not an NFL qb. He actually is one of the worst qbs I have ever seen.
JP will not be even a backup on another team if he continues to play like he has for us in the past two weeks. I think he reads defenses as poorly as any quarterback I have ever seen. He has not gotten better in his recognitions and instincts in throwing the football since day one. He has a great arm, and is mobile, but lacks ANY SKILL in knowing where to throw the football on each play. Watch how many deep passes he overthrows by a lot. It is ridiculous that a professional quarterback can misfire so badly and look that confused
As a team our offense had 163 yards total against a Miami defense that gave up 48 points to the Patriots. That is pathetic and unacceptable. We have scored 6 points in two games. Our offense is worse than last year which I thought was impossible. This team looks nothing like the team of the first month of the season. It is shocking. This team is in the same place as at the end of 2003 and 2005. Absolutely pathetic. I sit and watch and just cringe at how bad we look. Offensively, as BAD as any team in the league. We have to change head coaches. Jauron has lost this team. They are going thru the motions. Is anyone even coaching out there right now? I would like to see Jauron canned immediately, to start to get rid of the stench. (Less accountability on this team, than just about any in the NFL. Lynch played just horribly as well, and looked like he really didn't care. Need much more out of a player of his caliber. Players have stopped playing hard for Dick. SAD, SAD,SAD,SAD
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I don't understand how a lot of people can post things like "fire jauron", "draft a QB". This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. Did you guys know Buffalo is the third youngest team in the league? Do you remember when Coughlin was on the brink of being fired, and Eli was about to be benched? Then what happened? Ohh yeah, they shut everybody up by winning the superbowl. Give it some time. Trent is so young, and shows so much promise. Eli, Peyton, Cutler, and most QB's took 2 or 3 years to become solid QB's. We know Trent is smart, accurate, a hard worker, and a good face for the Bills. Everyone who calls for replacing him is just ignorant to how football works.
Which brings me to my next point. FIRE JAURON? I don't think so. The man has the respect of his team, and he is full of football knowledge. Once again, our team is so young! We have players who will be great (Marshawn, Trent, Evans, Poz, etc.) JUST LET THEM MATURE. Jauron is just like Marv Levy with his approach. He is quiet, has a lot of football knowledge, and doesn't take crap (notice we don't have an Ocho Cinco or Moss). Listen to the press conferences on Bills.com. You'll constantly hear players praise Coach Jauron. He can't go out there and get experience for them. He can't accelerate experience. We've been tearing everything down and starting all over again every 3 years since Jim Kelly left. DON'T YOU THINK IT'S TIME TO STICK WITH WHAT WE HAVE? We have potential, and that's very valuable if you're willing to let the young players that we have mature.
I wish we had Randy Moss. And you should too. Trent has not shown enough promise to warrant being handed the starting job next year. We need to bring a veteran in to compete with him. As for Jauron, who cares what knowledge he has. He can not coach our team to victory against any team that is half decent. He does not get the most out of our players. His schemes NEVER confuse the opponent. Wow, the players praise him. Who cares. They don't play to win, and that is because of good ole Dick. They don't play with confidence. Look at Atlanta my friend. A new coach with a good personel guy, and they have turned it around in one season. Like I wrote in an earlier post. If we lose Sunday, it will all come down and the season will end in a train wreck.
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How many BIG games have the Bills won in the "Jauron area"? How many BIG games have they even played well in? How many BIG upsets have they won in the "Jauron erea"? The answer to all these questions is the same as his chances of staying headcoach. NONE!
That says it all. We never come out strong in a big game. We always play small. The two reasons are that we have consistently poor quarterbacking whenever we play an above average team. And we are almost always outcoached. Does Jauron act like a leader of men in the most intense sport in the world? Of course not. Noone on this board can disagree with that fact. I believe there is a good chance we lose our last four games. It all hinges on this week's game. If we lose to the Fish our season is over. We will than get buried in our last three games. Lets see how this team comes out and executes. If they are flat, weak and mistake prone, this will be the start of the end of the DJ era. Freefall if we lose. Heads will start to role.
A wasted three years. But we can always have hope that the next coach will get it, and coach to win.
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All this from my response to....
All I was after was some perspective from the 'sky is falling' crowd.
Let's say we do end up 6-10 or 7-9. Are the Bills a better team than the one that went 5-11? Hell Yes!
Better at DT, MLB, OLB, SS, LCB, LT, LG, RG, RT, RB, WR1.....with still a hope at QB....and only worse at RCB(unless McKelvin shows himself a star).
Anyone who realistically looks at the team from 2005 & the team from 2008 & thinks we have less talent is not looking at things clearly IMO.
*Keep in mind that in no way am I saying that DJ has done a good job as a HC......I've simply been pointing out that a comment of "He's destroyed this team" is not correct.*
You are splitting hairs if you want to compare our team being better than the one in 2005. We had a horrible JP Losman and a marginal Kelly Holcomb as our quarterbacks. Spikes went down with a torn achilles in week 4 against the Falcons. From their things unraveled. The point is that this year we started out 5-1 against a very easy schedule. But the team absolutely failed to build off of beating a bunch of bad teams. The easy schedule masked the coaching staffs inability to install any sort of confidence in its players that in a tough game, against a tough team that we had the talent and moxie to prevail. We went into the tank against the Fish and Jets, when the games were close. The team played tentatively, and the coaches coached scared. We went to New England, and played with absolutely no confidence. These were our 3 divisional opponents, and their was no fire from this team in any of those games. I blame the coaches for not instilling any sense of importance in these games to the players. And than to lose to Cleveland and SF at home is inexcusable. Both of those teams are pretty much talentless. And we barely played at their level because their is no standard set by the coaching staff. Both in game planning, and motivating. If we had played any other two divisions in the league this year our record would very likely be 2-10 or 3-9. This team plays with no confidence, has no leadership on the field or the sidelines, and is one of the least physical in the NFL. I blame that on the coaching staff. The talent is not great, but not horrible. They have failed to mold this team into a winning machine.
Jauron has not destroyed this team. He has failed to make it into a team. Bobby April molds his special teamers into a "UNIT" every year. I would like to see what he could do with an entire team of players. The guy at least looks like it matters to him, and he communicates with HIS players on the sidelines.
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Rod Marinelli
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Jack Del Rio is going no where after the turn around he made there...one down year decimated by injurys and bad FO FA signings at WR that didnt work out isnt going to lose him his job. He will be there next year for sure.
No way Mariucci takes the Rams job after the debacle of a horrible team he inherited in Det. If he comes back he takes a team he has a chance to win with...I think he could be a top candidate for Buffalo...Also, Linehan isnt the coach there anymore...
I think Buffalo has to pursue Billick or Mariucci...I can see a lot of the others you mention landing where you did or just not being available due to not being fired or taking time off next year.
Marty ball would be a good fall back option...I heard some talk on these boards too about Gruden being on the hot seat, I have no idea if its true in the NFL world, but if the posters here are right and TB fires Gruden, of course he shoots to the top of my list with Billick and Mariucci.
Did you watch the game last night? The Jaguars absolutely quit on Del Rio. That team is playing worse than us. Del Rio's schtick (and that is all he has) has worn very thin. Unless the Jags win there last 4, he is gone!!! Billick or Mariucci would definitely be an upgrade over Jauron. But Billick's offenses with the Ravens were definitely offensive.
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grab an umbrella, because you're about to encounter a "the coach picks the roster" hail storm.
Nevermind the fact that said roster was basically whiped completely clean and rebuilt THREE YEARS AGO.
Not counting the kicker and the punter ELEVEN players are left over from the Donahoe era. Of those 11 are finger in the dyke players: Denney, Kelsay, Losman, Preston and the marginal (at best) Roscoe Parish. The other SIX contributing players are: Evans, Reed, McGee, Greer, Peters, and the now injured Schobel.
That leaves five non-kickers that have played and contributed greatly this year who were not brought in by Jauron.
Rome wasn't built in a day, folks.
Have some fuggin patience. We all knew that reset button was slammed down in 2006, now let it play out!
What on earth are you talking about? Things have played out and our record under Jauron is 20-24. Hardly close to being a playoff team. This team has no mental and physical toughness, and even less playmakers. We are solid at RB and CB. Our O line has the potential to be good if we can find a center and some depth at right guard. Our receivers are TERRIBLE. And we do not have a number one tight end. Worst of all is we have collectively about the worst group of QB's in the league. We need a leader who can make plays and TE is not it!!! Our front seven has NO studs. Stroud and Mitchell are OK, but do not dominate games. And our safeties do nothing. This team has won games because our special teams has usually dominated. But that will not get you to the playoffs. We need upgrades at WR, TE, C, QB, DE, DT, S, and LB. Enough said about how talented this team is.
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Buster I totally agree. I posted this last nite. If Jauron was staying it would have been announced yesterday. I will take Marty in a heartbeat. Toughness, toughness, toughness. A lot of guys who have been on this very soft team will no longer be here if Marty takes over. We can only hope and pray. I would take Bobby April too.