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What Peter's has accomplished is to go from being an undrafted TE to becoming one of the best LTs in the game. Football contracts are renegotiated all of the time and it's only because of Peter's exponential rise to probowl LT staus that his last renegotiated contract was quickly out of step with his talent. That's supposed to be a good thing if this were any other NFL team that took care of their best players. But on the Bills he gets the back hand of a tightwad owner who refuses to pay the going rate to his only player that has actually accomplished something of note. Trading Peters to save money is shameful and Bills fans who are backing the owner had better not complain when Fitzy is starting the majority of games after the Trent "china doll" Edwards has been broken to a million bits.
Peters is overrated. So he made the probowl, big effing deal. If anyone watched Peters play at all last season they saw a slow, fat disinterested player who let us down bigtime last year. Why on earth would the Bills want to pay a guy who does not bring it game in and game out, who has held out and has not given any type of commitment to the team 10 plus million/year? It is never going to happen. We have not won with the guy, maybe we will have far more continuity without him. Because it is the Bills FO, they are automatically in the wrong. Get over it. Peters is never going to play another down for the Bills. Why do you think any other team would pay a guy who held out all offseason $10 mill/year with at least 2 years left on his contract. You do that in Pittsburg or New England, you are GONE. No questions asked. The Steelers let Alan Faneca walk, and he has had a much more productive career than Peters. Look at NE with Deion Branch, and many other guys. I think the Bills are playing this perfectly.
The hate for the Bills front office is just god awful ridiculous.
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Interesting post Tipster.
Most of the moves you outline of course are the mundane day to day tasks that any organization has to perform, shuffling players and staff in and out.
I like the hiring of Ray Brown but he was needed to assist Kugler after McNally retired. That decision was likely Jauron's. I also like the Adrian White hire although that was probably due to the staff's familiarity with him, not any personal connection to Brandon.
Here are several issues that Brandon is dealing with or has dealt with.
He has recently acquired Terrell Owens. I give him high marks for this.
He recently brought back Buddy Nix, one of the most respected college scouts in the league. Big kudos for that move.
He extended Marcus Stroud which was probably necessary from a fairness standpoint. It also sent a message to others on the team about what sort of approach to team will be rewarded.
On the downside, he sat on his hands all last season instead of being proactive with Peters. Both sides were incommunicado with Brandon saying the team had made "a few" attempts to reach the disgruntled player. An earnest and eager attitude towards the player and his agent might have changed the messy situation in which he now sits.
He botched the Crowell situation IMO. As with the Peters situation there is probably blame on both sides. The final straw, the punitive IR move ensured that the situation would be a lose-lose for both sides. Brandon made the final move in this game and it wasn't a good one.
He botched the secretive "did he or didn't he sign an extension" situation with Dick Jauron. The needlessly secretive approach dragged on for 11 weeks of the season and was a distraction to the team.
He possibly could have extended Jabbari Greer last offseason for much less money than he ended up bolting for in free agency this year. Not a huge deal but it is a valid point.
Brandon's been on the job for 15 months and it's too early to judge his worthiness. I'm not seeing the second coming of Bill Polian right now. I'd say he's done an average job.
Hopefully Buddy Nix will strengthen the college scouting department and we will have a great draft. The Peters situation, to a lesser degree the Fred Jackson situation and now the Roscoe Parrish situation will go a long way towards evaluating Brandon's competence.
I agree with you San Jose. The Peters, Jackson and Parrish situations are very big as far as how Brandon acquits himself in bettering our talent level, stabilizing things on the team this offseason, and making us more competitive. I think we will have to trade Peters. His attitude, and absurd contract demands are not conducive to a positive team first attitude, nor do I think the Bills want to pay a stratospheric contract to a player who is not nearly as good as he and his agent want to believe he is. And I believe Brandon while not a long time football guru understands that. I believe a reasonable deal with Jackson will be reached in the near future, and that Parrish is an asset that we have, that we don't need. Some of you can say that there is no reason to give up the best punt returner in the game. I say we have at least 2 other guys (Mckelvin and Jackson) who are almost as good. If we can get at least a 3rd round pick and/or a solid player at a position of need for him, Brandon will make the trade. I am excited to see what Russ has up his sleeve. I think he is worlds better than Mr. Comatose Marv Levy.
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Of course it is, with TO and Evans it has to be. Although the O-line has to be addressed first. Can't blame him if Bell and Chambers are our starters this year.
That is a very stupid statement. What makes you think that Bell and Chambers are going to be bad? I guarantee you that either one of them plays better than Dockery did at LG. And the way Peters played last year, most anyone we bring in to play LT will be an upgrade as well. Just because Bell is not a stud 1st round pick does not mean he is going to SUCK. Why don't you wait and watch what Bell and/or Chambers do before annointing them as failures?
Don't try and make excuses for Edwards because of a mediocre O line. No QB in the NFL gets loads of time to throw and get comfortable game in and game out. Being a top QB is being able to make plays while under pressure. Don't forget that the guys on D are paid just like the offensive players are.
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OK, fine. So the Bills will trade Jason Peters to Philly. And then, the Eagles will pay him exactly what he has demanded to be paid by the Bills, and will anchor their offensive line as a Pro Bowl LT for the forseeable future. And the Bills? Well they will use the draft picks to draft more rookies. And if by some miracle, around the same year Peters' gets voted into his 5th or 6th consecutive Pro Bowl, the rookie the Bills draft at perhaps LT becomes as good as Peters, they won't pay him what his demands will be either. Yeah, it's great being a Bills fan, isn't it??
Bill Polian must be shaking his head in utter amazement as to what has become of his old franchise. This idiotic standoff with the talented Peters must remind Polian of the off-season that the Broncos signed young and upcoming Bruce Smith to an offer sheet. You know Polian lost his temper and most likely wanted to let the ingrate Smith shufflle up to Denver. But, his common sense and football smarts forced him to match the offer sheet, and he reaped the benefits of Bruce's Hall of Fame career for that decision.
For the love of god, it just makes me sick how much love there is on this board for Jason Peters. Why do all you supporters of him think he is so GREAT? What on earth has he done to make you feel so warm and fuzzy about him? Our offense has been horrible every year he has started on the O line. Is it all his fault? Of course not. Did he contribute to that? Yes he did. His play was AWFUL last year-game in and game out. Is he worth more than his current contract? Probably. Is he worth close to 10 million/year? NO WAY. He is not a LEADER on this team. His holdup cost the team bigtime last year and they know it.
Most of you have this view of the Bills FO as being totally incompetent. And our record over this decade has not been good. But signing Jason Peters to a new contract will not make or break this team, period. The guy is not tough, and does not dominate on every play. And he is not a team player. Why do we want to pay someone like that so much money? I am sure all things being equal the Bills would like to keep Peters at a reasonable cost. But given his erratic play, his difficult agent, his unreasonable salary demands, and his unwillingness to be part of the team, I think the Bills will trade him for the best deal they can get. Does that mean it is a bad move on their part? NO WAY!!! There are other guys on this team and in the draft who can play O line fairly well I am sure. And they will be with the team the entire offseason. Building continuity is everything on the O line. Peters is gone. Lets hope for the best deal and stop this talk about making new holes to fill. The way this offense has not performed, everyone save our two RB's should be available to move if the price is right. Would anyone be upset if we got rid of the entire O line from last year, our QB, TE's and all of last year's receivers other than Lee? I didn't think so.
So spare us all the rhetoric about how Peters is so good. There is absolutely nothing to support that giving him a ridiculous extension's positives outweigh the negatives.
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I take Cushing or Crabtree. Sure we have receivers, but Crabtree is a stud who was head and shoulders above anyone else in college at his position. He will be the next Larry Fitzgerald. If he is gone, which I think is a strong possibility, I take Cushing. The guy plays lights out on every single play. He is a football player. Put him with Poz and Mitchell and we have a Very SOLID linebacking corp. I am not crazy about rookie DE's because the Olineman they are going up against in the pros are just so much more physical than at the college level. Guys AWAY from the line of scrimmage have more room to roam, and will have much more opportunities to make an impact.
Don't draft guys from Texas. They are mentally soft, and have not fared well in the pros. Mack Brown just cuddles the hell out of his players.
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IMHO, if the front office hasn't made any progress with him before the draft, I think they will move him, because I'm not sure they feel they can risk another extended holdout.
Again, just my opinion.
I definitely agree. If we can't get an extension agreed to in the next two weeks, than we need to start shopping Peters because whoever we are going to trade him to will need time to sign him to an extension as well. Noone will want to trade for him in a matter of 5 minutes while we are on the clock because that team will also have no idea whether they will be able to sign him to a deal that will keep him from holding out.
The team can not keep him past the draft without getting an extension done now. It would be totally irresponsible of the front office to not put our team in the best position to fill Peters spot in the draft if we can not sign him longterm. We have to move on now one way or another.
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Chicago gave up way way too much for Cutler, (and I happen to think he is a very good QB). The Bears problem is that they have next to nothing at wide receiver. Last year they played Devin Hester, Brandon Lloyd and Mr. Dropsy Marty Booker as their top three as I recall. Not quite Brandon Marshall, Eddie Royal and Tony Scheffler. Also, the Bears have a mediocre O line-nothing special. I don't see Cutler lighting it up until they bring in some real solid receivers. That Chicago agreed to the Broncos asking price is very surprising bordering on sheer stupidity.
But it sure makes for some exciting talk. We need some big football news right now. Draft is still three weeks away and the Sabres are done. When can we trade Jason Peters? If we can get a first and possibly a third or a fourth for FAT BUTT and also trade down from 11, picking up another second in the process, we will be sitting pretty come draft day. Lets go front office, start thinking like us fans who know a thing or two about the NFL. Yeah Baby, the draft is coming!!!
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I don't think you can point to one guy who's been developed from their rookie season better than Peters. So many fans rag on him for the bad 08 season, but his play at a high level from late 06 to 07 proves what he can do when he's there in camp.
If the Bills trade him and throw up the white flag to Peters and Parker, it goes to show that the Bills are not interested in winning right now. Because what they get in return will be draft picks and that's not going to help in 09 like Peters would.
Dude, I am so over yours and everyone elses man love for Jason Peters on this board. He is a deterrent to us winning because he does not want to be a team guy and get his big fat behind into conditioning with the rest of his teammates. He is not that GOOD. He does not dominate. Say goodbye to Jason. The Bills will trade him before the draft. I have never heard such drivel about an O lineman in my life. It is the UNIT that will win or lose. Not one guy. My goodness, on most teams the fans could care less about ONE O lineman. Lets worry about getting better at other positions that need major improving. Anyone we put in at LT will be at least as good if not better than what Peters did not show us last year.
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Outstanding post!
You look around the NFL, and how many franchise left tackles are currently playing in the NFL, as young as Peters, with two consecutive Pro Bowls under their belts??? Of course this kid is worth the money or two number one picks. If the circle jerks trade him for less, then they are more pathetic then I give them credit for.
Your view of Peters and his play for us is so distorted like over half the people on this message board. The guy had just an awful year in 2008. He could not block anyone. He plays soft, and has a terrible first step back on pass protection (see Joey Porter and everyone else who went around him) I believe the Bills think he is a good but not spectacular player. He should be offered Jordan Gross money, and not a penny more. This team is not going to live or die with Jason Peters at left tackle. He is not that much of a gamechanger. If he will not accept the Bills best offer before the draft, we need to trade his big butt before we make our first pick.
And for anyone who has no clue to the value of players being traded in today's NFL, we will not get BOTH of Philly's first round picks. We should get their higher first round pick and possibly a third or fourth. But noone short of Brady or P. Manning, is getting traded for two first rounders in the same draft.
Peters is just not worth the trouble. Continuity on an O line is everything. A line is as good as the SUM of its parts. Not as good as just one player. Try and comprehend it.
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Most white cops have no clue how to deal with minorities. It is just a real shame. For the most part I believe racial relations especially amongst blacks and whites are much better than when I was growing up in the 70's and 80's. However, that seems to be more the case amongst somewhat educated white people. A lot of cops are just stupid meatheads who use their badge as an excuse to bully people especially black males. It is too bad that cops get paid so poorly, because if they were paid better, maybe their would be a higher quality cop who had an ounce of common sense. Until than, black athletes will be on the most wanted list of most police departments.
All you conservatives on the board can flame away if you like now.
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I think the Bills' NUMBER ONE goal is to find a pass rush. I know that it was over a year ago, but I keep going back to what the Giants did to Tom Brady and the Patriots high flying 18-0 machine in that Superbowl. So many people forget and I feel that I need to remind them. The Giants made the "unstoppable" Patriots look rather ordinary on the NFL's biggest stage and the number one reason was their pass rush nailing and pressuring Brady all game long. Yes they did score over 20 points, but if their defense did not rush Brady like that they would have gotten their fourth title going away. They kept it close for Manning and Co. to pull off the miracle.
Now look at what the Bills have for a pass rush... a broken down Aaron Schobel and a worthless pass rusher in Chris Kelsay. I'd consider it front office malpractice for the Bills to draft a tight end, and not a DE, in the first round. There's a set of priorities and tight end is a luxury pick behind getting getting the pass rusher, center, guard and an outside linebacker. They need to make the Patriots fear the Bills pass rush and they need to start opening holes for Marshawn before his body breaks down in about two years time.
I understand and agree with you about our pass rush needs fixing. However, I totally disagree with you on Tight End being a luxury pick for us. We do not have a TE who is a weapon on our roster. In today's NFL it is a necessity to have a big target that can get down the middle of the field. And we do not have that. Our passing game has SUCKED for god knows how long. A big reason is the lack of a threat at Tight End. Unless we trade for Gonzalez or Scheffler, I am all for drafting Pettigrew somewhere in the first round. (Hopefully with a trade down) The biggest reason we continue to not win consistently is our offense does not scare anybody. Adding TO helps. And than adding the big TE is the finishing piece to a real offense. How many rookie DE's really make that big of an impact right away? Not many. It takes them awhile to learn how to get by the monster OT's that play in the NFL.
And don't forget that Hangartner will be a big upgrade at Center.
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Don't ask for a link ... I heard it on WGR this am ... Jauron was talking that Ellison is the starting LB, unless they find a FA that knocks their socks off and that Chambers / Bell will compete at LG ... so apparently we're not bring in any more free agents ... so outside of a likely upgrade at center, a hole at LG and no upgrades on D ... we have only the TO move this offseason ... So, while the TO move is an upgrade at WR, I think it is largely a PR move to sucker us back in while they make no major improvements to the roster ...
why do I even care any more?!?
Don't be a simpleton. What is Jauron supposed to say, that Ellison sucks when he is still on the team? He is not going to show his hand to anyone, nor is he supposed to. I am sure we will still be looking to improve the team throughout the coming months leading up to the season. There is the draft and possible trade possibilities for Peters, and picking up Waters, Scheffler, etc.
So use your brain and don't take everything Jauron says so literally. It is called "coach speak" FYI.
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I hope that's not that case. There is no need to use of of our very important draft picks because we released a guy who was overpaid. Was he worth the money, no. But was he absolutely terrible, also no. I hope we sign Simmons or trade for Waters.
We did not release Derick Dockery because he was overpaid, we released him because he sucked. He was as soft an O lineman this side of Mike Williams that you are ever going to find. While Kirk Chambers is no stud, he at least plays tough. The Bills have had too many soft lineman such as Dockery, Fowler and Preston. Guys don't have to be world beaters, they just need to be tough and decently strong at the point of attack.. The Giants O line is not overly athletic, but they are all very TOUGH, and play physical. I believe Hangartner is that type of guy, as is Butler. Walker is not bad, and the rest remains to be seen. I would offer a 5th and Roscoe for Waters. And I would offer Denver a 4th for Scheffler the Tight End. If we can get those two guys without giving up any higher draft picks, the draft would look very sweet in getting at least two studs on defense at linebacker and end, and than using our third pick on a safety or DT. That also presumes that we extend Peters. If we trade him, than we have to use one of the picks from the Peters deal on a new OT.
I believe my scenario would cover all our immediate needs. LG, TE, OLB, DE, DT or S. (With Peters trade-new OT and S or DT with the extra pick we would probably receive) THOUGHTS?
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I am wondering just how strong the interest be, given that free agency has been in full swing for quite some time.
Personally, I hope that Green Bay grabs him. He gets shoved around on passing downs, and makes up for it by having no push on running plays.
I love it Bill. Duke Preston is the perfect symbol of why the Bills have been so mediocre to poor this whole decade. Does he god awful suck? No, not really. But is he good at all? No. Has he shown any upside to becoming a legitimate starter in the NFL? NO. The guy has been marginal his entire career with the Bills, and we have played way too many marginal guys for too many years. We should let him walk and find someone who is at least DECENT, and has upside to be very good. Too many Buffalo Bills have low ceilings when it comes to talent. That culture needs to change. Say goodbye to the Duke. (And thanks for getting in that fight at the end of the first half against the Pats-brilliant move)
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Mcgee won't be returning kicks much longer, he is getting too old to do it, and thats one reason why McKelvin was brought in.
McKelvin won't be returning Kicks, Punts, and play CB
What has Fred Jackson done as a return man that would make you think that the Bills should make him a full time guy?
Trading Parrish, who is one of the top returners in the league, should not be shopped unless they are getting something big in return, not just some mid to late draft pick. He is too valuable on ST's to just give away because the bills signed TO for one year.
Have you watched Fred Jackson return punts and kickoffs? EVERY TIME he touches the ball he makes people miss and gets a sizable return. I suggest you open your eyes when we are receiving a punt or kickoff. He definitely can make things happen on a regular basis. We should be able to get a third for Roscoe.
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Rolle has been terrible the past few years. He was good earlier in his career with the Titans, but has been playing all on reputation the past few. Not a good tackler either. Our five top corners will be better than him this year.
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Wasn't it reported they were interested in LeCharles Bentley?
Can LeCharles Bentley even walk let alone run and play football anymore? His name is still very cool though.
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Sadly, when it comes to our beloved Bills, doing something this stupid is a distinct possibility.
If Jason Peters is traded, the odds of getting someone in his class to replace him is next to impossible. There is virtually no chance of this given how good he is, as well as where and how the Bills draft. Jason Peters is a member of this team because the Bills are lucky. Sure, he was brought in as a UDFA, but he was also at one point cut. Sorry, it was pure luck.
A smart team would rip up his old contract and pay him what he deserves. If it takes 10 million or a little more per year, that's what they should do. The Bills, with Trent, TO, Evans and Lynch have the potential to be a potent, exciting offense. A coach and front office with any sort of brain would be looking at ways to strengthen a line which is already questionable, instead of getting rid of its strongest component.
When opponents don't fear the run and sacks pile up, people will certainly be blaming Trent instead of the cheap fools who caused this.
Bill, you have so bought the kool aid on Jason Peters. He is an above average OT, and nothing more. Yet he has a terrible attitude and doesn't play with any type of mean streak. You really think he should be the highest or near the highest paid O lineman in the league. Please give it a rest and rethink your position. In the long run the Bills will be much better off trading his big fat ass. Do you really think we would lose much having Langston Walker, Chambers, or Bell play there? I don't. One player will not make or break this team, trust me on that.
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One thing is certain...Peters had a drop off from 07-08...I imagine that drop off was directly related to the Holdout...The Bills CANNOT go through another Hold Out from Peters in 09...This is some VERY dangerous territory because We are talking about the LT Position...But enough is enough...Peters Trade value is pretty much sky high...And it's not going to get any higher if He continues to underachieve in 09...
I'm reluctantly in favor of Trading Peters...Chances are the Bills get a 1st and something for one of the Premier LT's in the NFL (at least if You ask Peters' Agent He is...)...Unfortunately, chances are also good The Bills see a drop off at the LT Position this coming Season...But at this point I don't see how they are going to bridge a $3 million per Year gap...Especially considering the fact that The Bills don't seem willing to pay ANY Player top cash at their Position...At least with a couple extra Picks in Rounds 1-3 The Bills will be able to fill a couple more holes...And IF the Bills get lucky and grab the right Kid, they could very well fill the LT Need in this Draft...
My gut is telling Me Peters and The Bills are never going to see eye to eye again...If there is a Team willing to give up a couple Premium Draft Picks for Him I think it's time to cut all losses and move on...No more distractions at the LT Position please...
I agree. I will keep saying this until the cows come home, as I have been saying since last year. The guy is just not that good. Why do so many of you on this board think he is GREAT? He is not great. Does it make everyone feel better about the Bills that we can say we have a top player at a position? Even though we all know it is not true. I say we trade him for Philly's higher first round pick and their second if possible. If they will not give up a two take their first and third and maybe a fifth. Because lets face it, noone is giving up two first round picks for Peters. That kind of trade is just not done anylonger in the NFL. He is a headache, not a gamechanger. It is time to say goodbye to Jason.
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Eagles won't trade their two first round picks.
Bills will not trade Jason Peters.
Bills just signed TO and is not interested in rebuilding the team, at least not this year.
Jason Peters will not hold out because he already tried last year and it blew up in his face.
Clayton is smoking something good and I want some of that.
This discussion is a waste of time.
Peters WILL hold out. Do you really think he is going to show up for offseason conditioning without a new contract? NO WAY!!! He wants a huge contract. The dude is all about the money. He could care less that he held out all offseason and messed up our entire O line. The Bills will make what they think is a fair offer to Peters. If Peters' demands are ridiculous and it looks like there is no middle ground. I believe we will certainly try and trade him for the best deal we can before the draft. That makes the most sense.
For you people on here who think Peters is comparable to Anthony Munoz and Tony Boselli in their primes, please tell me what I am missing. To me Jason Peters plays lazy and uninterested a lot of the time with poor focus causing him to false start quite a bit. Sure when motivated he can manhandle people, but his first step back on pass protection is not fast, as shown by how many guys went around him for sacks last season.
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We could have 5 first rounders. You're not going to find a LT as good as Peters in this draft.
The only options for teams in our division against stopping our passing game is to blitz the hell out of Edwards before he can throw the ball. Having major holes at both LT and LG would not be wise.
You are retarded. Jason Peters is not close to being the best left tackle that ever walked the earth, so control yourself. If we could get two first round picks for him, that would be a tremendous deal. He may be wanting some unbelievable contract that is not realistic for the Bills to give him. The guy is a headcase, plain and simple. I am sure we could find someone in the first round to replace him, and get another stud as well. We would be sitting pretty with 3 first round picks.
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Bodden is pretty talented, so it's a good signing.
Bodden is nothing, and Springs is old, very injury prone and slow. I will take our receivers against their secondary every day if Trent can figure everything out. If we can get a downfield tight end threat in the draft, we will be set.
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Everytime it is even rumored that someone might be released, or becomes a free agent or rumored to be on the trade block, within seconds people are making posts for them to come to Buffalo (Housh, Holt, Haynesworth, etc). First off, this organization isn't going to pay for big names, second off most of these players don't want to come to Buffalo. The newest one isn't even funny-T.O. to the Bills, that is the dumbest post I have seen on here yet. Hasn't Lynch been enough distraction? We have a very young QB who he would crush. Please, most of these posts are somewhat entertaining when you have nothing else to do, but the T.O. one is retarded.
You're the RETARD buddy!!! Why would a team that has not been to the playoffs in ten years, and has had one of the worst passing games in the league for this entire decade not want to bring in a guy who is still a top 10 receiver in this league, and is the number 2 all time touchdown reception leader? It makes all the sense in the world to bring TO to Buffalo. Our team needs a shakeup. We have been going thru the motions for years. Did you watch our divisional games this year? We were absolutely pathetic. The team is rudderless. Professional sports is about having at least some stars. We have none. The biggest stars on the Bills our us the FANS. Are you excited by any of our offseason moves in the past 5 years? I didn't think so. To win in the NFL you have to think big.. Our team doesn't think much, and when they do, they think SMALL. That won't cut it in today's NFL. TO is a great player. He is worth a shot. This is not a team that is great, that needs a little tinkering. There is NOTHING here to upset. We are a terrible team, as shown by our pitiful finish of 2-8 last year. We have made no big free agent signings. Something has to be done. Does any team bring in more free agents and sign less of them than us? I think not.
Posts like yours are just negative. Why don't you tell us something constructive about how we can improve our team instead of ripping on people who want us to bring in a future HALL of FAMER?
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The "he is a disruption" issue is too large to be dismissed. He is arguably the worst locker room guy of his generation, especially out of all the good players. There is no doubt the guy is a fine receiver; although, he has lost a step. But he tears teams apart from the inside -- he has been on three teams and did it to all three of them. Add all the caveats you want to a contract -- he doesn't care. He does what he wants even when it means dire consequences.
One of the problems with our team is that there is no disruptions and distractions. By that I mean everything is way too comfortable on this Bills team. Nonne stands out and calls people out when needed. I don't see the burning desire to win from anyone on the Bills. Our championship teams had guys like Reed, Thurman and Talley who were not exactly team guys. They were very cranky at times and did not look to be buds with their teammates. They made things "uncomfortable" which did not lead to complacency. TO is a winner. He always wants to win. Have any of you seen him on the sidelines when the team is playing lousy? He gets pissed!! A lot more vinegar is what this team needs. I want TO!!
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Do you ever have anything useful or even remotely intuitive to say? All I ever hear from your posts is negative garbage. I don't know much about Oher, but the fact that he is even mentioned as a first rounder in the top half of the draft by some is enough for me not to rip him a new one. Did you watch all his games over the past 3 or 4 years to make such an assessment? Unless you have watched most of his games, go back in your cave dude. Because you are the only person I have heard say only negative things about him. Did he sleep with your wife or something?