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  1. Yes, excellent post but for two things...as the Big Cat said there's no link and also that JP Losman comment. I wish JP nothing but the best.

    "wish nothing but the best"? The guy was a HORRIBLE QB simple as that. I say "Good Riddance" to JP. All that matters is wins and losses in this league, and for that matter in any sport. This isn't pee wee sports or the special olympics. No room for sentamentality with JP Losman. It wasn't like the guy was brilliant for a while and had us on the brink of greatness. He could not play a lick.

  2. I got NFL Network.....you guys aren't missing out on much. As far as the Sports Networks go....NHL and MLB are really good. I'd have to give the edge to NHL.

    I think the NFL Network is tremendous. Over 4th of July weekend. They had on America's game showing an hour long show on each Super Bowl champion. Just Tremendous. How about the top 10 shows? Greatest Comebacks- Bills over Oilers number one baby. Top 10 gunslingers-Jimbo number 6.

     

    For any big football fan, the NFL network is a must. As for the MLB network, I think the sport should be gotten rid of period. NHL network is pretty strong as well.

  3. How about 0-4.. He'll be gone then and an assitant will take over for the year. It's Ralph's mantra. This team is a train wreck.

    You are the MOST negative person on this board. Who pissed in your cereal since you were two? Do you hate the Bills that much or were you just gang raped by a bunch of Patriot fans as a child? My god, fans of all are division rivals think more of us than you do. You are a real DOWNER!!!!

  4. The Bills aren't better because DJ and the coaching staff are still around. When a HC goes 2-8 down the stretch and is rewarded with keeping his job, something's wrong. While I fully expect Edwards to be better, it remains to be seen how a retread former QB coach will game plan to maximize his strengths. That, and an offensive line which is a mix and match of guys playing out of position. That's not a recipe for a playoff appearance.

     

    If anything, Buffalo is stronger at the skill positions but still severely lacking on the DL and OL. It's almost as if they've followed the TD doctrine of getting good skill players and not pursuing good OL in the draft. That is, until this season. I think Bills fans who followed the team during TD know that having great skill players does not make up for being weak on the OL and DL.

    Dude, you seem to have some knowledge of football, but your bitterness towards the coaching staff is way over the top. We drafted the TOP TWO guards in this years draft. We let go of one of the most overrated players in football, who did not want to play for us. Good O lines are not solely based on pure talent. The best O lines are a bunch of grinders who wear you down, and play physical, tough and hard on every down. (2007 Giants) Peters at his best did not do this on every play, and Dockery NEVER played hard. Preston and Fowler played soft AND had no talent. I think you will see a whole different attitude with our O line from day one of preseason. An attitude of toughness set by the O line can do wonders for a teams psyche. Just watch and wait. Maybe you will even smile at the new attitude that we will see this year. GO BILLS!!

  5. Very few people recall the 2nd greatest regular season comeback in NFL history. From 26 points behind to win:

    Buffalo 37, Indianapolis 35 : Sept. 21, 1997 at Buffalo

     

    I was so excited that day when Todd Collins brought us back after being down so much.

     

    We need to petition the NFL channel or ESPN Classic to reair that game. It was awesome!

    That was an awesome game. I remember watching on the Sunday Ticket in my house in Atlanta and running out onto my front yard with my buddies screaming like we had just won the Super Bowl. My ex wife was going to have our first child a week later.

     

    My daughter is now close to 12, I have two boys right behind her, have been divorced for over a year, but still LOVE the Bills. The more things change the more they stay the same. Memories from games like that are reasons that we all keep watching and loving the Bills my friends. Here's to this year being the year WE TURN IT AROUND!!!

  6. Jarius Byrd was picked at the top of the second round, since when is that considered a later round?

     

    I dont get the pick of Jarius Byrd if the plan all along was to move Whitner to free safety as we have been led to believe...why would you use a high second round pick on a CB that you plan on converting to FS when you already plan on moving your high salaried SS to FS, makes no sense....I understand depth but you dont draft for depth in the high second round especially when there were numerous other players on the board that could help the Bills this year

     

    Jarius Byrd doesnt have a chance to start as long as Whitner is with the Bills and playing FS

    HOPEFULLY, Jarius Byrd is a much better player than Donte Whitner has been for us, and this whole discussion will be moot. Because I think Whitner has a whole lot to prove before the Bills extend him beyond his rookie contract.

  7. Lynch is a thug

     

    Fred is a better playmaker than Lynch-

     

    sports analysts know no more than you do - they just have a platform to spout their nonsense

    You are stupid. Marshawn is a tough football player, who will have a tremendous year with above average blocking. I love him on the Bills, and you should too. Oh, and by the way this is football in 2009. Every team has some thugs. That is the nature of the sport, and the type of people and mentality the game attracts. The guy has made some mistakes. But a guy with his kind of talent will get more chances to succeed as he should.

  8. I'd have to go back and look at film but I don't remember Whitner being in coverage on Tight Ends very often. As far as "playing small", the guy played at least half of last season with one arm virtually dislocated from the shoulder socket. I'm gonna go ahead and forgive him for that.

     

    As far as his athletic ability and football instincts go: I'm quite sure there would be a whole bunch of teams with much better defenses than ours who would love to have Donte Whitner and would actually put him in a position to succeed, instead of using him to cover weaknesses in the Front Seven - which the BILLS have been doing for 3 seasons now.

     

    But go ahead and keep regurgitating the standard talk radio garbage. We both know what you know. If Troy Polamalu played in Buffalo everyone would be whining that he's always out of position and needs to cut his hair.

    Dude, you proved my point. He is always going to be playing banged up, because he is too small. Please start your own Donte Whitner fan club

  9. When have you ever seen them stand next to each other?

     

    The arguments against Whitner are laughable and at this point more of the "if we repeat it often enough, eventually it'll be true" mentality. The BILLS have ton of problems on the defensive side of the football and have for years. Whitner isn't one of them and hasn't been.

    Yea Whitner is just a stud, I forgot. My point is he is small, and plays small. Watch him try and cover any tight end who is over six feet tall. Sure Whitner doesn't suck, but he sure doesn't have the athletic ability or the football instincts that you would expect from a first round pick, let alone a high first round pick.

     

    Whitner hasn't been a big problem, but he sure hasn't been the solution.

  10. Saying Whitner is too small to play safety is flat wrong. Your 2nd point may be true. I agree his production needs to increase with regards to pass coverage, knock downs and interceptions. We'll see in 2009 if that improves with the return of Schobel and the addition of Maybin.

    I don't think Chad Johnson thinks Donte Whitner is too small.....

     

    Here's a comparison of some elite safety's around the league per NFL.com:

    Donte Whitner - 5'10" - 208

    Ed Reed - 5'11" - 200

    Troy Polamalu - 5'10" - 207

    Adrian Wilson - 6'3" - 230

    Kerry Rhodes - 6'3" - 220

    Bob Sanders - 5'8" - 206

     

    Wilson and Rhodes are huge, but the rest are right on par with Donte.

    The hit on Ochosinco was sweet. But I want to see a whole lot more of that. Looking at Whitner compared to Troy P. and Ed Reed, he just looks a lot shorter. But that is just my observation.

  11. Four reasons to trade Whitner otherwised known as Coy Wire.

     

    1.) We don't need "leaders" guaranteeing the playoffs, and then in the season finale after we don't make the playoffs getting flattened by a career 3rd down running back. He got ran over like a waitress in the way of Rosie Odonnel and a Pizza Hut Buffet.

     

    2.) Boy George could put up better stats and make more plays than Wire......I mean Whitner.

     

    3.) He is 6th round talent that we feel obligated to start because we wasted a 1st rounder on.

     

    4.) He gets tasered outside of nightclubs far to often.

    Everyone can B word on this board on how we should not trade Whitner because we do not have anyone more talented than him at his position on the roster. And a lot of you say he is one of the few leaders on defense. But leaders are made and respected by what they do on the field. And Donte Whitner has definitely not lead with his PLAY on the field!! (And I do not think that getting run over on one play is grounds to trade someone.)

     

    Two big problems with Whitner. 1) He is just too physically small to play Safety in the NFL. Consequently, he will get run over at times, and get injured a bunch.

    2) He does not have a lot of talent for whatever reason. Not much of a burst, and his instincts in the passing game are marginal at best. Plays a lot more like a 6th rounder talent wise, than a 1st rounder. And I have watched every game he has played in.

    One of the reasons that we have not been a top flight team as of late is because we have a lot of Donte Whitners starting-guys with minimal talent. (At least we have gotten rid of the many marginal O lineman we have had for years) Oh, and Jason Peters had some talent, but played like he was marginal, because he had no drive.

     

    I am really curious to see what Jarious Byrd brings to the table with his game. Some guys just have the instincts to find the football and some guys don't.

  12. No. Just....just....just....purge thoughts like that from your head.

     

    Lynch is the-tip-of-the-iceberg at this point in his career. As I've said on a number of posts, it's going to come down to the interior of the offensive line this year. Let's hope like hell they run-block better than the LAST iteration. But if they do, Lynch is going to go nuts this year.

     

    That's half the argument. The other half - just as nebulous - relates to Dominic Rhodes. Big name? Yep? Good reputation? Yep. So why do I have this awful deja vu feeling as though I'm watching the second coming of Anthony Thomas? Great name, great pedigree, great locker room presence. Oh, God, he was awful. Feet of concrete. Had all the cutback moves of a glacier in January. He himself was the second coming of Olandis Gary....and wasn't THAT a notable stint in a Bills uniform?

     

    This is a long way of warning you NOT to get too hot-and-bothered about Dominic Rhodes. There's a reason people get insurance policies. And why they cancel them. Rhodes is here because Lynch is going to sit a few games. Lynch will be back early in the season, and Rhodes will be cut to make room for someone promising coming in off the practice squad.

    Sure the A train was a moving statue. His best years were at Michigan from 1997-2000. However, you are way off base about Rhodes. He is a SOLID NFL player, simple as that. He is not Adrian Peterson, but the guy knows how to play the game, and will make the occasional big play. Did you watch his winning touchdown on the flare pass from Payton last year against the Steelers? The guy ran a perfect route. Teams that win have players up and down their rosters like Dominic Rhodes for depth and the occasional spot start. So saying that he will be cut when Lynch comes back is just ignorant.

  13. Why do we really hate Vick? Enlighten us.

    Steamroller, aren't you the guy who was so anti-marijuana in the thread circulating around not too long ago? If not I apologize. But I believe you were. So I am thinking you probably worked for the Bush administration in some capacity given your social views.

  14. So is committing murder and trying to cover up a murder not as bad as fighting dogs? It's human life we are talking about here. Vick is treated like the worst criminal in the NFL.

     

    Vick paid a price and its time to let him play again.

    I agree. Mike Tyson was convicted of allegedly raping a woman. He served his time (I believe 3-4 years). When he was released from prison he was allowed to fight again. Vick went to prison and has paid a high price. He will be a free man. I see no reason why the NFL should ban him from playing. I am sure he realizes what he did was wrong. The hatred that some have for him is just astonishing. Young people make mistakes-IN ALL WALKS OF LIFE. All you self rightous judgmental people need to put this to rest, and come to grips with why you really hate Vick.

  15. Exactly. You have to take all of these "reports" coming out right now with a grain of salt. According to many, Ellis Lanskter has been the most impressive rookie at our camp. Raise your hand if you think that he's going to be making the most noise of the group in a couple months.

    With the amount of injuries our DB's seem to suffer every year, Ellis Lankster could very well be seeing a lot of playing time, at least in nickel packages at some point in the season. From the reports from OTA's, etc. it sounds like the guy has at least some instincts for playing the position. And that is a good thing. I would rather hear this than, the guy looks lost out there.

  16. Left Buffalo in '86 for better work options.

     

    Living in Atlanta since.

     

    I think huge response to the original querry shows the passion for city - love it or hate it.

     

    Being away all these years may be clouding my memory, but for me, the winters in Buffalo aren't nearly as dreadful as summers in Atlanta. Aghhhhh. You can't stand outside for two minutes without sweat rolling off your back.

     

    I have such great memories of summers in Buffalo. It's when people came out from hibernation and made the most of the 4-5 months (say, mid May through mid October) ideal temps.

     

    As far as snow goes, I have fond memories of the first snowfalls of the year. Plenty of great recollection of brisk, clear, still evenings in December with several inches of snow in the neighborhood roofs, and a classic Rockwell-like vision of christmas lights reflecting off the snow in the darkness. The only sound was the crunching of snow under my boots.

     

    Maybe it all comes down to who's an optimist and who's a pessimist. The weather was not a factor for me. Those glorious summers were the payoff for the months of cold wind and snow blowing off the lake.

     

    The snow always made it seem more like Christmas to me. In reality, it was only the period from around mid-January - mid March when it started to get old. But, there was always the spring thaw and subsequent summer months only weeks away.

     

    It's not even technically summer yet, and I've already had it with the heat here in Atlanta. High 90's all week. And it ain't a "dry heat". It is fking miserable. Except for some activity at the neighborhood pool and the occasional walker, there is hardly any sign of life around the neighborhood throughout the summer. It's like a ghost town. In Buffalo, you could hear the boisterous screams of children playing, all day long from late June through Labor Day.

     

    Sadly, it's Buffalo's backward thinking power brokers who keep Buffalo in the dark ages. It's easy to blame politicians, but let's face it - they're elected officials. Any proposed endeavor or project that could be a boost to the future of Buffalo is quickly squashed by political infighting and the lack of anyone to stand up and make a friggin decision. The degree of apprehension is astounding. And of course, the taxation issue doesn't attract or retain businesses (translation -jobs).

     

    Would I move back to Buffalo? We've talked about it for years. I could see it happening. Unless you're in Atlanta society or philanthropy, there is not much of a feeling of community here. The most interaction Atlantans have with each other is when they're giving the finger to another motorist during the work commute.

     

    Buffalo is a friendly place. The knock that "there's nothing to do" is absurd. Obviously, if you're into surfing it's not a great place, but I swear, I could come up with list of recreational activities and attractions located within 1-2 hour drive that would beat that of almost any other American city.

     

    I have this fantasy that one day the state and local politicians will realize that their only hope is to reduce property taxes and eliminate the state income tax. Ex-patriots like myself would be flocking back. New jobs would be created at a pace not seen since the industrial revolution. So much potential. I believe one day the area will thrive again. I just don't know that it will be in my lifetime.

    Dude, totally agree. The Atlanta summer heat is just miserable. The air is stagnant, absolutely no breeze and mid 90's by noontime. And NOONE is outside in this mess. And by midsummer, the pools are TOO HOT to swim in from the neverending heat. I love the cold winters, and there is almost no COLD days in Atl.

     

    The best thing the South has to offer over Buffalo is the WOMEN. Nothing against anyone who has a Buffalo woman in their life. (I am sure there are SOME attractive ones) But on the whole in my opinion Buffalo has some of the ugliest women collectively that I have ever seen. The gene pool for beauty is just not there. Anyone want to flame away they can. But I have to go jump in my pool because I am too hot.

  17. The weather reverses to become a big plus in the late spring, the summer, and the early fall. This is not merely subjective opinion but meterological fact.

     

    Just as Alaska is called the land of the midnight sun simply because it is further north and gets more sunlight around June 21, So to with Buffalo as there is more raw sunlight here than in many Sunbelt cities approaching, during and after the Summer Solstice (for about 4-5 months of the year Buffalo is the sunniest city in the NE,

     

    The real kicker though is that the huge Lake effect snows that come in the early winter (until the lake freezes over) is caused by the land and the water being able to evaporate as much. In the summer this temperature differential breaks up lighter cloud cover and not only do we get more sun but more of it gets through.

     

    While Sunbelt climes like Fla, DC, NO and ATL are sweltering with the humidity and the temperature both striving for triple digits, it is a very rare day it hits 90 here, and often there ie air conditioning from the lake.

     

    Having grown up in Chicago, the complaints about Buffalo weather mostly amuse me. The wind comes sweeping in off the planes to Chicago and in November the high temperature dropped below freesing and one would not see a temp above 32 for months. In January, here usually was a streak of a bout a week or so where the high temperature was zero (note this is the high for the day) and temperature was always in negative numbers for almost a week,

     

    Buffalo gets dumped on by snow, but the added moisture also warms the temperature and single digits in Buffalo are rare.

     

    The winter here is not pleasant. It generally seems to start early and crawls along to go late. However, I would trade the harsh weather of the Windy City (though actually it got that name from a Carl Sandburg poem about the local politicians) for Buffalo weather almost any day (accept 2 or 3 Lake Effect snow days.

    Totally agree about the heat being brutal in the South. I live in Atlanta and it was 98 degrees yesterday afternoon and was still in the mid 80's around midnight with plenty of humidity. The air was just stifling like you were walking in a blast furnace. It should stay that hot for the next few days. It is not always THAT HOT, but there are many days like that well into September EVERY year. (I remember two summers ago when the temp guage in my car said 106 when I was driving on the highway-and my son had to start training camp for pee wee football in that heat!!)

     

    That being said I went to middle school and high school in Buffalo from 76-83, than went to college in Michigan and than moved to Atl. in 87, so I have been away for a long time. My mother has stayed in Buffalo however. This past Feb. I took my three kids up to Buf. for a visit and just had a blast. The people were very friendly, and the charm and quaintness that the area still had was very cool. It still feels like a large small town. I just got a sense of pride in the community from everyone. It made me very proud to tell my kids this is where I grew up.

     

    I doubt I would move back up there because I have a successful business in Atl. But I think that Buffalo has a lot of positives to it if you can get a good paying job there. And I will always consider it MY HOMETOWN!!! And to be quite honest, living in the heat is very overrated. I miss the cold of the winter.

  18. So how does Michael Vick get 1 year in prison for killing dogs, and Donte Stallworth gets 1 month in prison for killing a human being?

    Because the guy who he killed walked in front of Stallworth's car. It wasn't like Donte ran a light, or drove up on the curb and creamed the guy. I believe there was some very strong contributory negligence on the victim. Nonetheless, it is a sad situation when anyone is killed like that.

  19. Correct on both. I was at that game.

     

    Sunday, November 12, 1995

    Week 11: Atlanta Falcons @ Buffalo Bills

     

    Anthony Phillips intercepted Kelly's pass breaking a 172 interception-free streak (to those who think that must be close to a NFL, not even close - Jeff George had a 279 interception-free streak end in previous year and that isn't even the record) near goal line and went to near midfield for 43 yards before Jim Kelly tracked him down, tackled him snapping his leg and then stepped on the leg as it went sideways.

     

    Kurt 'the enforcer' Schultz intercepted Jeff George (yep, same George) in the end zone on the final play to seal the victory.

     

    By the way attendance at the game was only 62,690

    I believe that was the end of Anthony Phillips career if I am not mistaken. He was really never able to come back completely from such a devastating injury. And I think the guy was a pretty good player. Thanks for the nice recap of that game. It was actually quite an exciting game, as most of our games used to be.

  20. It's true but Lori's clarified it.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    :lol:

     

    You do know that Kelly was recruited by Paterno to be a linebacker at Penn State, right? Kelly was a QB with a linebackers body. Kelly laid a hit on a guy who intercepted one of his passes, I forget who, and unintentionally broke his leg.

    Anthony Phillips-DB for the Falcons. That was a tremendous game at the Ralph in the 95 season I believe. Kurt Schultz intercepted Jeff George in the end zone to seal the victory.

  21. Nice touch!

    lol

    Seriously, how old are you? Have you graduated high school yet? I sincerely hope not because if you are older than 18, than you are either totally inmature or have an IQ of about 52. Either way, why don't you go post on some Cartoon network or nickelodean message board where you can also exult the greatness of Hannah Montana or the new Transformer movie? You embarrass yourself and everyone who is a Bills fan with your nonsense.

  22. Football is a physically brutal game. Once you suffer a serious leg injury, be it knee, ankle, achilles, etc. it is very difficult to come back and play at the same level as before. Not impossible but difficult. (See Sam Cowart, Takeo Spikes, etc.) At his absolute best Crowell was a good but certainly not great player. And his tackling skills were abysmal. I don't think the Bills are all broken up that Angelo Crowell is no longer a member of their team.

     

    Does anyone really think he is going to do much the rest of his NFL career?

  23. WGR..

     

    I believe them like I believe a kid in a candy store with sticky fingers saying he didn't eat the candy.

     

    Ralph isn't going to invest in any new deals unless it PAYS him Millions

    Why should Ralph invest in something that is not going to give him a good return? Would you invest in something that would not make you a good return on your investment? I sure hope not genius. Do you think Jerry Jones built his palacial stadium to lose money? HELL NO!!! But any word about a potential new stadium for the Bills in the Buffalo area is great news even if it may be a pipe dream.

  24. Gee, why did our offensive line suck so many of the years that he was here? Peters was tops on everyone's project list as a future LT that year, he could have signed with anyone after the draft, he signed with us because our lack of talent on the roster spelled o-p-p-o-r-t-u-n-i-t-y. And no coach turns a player into a pro bowler all on his own, the player himself must be driven and willing to put in the time and effort to become one of the best. Peters did that and, with McNally's help, it worked. That should have been the end of a great story for the Bills but it wasn't. Instead, the Eagles will be the beneficiary.

     

    But I don't expect the bile and bluster hereabouts to ever be objective with regard to Peters. Not yet anyway. There is just too much man-love around here for Brandon to consider that maybe he handled the Peters situation poorly.

    Jason Peters is terrible. Do any of you actually watch the O-line play during a game? Why do you all think he is so good? He consistently gets beat around the outside. He does NOT have a quick first step into his drop. It is as simple as that. The proof that he sucks is in the games. Don't listen to what all the "talking heads" say. WATCH THE GAMES!! He played TERRIBLE last year. Langston Walker is much more sound fundamentally. And that will make up for whatever he lacks athletically compared to Peters.

     

    Why should Brandon have given in to a guy who skipped out on ALL offseason work, and played with no heart after that? If this were any other team you would be saying that the player was a bum, and the front office should cut him.

  25. There were a myraid of reasons why Elam got the sack on JP. It wasn't Peters' fault.

    That is just flat out wrong. When you are the LT and someone is coming from your outside left shoulder and taking a wide rush as Elam did, the LT (who was not blocking anyone on the inside) has to step out and at least knock the little safety off his stride enough to give JP a little time to make a play.

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