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Is that just passing TD's or total TD's? The first two o/u's are pretty insulting to Josh Allen and the Bills offense. If he can't throw at least in the high 3,000's for yards and in the high 20's for passing TD's we have a big problem, unless our running game is circa late 1970's Houston Oilers. And that seems doubtful in today's NFL.

Funny you talk about sitting in the Oranges too. I came from modest means. So that was all we could afford I guess. I remember always wondering what it would be like to sit down in the Golds or Reds. So I had a buddy whose parents were a bit more well off then my family. And his parents had seasons tickets for the Sabres. And they were in the Upper Golds kind of to the side of one of the goals. So my buddy takes me to a couple of games. First pro hockey games. I am like 11 or 12 years old in probably 77-78 season. The first game I think was against the Cleveland Barons. (Remember them. They probably lasted 2 or 3 seasons) Sabres scored 3 goals in under a minute or so to set a team record at the time. Not sure if it still stands. The second game I went to was against Vancouver. Danny Gare scores 11 seconds into the game. At the time the fastest goal scored by a Sabre at the start of a game. Don't know if it still stands. Probably since we don't score much at all in this era. I was a huge Sabre fan as a kid. I remember Paul Weiland and Rick Jeanerette on International Cable Channel 10. And Ted Darling and Pat Hannigan (I think that was his name) on Channel 2 I believe. And then Sam Anson did the games on the radio, and was excellent. Fond memories of a lifetime ago. As a middle aged adult, I am not a pro basketball fan. I like hockey some. But don't watch the Sabres. They are terrible. Rooted for the Blues in last years playoffs. I just watched a show on the 94 Rangers winning the Cup and all their long suffering fans on NHL Network. But I love the Bills. Always have since the 1976 season. Have not missed a game on TV since the meaningless season finale of the 94 season. Hopefully this is our year to catch the magic like the 94 Rangers and take it straight to the Super Bowl. Josh Allen will need to be very good. But I believe he has it in him. Go Bills.

Come on Dean. Why the dislike for Brent Musberger?

I do remember Randy Smith. He was excellent also. They also had Ernie Digregorio and Garfield Heard. Used to go to the games at the Aud as a kid sitting way up in the nosebleed Oranges. McAdoo was as pure a shooter as they came in the history of the NBA. And loved his side burns too. Is he still alive by chance? McAdoo and the Iceman George Gervin from the Spurs. Two amazing offensive players in any era. I was actually not at that game against Denver. But did watch it from my apartment at the time in Atlanta, going nuts!! And thanks for the Kudos about Bryce. He was a hell of a player as well. I still wear his jersey occasionally, probably a couple times a season. Bought it in 1996.

There you go. Almost brings me chills. I think they should have Brent do Monday Nite Football with Louis Riddick and Kurt Warner as analysts. He is still excellent broadcasting in his unique way. I hated Joe Tessitore. My God I found him annoying. Tries to make every game the Super Bowl. Just give basic play by play and let the game speak for itself.

Because its football Stampeder. And we all love football. Sure we all want fans at games. That is a huge part of the Sport. But the games themselves are the most important thing. And its an event. Its what we do in the fall, is watch NFL Football on Sundays. So football with no fans is better then no football at all. Did you watch the Nascar race at Darlington yesterday on Fox? It was weird with no fans. Especially after Kevin Harvick won and there was NOONE there cheering and celebrating but the Fox reporter interviewing him with a six foot microphone. But it was a professional NASCAR race that was great to watch again. It was a sign that things will get back to normal at some point. That we have just not fallen off into the abyss of life sucking forever.

I think Brent Musberger is a living legend in the Sports Broadcasting Industry. An all time great, with humor, knowledge, and enthusiasm.

She was a babe back in the day. Loved watching her. Very knowledgeable and personable as well. She was only 70. Read she died of a blood disorder. RIP. That is sad. Hope Brent Musberger keeps rolling. Was there anyone better then him calling a game?

That was an amazing play and overall comeback in that game. Bennett was an elite player. Talley was pretty dam good also. Maybe not as good an athlete. But a very good football player and great team leader. I love your user name. I remember Bob MacAdoo as a kid. Wow could he shoot. He was tremendous. Did he lead the league in scoring 3 years in a row in the mid 70's? How good a jump shot did he have!!

Thanks for those numbers on Bennett and Talley. Two great LB's. Two great leaders. Bennett should most definitely be on the wall. He made so many big plays. And lets not forget the blocked FG return for the TD against Denver in 1990 that started us on our way to the SUPER BOWL. Lets hope Edmunds and Millano can play near those two's level. Millano is not quite that level of an athlete. But lets hope Edmunds gets there some day.

Kelly was great. But there were many other factors. If Reed had played in today's era, he would have had ridiculous numbers catching the ball. Moulds had some real good years. 98 and 02 come to mind off the top of my head. And you know who was throwing him the ball those seasons? Flutie and Bledsoe. Neither sucked at throwing the football. Bledsoe was a statue and was already in decline. But he put up some good numbers in 2002 his first year with the Bills. There is good very good and great. Moulds was a good to very good and occasionally great receiver. Andre was always great. I may have grown up pre internet. But I remember football and the Bills since the mid 70's pretty dam well.

Had to chime in on this one. At least it is not about Josh Allen. Eric Moulds was a beast of a WR. He was big fast and athletic. Loved watching him play. And I was at his big playoff game after the 1998 season down in Miami. That all being said. A lot of you must have forgotten or were too young, or not alive yet to have seen the GREAT Andre Reed play. He was an amazing football player. Was fast strong and tough as nails!! He also had great hands. Much better hands then Eric Moulds hands. Andre Reed was the consummate pro. When he played he was compared to Jerry Rice. Not at that level. (but noone will ever be) But he was right beneath him. And as good as ANYONE else in his era. And lets not forget how the game has changed in the last 20-25 years from what it was when Andre was in his prime. Teams did not throw like they do today. QB's were beaten down like rag dolls. And WR's were endangered species coming across the middle. Do you guys remember the beating Andre took in the Super Bowl against the Giants? Wow, he got his ass kicked and kept on getting up. Guys like Ronnie Lott Steve Atwater and Brian Dawkins could really hurt you. Safety's were not the size of Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer. Every team had an enforcer in the middle. That was football. And corners could just grab you up and down the field. No 5 yard area to make contact. It was all over the field. Playing WR in Andre Reed's era was so much more difficult. He was an amazing player. Probably still underrated. Moulds was an excellent WR. But lets keep it in perspective when you are comparing him to Andre. That's going to an entire different place.

Way too many threads discussions and analysis about Josh Allen. He is a young up and coming QB. Hopefully he will blossom this year into a star. (he has that potential) If he does not show at least strong improvement throughout the season, then we may need to look at possible replacements for him. Hopefully he will bring his A game most weeks. And we will have a great season with him leading the way. The rest is all irrelevant.

Thats a great response BJ. You know your O lineman. I agree the O lineman that Hull played with were much better then the garbage around Wood. Point well taken. However, Hull is an all time great. Wood nowhere near the level of a player Hull was. He may not be in the HOF, but he was top 20 all time at center. Kelly was the emotional leader of our offense. But Kent Hull was the brains of the outfit. Good perspective as well. I guess if the guys around Eric Wood were as good as him, we would have had a good to very good line throughout his career. I will agree that he was a good leader on the team. Just was never a huge Eric Wood fan. Would have liked him to have been a little meaner, a little edgier.

Interesting perspective. Judging by the reaction to my post, I must be in the minority on Eric Wood. As a low first round pick coming out, I guess I had higher expectations for what he accomplished. The guy didn't suck. Just thought he should have been more dominant is all. Sorry you didn't like where I went with the thread. Just not real interested in a bunch of 20 something NFL players training with mommy and daddy. But if it makes Tre a better football player this season, more power to him.

I didn't say he wasn't a warrior and a tough guy. I think he was decent to good at best. Would not put him at very good overall IMHO. He was popular with the media and the fans because he seemed to be a good guy. But I think a lot of fans tend to gravitate towards players who are supposedly "good guys". I don't put that into the equation when assessing football players. I think a certain edginess is needed when playing football at a high level. (The Jerry Hughes persona, so to speak)

Those guys were absolutely horrible. Jones, Benjamin, Thompson McKenzie and Foster. Ridiculously bad. Did anyone on our team make one contested catch that entire season? How did Zay Jones and Kelvin Benjamin turn out so badly? One was a stud at FSU and caught the winning TD pass in the Nat Championship game against Auburn, and the other had the most catches in a D1 career. They come to Buffalo and can not catch anything, Who was our receiving coach in 2018? Was he let go after the season?

It sure never helped his play. Eric Wood was a decent player, but never dominant. As a first round pick I thought he would be better. Nick Mangold was certainly better. And Wood never came close to playing at Kent Hull's level. (who was an amazing player)

Our secondary has been amazing since McDermott and his coaches took over. I would like to see a little more aggressiveness as far as blitzing is concerned. Dropping 7 guys to the first down marker on third or fourth and long burned us against the Texans in OT. Who ever started that defense anyways? It used to be on a 3rd and long everyone was bringing the house and then some. Our D line is going to be real tough this year. Better against the run. Oliver will have more experience. Harry Phillips is coming back. And Jordan Phillips was lousy against the run. Epenesa will be very solid. And I look for Vernon Butler and Quinton Jefferson to be very stout in the middle as well. Bringing in AJ Klein will help also. And better D line play against the run should allow Edmunds and Millano to make more plays. Our defense will continue to do well. Whether we are top 5 or top 10 won't matter. We will be very solid. The season will hinge on our offense finding its way. Defense is important, but not nearly as important in today's game as a dominating offense.

Duke Williams is just a guy. He has mediocre athletic ability at best to play WR in the NFL. That is not hating on him. That is fact. He is not quick, fast or explosive. And he has mediocre hands. He has good size and is tough. He seemed to show good work ethic and effort last year. Why would anyone want the guy to fail? He plays for our favorite team for god's sake!! If you have watch and know NFL Football, Duke Williams just doesn't stand out. Maybe he raises his game several notches this summer. (We all would want that) But again he comes off as just a guy. So not sure where your overwhelming love for the guy is coming from. Rooting for the underdog is great. But his story doesn't stand out as anything over the top special.

That 4th qtr comeback was tremendous. I was 25 living in Atlanta. Just graduated law school. My roommate and I used to go to a sports bar called Dirty Al's to watch the Bills on the old satelite dishes. The place was rocking every weekend w all the College and Pro games on. But that game was on local TV in Atlanta that Sunday. I remember we were going nuts watching in our apartment. Criqui was a great play by play guy. And NBC's production of an NFL broadcast was great also. And I loved the old artificial turf we used to have. Looked great on TV. The next Sunday we beat the Raiders on the blocked punt on the old Sunday nite NFL games on TNT. And we were off to the races. If we had Christie that year, we would have been Super Bowl Champions. Norwood was garbage. (Look how he missed the extra point after the interception return) I was at the Super Bowl in Tampa. What a great time until the last play!! Pretty heartbreaking. We are now 30 years later. The world is so different. But the NFL and football in general still rocks!! But dam life flies by!!

Thanks for posting that. Interesting. A Williams seems to be the forgotten man. Maybe this kid has a lot of game. As for Karlos. If he shows he can still play AND he has grown up some, I would give him a shot. Guys are young when they come in the league. A lot of them were not taught how to act like young adults or had good role models. I don't think he did anything horrible. He seemed like a fun guy to be around. Carefree personality. If he can still run, he should and will get a shot with someone. Talent is talent.

Is that line that you mention good enuf is the big question. I think the middle of our line is fine. I think all three will improve some. And I like our Guards more then most. Not sure about our tackles. A lot of you like Dawkins, and want to extend, extend, extend. I think he has been average at best. And would wait to see how he performs this year. If he plays lights out, give him a big extension before next March when he will be an UFA. If he doesn't want to sign, either tag him or let him walk. I like Ford's toughness. But his feet need to get quicker. If not, Williams or Nseke have a chance to start at RT. Between all the guys we have competing on O Line, other then Morse, everything should be wide open. And the best 4 should surround him. Those 5 should then be an above avg O line. Johnson is a good coach.

Thanks Gugny. I was a big Paup fan back in the day. He was the NFL Defensive player of the year in 1995. I believe he had at least 15 sacks. And he had another great year in 1996. He was just dominant rushing off the edge in our 3-4 defense. Just loved the way he played the game. Hurt his groin real bad in 1997 and left after that season for Jacksonville's money. I still wear his Jersey occasionally for big games. Had that since the start of the 96 season. Fun to reminisce. We all have our favorite Bills. I was always a big Terrence McGhee fan. I liked Willis McGhahee a lot also. Had two of his jerseys. One home and one away. Had a solid career. If only he had not had that horrible knee injury against the Buckeyes in the Nat Championship game. He could have been one of the best RB's ever. But that's football.

And if Josh Allen had not been knocked out of the first Pats game with a questionable head shot, we likely would have been 4-0 after week 4.