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We are way too low at 10. I put us ahead of the Pats Tampa Philly Dallas for sure. And we are right there with the Seahawks. I am putting us 5th behind KC Baltimore SF and NO. And we will give those teams all they can handle. The league will figure out Lamar Jackson and make him throw a whole lot more. The Bills stuffed the Ravens offense pretty well. Teams will follow that blueprint. They will be good, but not as good as this past season. We will be very good. The team should have the mindset that we are going to win the division and be playing in the Super Bowl next February. No more of this crap offense we have had for what seems like forever. Everyone is exited about Josh Allen. Well we haven't scored much since he took over. This is the year!! Time we show some swag. Let the NFL know we have arrived. Josh Norman will give us a little edge too. It is going to be exciting. Nothing less than 11-5 will do.

We have a very talented roster. Have brought in lots of solid to good to very good players thru trades free agency and the draft. And that includes the O line. (I think they will be solid across the board regardless of who starts at the positions in question) But the key is going to be Josh Allen. If he is mediocre like he has mostly been so far in his career (with some real brite spots, and some real poor performances) we will struggle to make the playoffs and not be a contender. If he plays good to very good all season, we should contend for the Super Bowl.

Wow, why all the negativity on Kyle Orton? He led a tremendous last second drive to a big victory at the time and you have to bash him?! He was money on every throw on that drive except for the one behind Sammy. The offensive line around him was lousy. #68 Richardson had no business being on an NFL field. Was Kyle Orton a stud QB? No he wasn't. But he played pretty well for a lot of that 2014 season. And was awesome on that last drive. So give him some props where they are due and leave it at that. Dam life is tough enuf. You have to find joy in something. Watching that drive certainly put a smile on my face and a bounce in my step, at least for the moment.

Those were some tough very good football players. All had very good careers. I don't know if Antoine Winfield's time was forgotten. But that was one guy we made a big mistake letting go after his initial contract. Boo on Tom Donahoe for that!!

Agreed that the Cowboys were not well coached. And Jason Garrett was weak. But its also on the QB. He is the leader of the offense and the offense did not get it done in many of their losses. Look at the losses against Buffalo Jets Philly (away) Saints and Pats. Their offense was lousy. Not a lot better against Minnesota or Chicago either. A lot of that is on the QB. You can drive your narrative however you want to spin it. I did not say the guy sucks. My point is that way too much hype is made about an above avg QB (at best) who wilts under pressure. And I believe the contract offer is on the high end of reasonable anyways. And when your QB is balking at signing it, it shows that he is not about the team. Because the more he wants, the less there is available to pay other positions. And when you are paying Zeke Cooper and Prescott, you are going to come up short in other places. Jerry Jones wants star power as much as wins. That is the Cowboy way. A lot of flash, and not much more.

Kirby (btw a very good and underrated DB for the Bills back in the 90's) Go look at who the Cowboys beat big last season and then get back to me on their point differential.. They did very well against the trash of the NFL last year. The good teams, not so much. Dak is overrated!

Interesting idea the Boys signing Cam. That would be exciting. Not a huge Cam fan. But he does have way more swag and passion then Prescott. I think a lot of what has been missing from the Cowboys has been the passion. And I blame that on Jason Garrett and Dak Prescott. Need some fire to motivate and inspire. Maybe Mike McCarthy will do that. Will be very interesting to see what he brings to the Cowboys. At least he won't be stuffed in that green jacket that he always seemed to wear in GB. LOL

How much better are the Cowboys with Dak Prescott at QB then they are with Andy Dalton? Prescott doesn't sign the deal, pull it off the table, and trade him, and let Dalton be your starter this year. He plays well, sign him for 2-3 more years. He plays lousy, (which he never has) draft or sign someone else next year. Thats a big contract for a good but certainly not great QB. (Prescott) Good defenses will stymie him all day long.

Dak is a P***y. Plays with no passion. He is soft. Not a leader. Cowboys should have let him walk. How many playoff games has he won? He is the ESPN and Dallas Cowboys hype machine. And nothing more. That pass he threw on 4th and goal into the ground against us was pathetic.

I like both overs. What are the odds on both of those? I think he may go over on rushing yards as well. Would like to see it. But he needs to be smart when he runs, and tuck the ball away!! Simms is a big Josh Allen fan. Didn't he get arrested driving high w his pregnant wife in the car years ago? Oh to be young dumb and full of *****. lol My son got pretty good odds on Josh Allen winning the NFL MVP I seem to recall. I will have to find out from him what the line was for that.

Is that just passing TD's or total TD's? The first two o/u's are pretty insulting to Josh Allen and the Bills offense. If he can't throw at least in the high 3,000's for yards and in the high 20's for passing TD's we have a big problem, unless our running game is circa late 1970's Houston Oilers. And that seems doubtful in today's NFL.

Funny you talk about sitting in the Oranges too. I came from modest means. So that was all we could afford I guess. I remember always wondering what it would be like to sit down in the Golds or Reds. So I had a buddy whose parents were a bit more well off then my family. And his parents had seasons tickets for the Sabres. And they were in the Upper Golds kind of to the side of one of the goals. So my buddy takes me to a couple of games. First pro hockey games. I am like 11 or 12 years old in probably 77-78 season. The first game I think was against the Cleveland Barons. (Remember them. They probably lasted 2 or 3 seasons) Sabres scored 3 goals in under a minute or so to set a team record at the time. Not sure if it still stands. The second game I went to was against Vancouver. Danny Gare scores 11 seconds into the game. At the time the fastest goal scored by a Sabre at the start of a game. Don't know if it still stands. Probably since we don't score much at all in this era. I was a huge Sabre fan as a kid. I remember Paul Weiland and Rick Jeanerette on International Cable Channel 10. And Ted Darling and Pat Hannigan (I think that was his name) on Channel 2 I believe. And then Sam Anson did the games on the radio, and was excellent. Fond memories of a lifetime ago. As a middle aged adult, I am not a pro basketball fan. I like hockey some. But don't watch the Sabres. They are terrible. Rooted for the Blues in last years playoffs. I just watched a show on the 94 Rangers winning the Cup and all their long suffering fans on NHL Network. But I love the Bills. Always have since the 1976 season. Have not missed a game on TV since the meaningless season finale of the 94 season. Hopefully this is our year to catch the magic like the 94 Rangers and take it straight to the Super Bowl. Josh Allen will need to be very good. But I believe he has it in him. Go Bills.

Come on Dean. Why the dislike for Brent Musberger?

I do remember Randy Smith. He was excellent also. They also had Ernie Digregorio and Garfield Heard. Used to go to the games at the Aud as a kid sitting way up in the nosebleed Oranges. McAdoo was as pure a shooter as they came in the history of the NBA. And loved his side burns too. Is he still alive by chance? McAdoo and the Iceman George Gervin from the Spurs. Two amazing offensive players in any era. I was actually not at that game against Denver. But did watch it from my apartment at the time in Atlanta, going nuts!! And thanks for the Kudos about Bryce. He was a hell of a player as well. I still wear his jersey occasionally, probably a couple times a season. Bought it in 1996.

There you go. Almost brings me chills. I think they should have Brent do Monday Nite Football with Louis Riddick and Kurt Warner as analysts. He is still excellent broadcasting in his unique way. I hated Joe Tessitore. My God I found him annoying. Tries to make every game the Super Bowl. Just give basic play by play and let the game speak for itself.

Because its football Stampeder. And we all love football. Sure we all want fans at games. That is a huge part of the Sport. But the games themselves are the most important thing. And its an event. Its what we do in the fall, is watch NFL Football on Sundays. So football with no fans is better then no football at all. Did you watch the Nascar race at Darlington yesterday on Fox? It was weird with no fans. Especially after Kevin Harvick won and there was NOONE there cheering and celebrating but the Fox reporter interviewing him with a six foot microphone. But it was a professional NASCAR race that was great to watch again. It was a sign that things will get back to normal at some point. That we have just not fallen off into the abyss of life sucking forever.

I think Brent Musberger is a living legend in the Sports Broadcasting Industry. An all time great, with humor, knowledge, and enthusiasm.

She was a babe back in the day. Loved watching her. Very knowledgeable and personable as well. She was only 70. Read she died of a blood disorder. RIP. That is sad. Hope Brent Musberger keeps rolling. Was there anyone better then him calling a game?

That was an amazing play and overall comeback in that game. Bennett was an elite player. Talley was pretty dam good also. Maybe not as good an athlete. But a very good football player and great team leader. I love your user name. I remember Bob MacAdoo as a kid. Wow could he shoot. He was tremendous. Did he lead the league in scoring 3 years in a row in the mid 70's? How good a jump shot did he have!!

Thanks for those numbers on Bennett and Talley. Two great LB's. Two great leaders. Bennett should most definitely be on the wall. He made so many big plays. And lets not forget the blocked FG return for the TD against Denver in 1990 that started us on our way to the SUPER BOWL. Lets hope Edmunds and Millano can play near those two's level. Millano is not quite that level of an athlete. But lets hope Edmunds gets there some day.

Kelly was great. But there were many other factors. If Reed had played in today's era, he would have had ridiculous numbers catching the ball. Moulds had some real good years. 98 and 02 come to mind off the top of my head. And you know who was throwing him the ball those seasons? Flutie and Bledsoe. Neither sucked at throwing the football. Bledsoe was a statue and was already in decline. But he put up some good numbers in 2002 his first year with the Bills. There is good very good and great. Moulds was a good to very good and occasionally great receiver. Andre was always great. I may have grown up pre internet. But I remember football and the Bills since the mid 70's pretty dam well.

Had to chime in on this one. At least it is not about Josh Allen. Eric Moulds was a beast of a WR. He was big fast and athletic. Loved watching him play. And I was at his big playoff game after the 1998 season down in Miami. That all being said. A lot of you must have forgotten or were too young, or not alive yet to have seen the GREAT Andre Reed play. He was an amazing football player. Was fast strong and tough as nails!! He also had great hands. Much better hands then Eric Moulds hands. Andre Reed was the consummate pro. When he played he was compared to Jerry Rice. Not at that level. (but noone will ever be) But he was right beneath him. And as good as ANYONE else in his era. And lets not forget how the game has changed in the last 20-25 years from what it was when Andre was in his prime. Teams did not throw like they do today. QB's were beaten down like rag dolls. And WR's were endangered species coming across the middle. Do you guys remember the beating Andre took in the Super Bowl against the Giants? Wow, he got his ass kicked and kept on getting up. Guys like Ronnie Lott Steve Atwater and Brian Dawkins could really hurt you. Safety's were not the size of Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer. Every team had an enforcer in the middle. That was football. And corners could just grab you up and down the field. No 5 yard area to make contact. It was all over the field. Playing WR in Andre Reed's era was so much more difficult. He was an amazing player. Probably still underrated. Moulds was an excellent WR. But lets keep it in perspective when you are comparing him to Andre. That's going to an entire different place.

Way too many threads discussions and analysis about Josh Allen. He is a young up and coming QB. Hopefully he will blossom this year into a star. (he has that potential) If he does not show at least strong improvement throughout the season, then we may need to look at possible replacements for him. Hopefully he will bring his A game most weeks. And we will have a great season with him leading the way. The rest is all irrelevant.

Thats a great response BJ. You know your O lineman. I agree the O lineman that Hull played with were much better then the garbage around Wood. Point well taken. However, Hull is an all time great. Wood nowhere near the level of a player Hull was. He may not be in the HOF, but he was top 20 all time at center. Kelly was the emotional leader of our offense. But Kent Hull was the brains of the outfit. Good perspective as well. I guess if the guys around Eric Wood were as good as him, we would have had a good to very good line throughout his career. I will agree that he was a good leader on the team. Just was never a huge Eric Wood fan. Would have liked him to have been a little meaner, a little edgier.

Interesting perspective. Judging by the reaction to my post, I must be in the minority on Eric Wood. As a low first round pick coming out, I guess I had higher expectations for what he accomplished. The guy didn't suck. Just thought he should have been more dominant is all. Sorry you didn't like where I went with the thread. Just not real interested in a bunch of 20 something NFL players training with mommy and daddy. But if it makes Tre a better football player this season, more power to him.