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Daboll's Giants did not exactly look prepared last nite did they? But this is a ridiculous loss tonite. The team is a mess. With Rodgers out we should have won by 3 TD's. Does McDermott even talk to any of the players during the game? The FG on 4th and 2 was really weak, and sent a bad message. Even at the end of regulation, its 3rd and 10 w no TO's left, 10 seconds to play and we are running a play? if Josh gets sacked, game over. Kick the FG on 3rd down.. My god. We are just a rudderless ship right now.

Herbert is never great. He was good at times, like he always is. But he comes up short in the clutch time and again. Agree that Chargers defense is just plain bad.

If the O line play is at least at a decent to good level (doesn't have to be very good to great) and the coaching is solid throughout the season, we will be strongly in the mix come January. The best Bills team of all time seems a bit much before we have even played a game yet. There were some real good teams in the 60's and the Super Bowl teams had some really really good players across the board. So lets hold off on those kinds of statements until we get through the grind of a 17 game regular season. I think we are all excited as Bills fans with the potential of the team. But there is excitement with a lot of fan bases right now.

I love the Terrance McGee reference. One of my favorite all time Bills. Could have played in any era. I like Benford's game too. Play's with confidence and just looks comfortable at his craft. Lets hope Bernard does the same. I have no idea what to expect out of him. Just hope he has bulked up some from last year. And has more quickness and better instincts then Dodson, who looked like a poor man's version of London Fletcher at best.

The Bills may not have a bunch of A list Superstars on offense after Allen and Diggs. But they have a lot of talent nonetheless. Sherfield and Harty are both better then what we have had at the back of the WR depth chart. And Shakir should not be written off yet. We have three TE's that can play. Morris is an NFL player. And Gabe Davis can still be a good to very good NFL WR. Our RB's all can play too. If our O line is above average, we should dominate most weeks on offense. As for our defense, in today's NFL there are not many defensive stars like in yesteryear. It is an offensive game, and the rule changes have taken the physical intimidation and domination out of most defenses, and defensive players. So in today's game you are just not going to have the number of stud defenders that the Bills had in decades past. There are just not that many out there. But our secondary is as solid as any in the league if our guys stay healthy. And our D line looked much improved overall in the preseason. If we get solid O line play, and good coaching on defense with whatever scheme we run, we should be strongly in the mix for the Super Bowl this year.

Kupp has a hamstring issue, after missing the second half of last year w a bad ankle injury that required surgery. He will miss some time this year. And will likely gradually decline because he is 30 and playing on some rough turf in LA. He will be good but not dominant anymore.

I agree about Brown. He just has not shown a consistency to his game, that a starting NFL O lineman should have. The game does not look easy for him. If he falters early, hopefully the Bills are not afraid to sit his butt down, and let Ifedi play.

Thanks for John Fina history. 10 years with the Bills and then finished with the Cardinals. Thats a dam solid career playing at least 10 years in the NFL. He can be proud of that. My favorite O lineman was Kent Hull. A dam good Center. And a real good guy. Mitch Morse kind of reminds me of him with his leadership. Not quite the level of player as Hull was. But a good player nonetheless.

Thanks for some O line updates. That's right Daryl Williams had one good year at RT. There have not been many in the last two decades.

Is McGovern health enough to start at LG? And if not, is it going to be Edwards with Torrance at RG? Bates is the backup center. Can anyone tell me how he has looked this preseason? Can Anderson play Center as well? I agree 10 O lineman seems like a lot. But Anderson looked good against Chicago. Is Ifedi better then Spencer Brown? If so, get him in at starting RT.

What was his years with the Bills? Was he on the last Super Bowl team and then through the 90's? I don't remember that well. Know he certainly wasn't as good as Will Wolford. Who was an excellent O lineman/O Tackle. But I think overall better then Dion Dawkins.

That's a great tutorial on things Logic. However, that does not change the fact that we really do not want Quessenberry on the field. He is not a good football player. He is not even a mediocre NFL lineman. He is pretty bad. Tough guy, playing on the bad ankle last year. But just not a very good player. Can anyone who knows a lot about offensive line play from a technical standpoint explain why there are so few good offensive tackles in today's NFL? It seems there were a lot more decent to good ones back in the 70's, 80's, 90's and earlier 2000's. I never loved John Fina. Thought he was decent but not great. But by today's standards the guy was a really good player.

Keith Ellison would be the biggest LB on the roster if he was still playing today. LOL As for Dodson. Just cut his ass. Guy is as slow as a dead horse. I can not imagine he would start ahead of my boy Baylen Spector. I really believe at a lot of positions the Bills have decided long ago who is going to start and make the roster. They have "their" guys. And the rest are just camp fodder. Doesn't matter how they play in training camp or the preseason. Exhibit # 1 is Isiah Hudgins. And where is their boy Kumerow these days? I am surprised the Bills don't have him in the top 4 WR's as much as they loved him on the roster.

Their O line is terrible. Hasn't been good since Kevin Mawae and Nick Mangold retired. Dwayne Brown is like 57 playing LT. He was overrated when he was young. And now just plain sucks. And so does the fat boy Kelvin Beachum.

Jim can coach. Go Blue!! John on the other hand is a whiner and overrated. Jack was the patriarch who coached I believe at Western Kentucky years ago (Maybe Western Michigan) An old school football family for sure.

Makes a lot of sense. We have a lot of good players. They may not feel that the coaching staff is good enough relative to the roster we have. So they are tuning the coaching staff out. There is a big difference between taking a bad team, and making it competitive like the Lions did last year. And making a good team a championship team. McDermott has not done that yet. And the guys who know him best, his players, may not see that greatness in him leading them to the promised land. We will see soon enough as the season unfolds. If Josh Allen plays well, we will have a chance. If Josh Allen plays spectacular week in and week out especially late in the season and into the playoffs we will be playing for the Lombardi.

That's good to know. Maybe he is a keeper who will keep getting better. I will try and watch what he does when I watch the Steelers replay and next weeks game against the Bears.

Can Van Demark play LT? Because seriously Dawkins is just flat out awful at this point. His get off is nonexistent. Brown may have some upside, its really hard to tell because he always seems nicked up. And is a penalty machine. But Dawkins gets beat on a regular basis. And is also a penalty machine. We have a serious problem at OT with the season only 3 weeks away. Is John Fina still vertical and have a little bend in his 54 year old body? The guy was better then anyone who has played tackle for us in the McBeane era. Taylor Lewan is just a psychotic version of Spencer Brown. His best football was at my school Michigan. Can we move Bates to RT?

We have played one preseason game in 2023 so far. So maybe wait a little while before getting too excited about our draft class. I thought our second and third string WR's looked real good. Patmon Shavers Johnson and Ateman were making plays all over the field. As did our backup RB's. Thought the run blocking was good. OT play is always questionable. (biggest potential weakness on the team) D Line looked really dominant. Real good to see. We have a good team. The Colts don't.

That was something watching Campbell do the up downs on the first show. I think he got to about 37 when his wrist was about to give out. He is a character. And a solid coach. If they can find some defense, the Lions will be in the mix this year in the NFC. Should be an interesting opening nite game in KC.

But if she is HOT, its all good. LOL

Show has gone on way too long. Nothing riveting there. Watching Aaron Rodgers and Zach Wilson throwing footballs in shorts. Meh. Saleh wants to be one of the guys. Not a lot of intensity in today's NFL. Show me some fights between O line and D line. Maybe some Oklahoma drills. It was fun watching the Jets get whupped in the second half of the HOF game by the Browns though. We will own them come September 11th.

That's stupid. He certainly was before injuring his knee last year. Maybe not Bruce Smith good. But still very good.

Good analysis SC. You are usually very sharp with your football opinions and discussion. Edmunds had one good season. He is athletic but not intuitive. The game is just not second nature for him. And he certainly was not worth to us what the Bears were willing to pay him. Football is still won in the trenches. With a much improved D Line, one of the guys competing to be the starting MLB, should be able to develop into a solid player. LB's just don't dominate today's game. So a guy like Edmunds is only worth so much money. Interesting to see what he does in Chicago. I don't like the Bills drafting Bernard and then Williams in the 3rd round. Not sure what they are watching when these guys don't seem to be able to compete for playing time. (I personally hope Baylen Spector is our starter. I think he has the most upside and understands the game. Kind of like Benford in the secondary. Although I am an Elam fan as well.) I think the O line has to be much better then last year. We won't go far unless they play reasonably well. RT scares me. The reports on Spencer Brown do not sound encouraging. And Dawkins needs to up his game too. Hopefully Shell can compete for some PT at tackle. Kincaid will be a force. And I like all 3 of our RB's. They all are solid. And when Josh is on, there is noone better in the NFL at QB. I think we will be plenty prepared and fired up to lay a beatdown on the Jets come opening night. A big win will set the tempo for the season, and send a message to the league that we are still a team to be taken very seriously. And the team to beat in the AFC East.

Zeke was very good. But not ridiculous. And Jacobs was excellent last year. We definitely need a running game. And I think w Cook Harris and Murray we are solid. Combined w Josh's bigtime runs, we should be fine.