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Is Landry still in the league? I don't know if he can run under 5.0 anymore. And don't we still owe him a head shot after he ended Aaron Williams' career what seems like years ago?

Good response Newcam. I was being somewhat fascetious. I agree this is a big offseason for the Bills. And I also agree that things are not as rosy as they have been the past couple offseasons. That being said, I believe that the Cincinnati game was a big cold slap in the face for the entire organization. Beane likes to act like the coolest guy in the room. That's his MO. But I think he will make some solid moves building our roster for 2023. We need to be much stronger on the O line. And need more weapons for Josh Allen. I am fine with letting Edmonds walk. He is a good player. But is not a gamechanger or overly nasty mean and instinctive. I believe he is replaceable. I think Poyer is a better football player. But injuries have taken their toll like they do on most veterans at some point. I did like McDermott saying in one interview that we need to be nastier on defense. That makes me feel better knowing that he sees what needs improving on the defense. But in today's NFL, games are usually won with a whole bunch of offense. (look at the Super Bowl) So lets put our best resources there. I wasn't a Nascar fan until 2020. But now I watch every race. Full Swing is a good documentary series on the PGA. The second episode was about Brooks Koepka. He was just crumbling last year after dominating in 2017-2019. His mind is a mess. And he was just miserable on the course and at home. But his girlfriend/fiance is pretty hot. So he does have that going for him.

A little dramatic, don't you think Newcam?? Season doesn't start for 6 months. If Chuck Clark was that good, I don't think the Ravens would have just let him go for a 7th round pick. And that's fine if the AFC East is a dogfight. We have the best player in the division, if the not the entire league. Try and relax. Watch some Nascar for awhile. And there is also a good series on Netflix about the PGA Tour called Full Swing. I would recommend it.

I did not say it was all Edmunds fault. Obviously not the case. But I certainly would not pay him upwards of $15 million/year to be a decent player at best.

Chicago has lots of money. Edmunds can replace Roquan Smith. And make lots of money, and lose lots of games. The defense needs a fresh look. And some meanness in the middle. We did not win or play well on defense in crunch time in the playoffs. Time for some new blood to hopefully get us get over the top.

Davante Adams is a much better football player then Tremaine Edmunds. There has to be a Nick Bolton-Logan Wilson type player in the middle rounds that can come in and make plays on defense.

That game was quite a beat down by the Browns. I seem to recall a big Browns-Steelers playoff game in the early 2000's between Kelly Holcomb and Tommy Maddox where each guy threw for close to 400 yards. I think the Steelers won that game though. Browns have not had too many big wins in the modern era. I remember the loss in 1980 to the Raiders in the frigid cold of Memorial Stadium when Brian Sipe threw the last second pick by Mike Davis in the end zone. The field was like concrete. LOL

Can we resign Edmunds and trade him straight up to the Titans for Henry? They just released a couple decent LB's. Maybe knucklehead Vrabel can throw in a 3rd or 4th back to us as well?

Watson looked lousy when he came back late last season. He should be better next season. But still QB's seem to still go to die in Cleveland. Baker was nothing special with them. And he was the first pick that year. He was overdrafted. But playing with Hue Jackson and then Freddy Kitchens as your head coach is tough. And Stefanski hasn't done a whole lot better. I dare say that the height of Cleveland Browns football in the modern era was their win over the Bills in the 1989 wild card game. A game for the ages. Maybe they should have never left Memorial Stadium even when they came back to the NFL in 1999. LOL.

Lamar and Mark Andrews have a real good connection together. The 15 yard crossing route Andrews loves to run from right to left across the field to the sideline has worked wonders for them. But even with that, the Bills have owned Lamar in all 3 games they played against him. Even the one in Buffalo that we lost during the regular season.

The whole team did not show up. But the defense was manhandled on the first two drives. That set the tempo. Cinci had receivers wide open all over the field. And they ran the ball at will up the middle. You could tell right away we were not ready to compete against the Bengals. That game and to a lesser degree, the Miami game the week before (even though we won) was a total failure by the organization. They need to own it, and do WHATEVER it takes to be a better overall team in all facets next season. There is nothing we can not improve on from our play in the 2022 season. It is not so much our record. Because we will have a very difficult schedule. But more are we just nasty to play against. And can we impose our will on our opponents on offense defense and special teams whenever we need to? And lets not leave out coaching. It has to be much better against the best teams, especially come playoff time. If McDermott and crew can not show that this season. Time for a change after 2023.

That's a strong statement. Maybe true and maybe not. Tre looked stuck in mud late last year. Hopefully he can regain some his old form over the next 6 months. I think you want your best players always on the field. Assuming Poyer is not back, we have Hyde and then a mishmash left at the other safety position. If Benford is better then White at CB in 2023, then put Tre at safety if he has anything left and start Benford and Elam at boundary corner. And maybe Hamlin makes a great comeback and can be our 3rd safety. But we still need a replacement when Hyde is done. So we need another playmaker at safety either in free agency or the draft.

Lamar has had Mark Andrews. He is a beast that I would put in the top 5 TE's in the league.

Ravens stadium was filled bro long before Lamar ever set foot there. He is overrated. And he quit on his team. Last I heard he was still getting paid during the 2022 season, even if it wasn't the offer that you feel he should get. The Ravens don't really want him at this point. But they need to pump him up to get maximum value in a trade for him. He isn't leading any team to the promised land. He was a curiosity. And now has been figured out.

Good thoughts Alpha. You know your football. I did not know that Jerry Hughes had 9 sacks this past season. That's impressive for any team. But given how bad the Texans were record wise, that's even more impressive. Is he planning on playing another season with the Texans? Lets hope that the disaster that was the Bengals playoff game is the low point for this defense. And that changes to our defensive system are made. A more aggressive attacking defense is definitely needed. Don't need safeties lining up 20+ yards beyond the line of scrimmage on most plays, with corners 8-10 yards off WR's. Makes it too easy for the opposing offense. And the mindset is one of passivity. That can not be in professional football.

I agree that the Bills will have competition from the Jets and the Dolphins. And the Pats never seem to absolutely suck. But Derrick Carr comes up small in big games. I am not overly concerned. I do think Mike White has some upside, if he can stay healthy. But he is not a thick guy. Kind of reminds me of a Rob Johnson type build. And we know what happened to him. We need to bring our best next year. Hopefully the punch in the gut by the Bengals will wake the organization up a bit. Everyone needs to have that Stefan Diggs hunger and passion. Including the coaches and management. Just having Josh Allen is not enough to win championships. The Chiefs haven't won two Super Bowls just because of Patrick Mahomes. They have great coaching, an amazing TE. A great O line, and a lot of guys who play with a lot of passion. We need to find that. Lets go Buffalo.

There is nothing wrong with drafting defense. Every team wants and needs at least a decent defense. Our problem is a lot of the guys we are drafting or bringing in on defense are just not real good. Or we are not coaching them up. Or the system we are playing is not right for these players skill set. Epenesa and Basham have done next to nothing as 2nd round picks. Rousseau has been better, but certainly not dominating. Other then Von Miller, who is a real impact player on the D Line. Ed Oliver has not played like a top 10 pick. We had Hughes and Addison. They were pretty much done in 2021. Settle did nothing this year. DaQuan Jones was good for us. But certainly was not an absolute terror. Lawson and Phillips were solid, but not very good to great. At LB Milano is a stud. Edmonds was good this year. But still is not overly instinctual. And is not worth the money someone will pay him going forward. Who else have we brought in at LB? Bernard Dodsen Andre Smith Baylen Spector AJ Klein and Matekevich. Nothing overly special there. Although I think Spector may have some game, and Klein is a cagey veteran who plays smart. The strength of the D has been the secondary. But losing Hyde and Poyer being injured a bunch, and the Tre White knee injury certainly set the secondary and the D back. Hopefully the coaches will find a way to maximize the talent of Elam and Benford, and can get both on the field at the same time. For my money I would let Dane Jackson Jaquon Johnson and Dean Marlowe all walk. None of them should be playing in an NFL secondary. Overall, when you look at the defense, there is just not enough talent and athleticism. I think that falls on Beane. Combined with the scheme not matching up with the skills of the players on the roster. (One shout out goes to Taron Johnson. He gets the most out of his game every season and every game. But a guy his size should not be expected to make so many tackles.) The defense just seems like a big cluster. And once Von went down, teams figured us out. And guys were wide open all over the field in every game at the end of the season. A lot of work needs to be done to tighten things up on the defense. Lets hope Beane McDermott and staff are up to the challenge.

Carr is lousy. Terrible leader, and hasn't won anything. We went 14-4 last year. Why are we worried about the Jets? They need to be worried about us. We get the O line fixed and we will be in strong contention for the Super Bowl. Bringing in aging veteran QB's is usually not a recipe for success. Look at the Colts and the Broncos. Rodgers is a cancer. Sure he has put up great numbers in his career. But he has been to how many Super Bowls since becoming the starter in 2008? ONE!! I would bet that most of the Packers are ready for Jordan Love to take over.

He had one real nice game in the playoffs against a weak Vikings defense. And crashed down to earth the following weak in the Divisional playoff game against the Eagles. He could be real good going forward. But he could also crash and burn, and turn into Carson Wentz. You just never know with QB's. Who is better he or Derrick Carr is the big question. I am not sure I would want either of them as my starter. But I would lean towards Jones. More mobility. And any QB who is going to break down and cry in a press conference after a game, that's not who I want leading my guys into battle every week.

When healthy Poyer is a better football player then Edmunds and Oliver. And Tre White as well, if he looks next year like he did at the end of this season. Settle was lousy this year. And that was a big disappointment. I am a big Poyer fan. Sure he was not real good at the end of the year. But if he can get well. (Meniscus tear is not overly major in today's game) and will take a reasonable two year deal, (no guarantee) I would keep him and Taron Johnson, who makes a lot of tackles, and try and find replacements for the rest of the guys you mentioned.

We need a legitimate O line. That was our biggest weakness. Other then Morse, all those guys, starters and backups are replaceable. Including Dawkins. He is average at best. Foolish to think we were going to the Super Bowl with this line. If Beane can improve the line substantially and add a few more pieces here and there, there is no reason we can not be a Championship team.

I am not a sky is falling guy, like some on here. But your narrative isn't really telling the whole story either. Davis has been good but not great. Tyler Bass has been fine. But in today's game its not that hard to find a good kicker. Dane Jackson is small and should only be a depth guy. Rousseau has had some moments where he looks to have great potential. But also long stretches where he has not done much. Basham Epenesa Ford and Spencer Brown have all been below average. And Ed Oliver and Trey Edmunds have not dominated consistently commensurate to their draft position. I like Knox and Singletary was useful. But Moss was terrible. Shakir has big upside. And Hudgins should have had a big role this year. The combination of our drafting and coaching up players has not been nearly on the level of Kansas City. We have hung with them for the most part because of the skills of #17 and #14. And our secondary before they got injured. (But being stubborn and continuing to ride Levi Wallace for two years longer then we should have was an achilles heal as well) This is a huge offseason. We ended the year a very wounded animal. It remains to be seen if Beane and McDermott can fix things. The jury is out and time will tell.

Bradbury pulled his shirt. He got burned and got caught trying to make up for it. Is defensive holding only supposed to be called in the first half? The refs almost always call PI or holding when you grab the receivers jersey. Bradberry has always been overrated. He is nothing special and got caught moving inside too much against a pretty slow receiver in JSS. All he could do was hold. Tre White looked like that when he came back this season. Because it wasn't called early doesn't mean it shouldn't be called at crunch time.

Olson and Burkhardt did a good low key job. And the other top FOX team of Moose Johnston and Joe Davis is also good. I wish they all were like that. One guy I miss who I don't think is on anymore is Chris Spielman. The guy knows football so well. And has that dry sense of humor.

The only commercial worth a flip was the one w Ozzy and Paul Stanley. I am a big time rocker, and that was very cool. The halftime music show is a bit much (if you can even call that music) A 30 minute halftime is stupid. Imagine if the Super Bowl was just about the football game. Why would that be so bad? Its the championship of the football season. Should be a treat for all the fans who watched every Sunday year after year, crowning the best team. Why do non football fans need to watch the NFL football championship? Non baseball fans don't watch the World Series. Same with non hockey fans not watching the Stanley Cup. Does the World Cup have a live music act at halftime? (I am not sure because I don't watch soccer.) But I can not imagine big time soccer fans wanting to watch some Urban ***** pop singer in the middle of the biggest game of the year.