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More competition the better on the O line. I liked Bates a lot at the end of 2021 at LG. But he seems very so so last year at RG. What kind of money do you think Edwards is worth?

That's frikin hilarious!! Not his pass blocking grade though. Does he have more upside then Bates? And he and Ike can wrestle to see who is the Bills best Big 10 West O lineman. Iowa and Wisconsin love their O lineman.

Few and far between. Like the 5 penalty game against maybe the Falcons or Panthers in 2021? LOL And Dawkins got the 3 holding penalties in one game also. Is Jason Peters still upright? I hope to God you are correct that they draft a big time OT this year. I can not remember the last one we even had.. Maybe Cordy Glenn, when he was not injured. John Fina? Will Woolford and Howard Ballard?

Matt Ryan and Nick Foles. Not good.

We just resigned Quissenberry. Not happy w that. I pray we draft two studs on the O line in rounds 1 and 2. And get a tough LB in round 3 that McDermott can coach up to start in the middle.

I am really sickened by your post. Big mistake just committing to Spencer Brown. We can only hope they can coach the kid up. Because he has sucked. And is usually injured. I don't know what to say about Quissenberry. He plays like he is stuck in quicksand.

Thanks for the response. Changing the offense some to a more 2 TE look gets me excited about the potential, and maybe will open more up for Diggs Davis Shakir and the other WR's. (Sherfield is intriguing. I don't know much about him but he sure had some wheels in the TD against San Fran on the first play from scrimmage.)

Singletary does not have good hands catching passes. I think he was a liability there. I know Harris started at RB at Bama which says he has ability. And when I have watched him he has been pretty solid. I always want to be hopeful about the free agents we sign hoping they will be real good players for the Bills. Some are like Cole Beasley and John Brown, and some have not as much as we hoped like Mario Addison and Tyler Kroft, LOL

Thats a real nice summation of where things stand right now on offense Haldimand. What do you think of taking the TE Kincaid from Utah w our 1st round pick if he is still there. The guy was a big time playmaker at Utah. But is that really imperative given that we already probably underutilize Knox, who is pretty solid if not special? A lot of teams have two good TEs'. Why can't we? And can Quinton Morris be that guy? I agree about the O line needing reinforcements. Spencer Brown is definitely a weak link on the line. I am not sure he is even an NFL caliber player starter or reserve. And interesting about Bates. He didn't suck last year. Does he have a high enough ceiling to be a starter on a team thinking Super Bowl? Not sure. It does sound tempting going O line in the first two rounds. And having new starters at LG, RG, and RT. With Bates being the #1 IOL reserve. And then there is Ike Boetger. The guy plays tough and has somewhat of a mean streak. Can he be a solid starter at G if he can stay healthy? I have always like his toughness. And who replaces Morse when he hangs it up? He has been a leader and a good solid player over his tenure w the Bills. Will there be a drop off in his play at some point in the near future? Or will he play well enough this year that he gets another extension that keeps him playing into his mid 30's? He just is a tough dude. Reminds of some of the guys who played O line for the old Raiders teams of the 70's. With all the tape and casts on their hands and arms. LOL. That was old school football in the trenches of the highest degree...

Singletary has not been a difference maker for us. He has been solid at times. But not the reason we have been a top team. He has a low ceiling based on what he has shown. No reason to resign him for 3-4 million. Damion Harris has been solid and sometimes more then that. At least against us. He has a little more pop then Singletary. Sometimes you have to reshuffle the deck. Noone should be complaining about this move. At least the signing of Harris and Sherfield shows that Beane is at least awake. The general consensus on this message board since the debacle two months ago against the Bengals in the playoffs is that Beane and McDermott have not built a good enough team around Josh Allen. There is a sense of frustration, desperation for some (yes you Iron Maiden Bills-love the guys user name, but where his head is in the thread he started last nite is way too far gone!) and some angst for most of us. We are all huge Bills and football fans. We think management has not stepped up like they should have. And the trust of Beane's judgment seems at an all time low. Understandable to a degree. But looking at players like Damion Harris, he is a good addition to any team. Good football players (which the guy is) only make your team better. We just need to find some good football players who are big and play on the lines. That is where we have fallen short.

I was not a big fan of Moss. He had no wiggle, not much vision and was slow. Great traits for a 3rd round RB. LOL Singletary was better. But nothing overly special. We just signed Damien Harris. I like that signing. But we still need some O lineman to block for him!!

Underutilized?? Do you think he had Thurman Thomas, Lasean McCoy or even Fred Jackson ability?!! The guy was a decent RB at times. Had stone hands out of the backfield. But he was nothing that can not be replaced. And did not have anything that would remotely be considered a unique skill set. Time for a bigger bruising back who can carry would be tacklers

At least we were smart enough not to resign him. The kid looked early on like he might be a real NFL caliber type player. Unfortunately it did not materialize in Buffalo. The NFL is a tough place to make a living. A lot of Jacquan Johnson's out there. Good luck to him.

Well said Gunner. And that is why people who are scared of the Jets if Aaron Rodgers ends up there need to step off the ledge. In his 15 years as starting QB for the Packers, they made the Super Bowl one time in his third year after the 2010 season. And now in his twilight years there is no way he can carry a team. The Packers last year were a run first team. Everyone blames his WR's the past couple years. That's nonsense. He looked tentative as can be whenever he dropped back to pass. The best passing game the Packers had all last season was when Jordan Love came in the second half against Philly on Sunday nite. And he had the same receivers that Rodgers had. As for the Bills, Beane has not done a good enough job so far building a great roster around Josh Allen. It isn't terrible. But the O line has certainly been sub par. And other then Diggs, there are no weapons that scare opposing teams. The roster has been good enough to beat the decent to poor teams. But in crunch time in the playoffs it has not been good enough. And the coaching has not been good enough. Hopefully that will change this year. But I really question Beane and McDermott's ability to put a championship type roster together. Not saying it can't happen. I just have my concerns.

Thank you. It is a nice set up. I agree. Would like to see a couple more solid players brought in. But to be honest with Beane's track record the past few years w Free Agents and drafting, I really don't have a lot of confidence in his evaluation of talent. The brilliance of Josh Allen has been able to mask an overall somewhat mediocre roster. Especially on both lines. Beane has really missed w our big guys. Lets hope that turns around shortly.

Thank you. I appreciate that. My girlfriend suggested Fort Lauderdale two years ago to move to part time. (our kids are grown) We went down there to check out places and lucked into an apartment on the 42nd floor of a really cool high rise. Amazing balcony view looking east about 2 and a half miles from the ocean right next to the New River. Get to see boats going by our building all day long. And there are plenty of flights nonstop between Atlanta and Fort Lauderdale everyday on Delta. And pretty reasonably priced too. The Miami fans don't have much to say. Because they know we have pretty much owned them for the last many years. And seriously, how can you bash Josh Allen regardless of who you root for?! And there are a lot of transplanted Buffalo fans in S Florida. (the backup TE for the Dolphins Durham Smyth lives in my building. Met him in the elevator one day. One tall dude)

That's a bit strong Gunner, wouldn't you say. There are plenty of able bodied young guys floating around we can bring in to play gunner reasonably well I have to believe. Neal can't play defense and is making too much money to just play Special teams. We desperately need reinforcements on both lines, WR and LB. And another solid TE would be nice. (I would not mind drafting the kid Kincaid out of Utah if he is there at 27. But I am not sure the Bills are that progressive thinking w their offense to make a two TE look, a mainstay in their scheme.) So if we have to go bare bones on special teams for the sake of fortifying the lines especially, I am willing to make that trade off. The Bills management seems under the illusion that but for some tough circumstances last season, we were good enough to compete for the championship. I just don't buy that. And I hope I am wrong with my assumption.

I was ecstatic to have him back. I kind of look at him as this team's Kyle Williams. Both great leaders. Both hard workers. Both very good players. I split my time between Atlanta and Fort Lauderdale. The weather in S Florida is ridiculous. Sunny and warm almost every day. It was unseasonably cold on Christmas this year. Did not get over 50. But that was an anomoly. It was near 90 last Saturday. My business is in Georgia. So I do have to pay state taxes.

Not a big Marlowe fan. Very well said about Shaq Lawson. He does play hard. Is a leader type. And makes some plays at times. But definitely not a gamechanger. Can we find better is the question? I like Klein. He is a good backup spot starter to have on your defense. Again can we find at least 3 or 4 other LB's other MIlano who can play better for us then Klein? I like Jamison Crowder too. He can play. Give him a role and he will make plays when he is healthy. He and Josh just need to get some work together. Don't want Quessenberry. Wow he sucks. Even Van Roten is better then him.. We need better depth then a lot of these clowns. Its too bad about Jacquan Johnson. I thought early on he would turn into a better player. Interesting if the Bills are interested in bringing him back. We can not have both Marlowe and Johnson. No sir! Not sure about Singletary. Do the Bills even like him? Does he deserve another contract with the Bills? There are things I like about his game. And things not so much. We certainly need someone as the 3rd RB. What about Zeke Elliott? That would be a strong move if the price is reasonable.

Edmunds had a good season until the playoffs. He was much better this year. But I certainly am not buying that he is the top inside LB in the game. Fred Warner Nick Bolton Logan Wilson. I wish Edmunds the best of luck. And good for him getting that kind of contract. I am very happy we have Poyer back. He is a champion. Big time player. We are better off w Poyer then Edmunds if I had to choose one.

That's a great post New Era. Getting rid of Frazier is addition by subtraction. You got no sense of energy passion or urgency with Leslie Frazier on the sideline. He looked like he was at one long funeral all season long. Nothing positive coming from that. Need more guys playing like there hair is on fire. Lets Go. I expect a new hunger from everyone in the organization come next summer at Bills camp. The O line still needs work. But I expect there to be some improvements besides McGovern come next training camp and some more juice at WR.

Are you his agent? Yes he had a good season last year. But I don't see him getting better from there. (I think he has hit his ceiling) And he looked awful against Cincinnati in the playoffs. If he would have been paid by "any GM", why did he choose to play for one of the two or three worst franchises in the NFL right now? That's a pretty stupid decision then. Sure he is a physical freak. But O lineman are licking their chops looking at a 6'5 LB to knock around like a bowling pin. He is too long to be playing LB well in my opinion. Has no leverage at that length and not being overly stout. He was a solid player for us at times. But certainly not someone I am sad about leaving. But you can keep rooting for him on the frozen tundra of Soldier Field. It will be interesting to see how he does there. And how his replacement in Buffalo does as well. To be continued.....

Rodgers led the Packers to ONE super bowl appearance in 15 seasons as starting QB. The legend of Aaron Rodgers is just that, an Urban Legend. The Jets O line is trash. I can see Rodgers hobbling around by mid season looking as bad if not worse then he did with the Packers. I am not worried about him and the Jets. The division goes through Western New York until #17 decides to pack it in. I think this years team will have a new resolve when everything gets cranked up again. Losing Leslie Frazier is a nice plus as well. Can't imagine he got anyone on the defense fired up to kick ass and run through walls.

Do we draft a RT in the first 2 rounds? Are there any where we are drafting that can come right in and plug and play at a reasonably high level? Someone who knows the O lineman in this draft please let me know. RT is our weakness on offense.

What does JM being a d bag have anything to do with players trying to get all the money they can? Gruden wasn't any better before JM. The Raiders should have given Rich Basacia a chance as permanent head coach.